Government Employees have to be the dumbest

[seasoned vet]

....damn i forgot, i just thought about another one:
 
 
 
.....so one time we had this MAJOR issue where we needed to get certain items to the public. all of the public could apply but the elderley and handicapped were supposed to go straight to the top. we had an spreadsheet that was to be filled out daily with names to be sent up for delivery. we kept a paper copy and we also uploaded those names to an excel spreadsheet just in case we needed them.
 
.....this chick i worked with was given this task. it was also expected of her to upload these names to the spreadsheet. sure enough, 3 months later for some reason or another we needed the digital copy and she didnt have it. after a full day of her 'looking for it' we finally got ahold of her computer only to find out she only had 3 spreadsheet files saved.......2 of those we the same document just under a different name.
 
....why? what happened you ask? she didnt know how to use the 'save as' feature. she thought a little Telepathy and clicking save was going to just magically save each document uner a new name.
 
- so, we had 90+ days of spreadsheets reduced to 2. all because she didnt know that small little function.
 
 
 
....oh and before you ask. her position was dealing face to face with applicants every day.
 
 
 

 

[sevit86]

Originally Posted by SoVerSoTowel

Originally Posted by Grey

yet you're typing in a dark blue font against a black background

this

c'mon son im not a cat

 

[sevit86]

Originally Posted by SoVerSoTowel

Originally Posted by Grey

yet you're typing in a dark blue font against a black background

this

c'mon son im not a cat

 

[Sir San Diego]

Originally Posted by djaward


Why is it that the Majority of government employees are african american??

http://data.govloop.com/G...loyees-by-Race/tehm-z57r

 

[Sir San Diego]

Originally Posted by djaward


Why is it that the Majority of government employees are african american??

http://data.govloop.com/G...loyees-by-Race/tehm-z57r

 

[6dollaburger]

Originally Posted by seasoned vet

Originally Posted by 6dollaBURGER

Originally Posted by seasoned vet


- came in here just to say this.
 
....i work for DHS as well. i know a great deal about computers myself so i help our IT dept out when i can to help their workload on little things. its crazy how ill help someone with the absolute most juvenile thing on a computer and people act like i helped them circumvent a NSA firewall. i mean stupid stuff like teaching them the difference between 'save' and 'save as'.
 
- i remember one time this department was using a database full of high-res photos of the terrain of the local counties. the interface they were using allowed them to upload photos as well. do you know these dudes that have been doing this job for i know more than 5 years, didnt even know what a jpeg, bmp, of tiff file was? whomever they were getting the pics from for some reason this time the extension was left off and them dudes was lost.
.....after i got the pictures working again, they hit me with the "whew, thanks man. we've been here for 6 hours trying to figure it out"

 
 
 
 
.....um....yes, yes it does.
 
- they let the fact that its electronic get in the way of their will to learn about it. to not know and not need it...thats understandable. but to have an occupation where the use of a computer is a must and you dont even know the BASICS, and im talking computer %++# that they teach at senior centers? yeah THAT = STUPIDITY.
 
...i mean you have people coming in everyday to work 'winging it' on the computer. thats like being a driving delivery guy with no license and never having driven a car.......while not trying to get a license either.

Again, how do you know that every position requires that they have computer knowledge. To my earlier copy and pasted example, maybe they are client facing and deal with more interactions and completing signature transactions, and they only need to use the computer very infrequently - and use support sparingly - how is that incompetent to their job position? I'm sure I can come up with more examples, if you like.

....okay, first off, "to have an occupation where the use of a computer is a must......" is saying that IF you have a postition that requires you to use a computer. i never said all government positions do. calm down.
 
 
.....HOWEVER, i work for a division of DHS and i can tell you every single position within us requires the use of a computer. from clocking in and out to annual training. you cannot have a position with who i work for and not have to use a computer every single day for one reason or another.
...and yes (at least with who i work for), even in client facing, even with completing signature transactions and the like, you still need to know the BASICS due to the databases we use. matter of fact, when i really think on it, even in our job announcements on USAJobs they specifically state that you need to have BASIC computer skills and be profecient with programs like WORD, and EXCEL. everything else submitted for a government job it tested and checked on....why not computer skills as well? i mean you basically have people lying on an application to get a job of a major function of that job.
 
 
....you dont sound like youve ever had a government position and dont know too much about how it all works.
 
- but thats just who i work for. i dont know about other departments, and thats why i never said all government positions require it.
 

Wasn't really excited in the first place to "calm down." -- Aside from that:

I didn't word my response properly - When I said use a computer infrequently - I meant use anything past browsing an internet window or clicking send on Outlook. Now if you're saying that every position requires a certain amount of computer skill past that - I agree, those should be tested for. However, in the initial post of this thread, there is nothing alluding to the idea that there was any indication that it was a mandatory part of the job.

You are right, I have never worked for the gov't. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I have two sisters currently working and a father who retired from State employment, ADHS and ADES. All of them have very limited computer knowledge and would not be able to perform these tasks earlier mentioned, "how you not know how to ping a website? how you not know how to do a tracert?" (And they are all were in 'desk' jobs, not manual labor.)

The point I am trying to bring out is that many NTer's are quick to belittle others and it's not done with all the information in tact.

 

[6dollaburger]

Originally Posted by seasoned vet

Originally Posted by 6dollaBURGER

Originally Posted by seasoned vet


- came in here just to say this.
 
....i work for DHS as well. i know a great deal about computers myself so i help our IT dept out when i can to help their workload on little things. its crazy how ill help someone with the absolute most juvenile thing on a computer and people act like i helped them circumvent a NSA firewall. i mean stupid stuff like teaching them the difference between 'save' and 'save as'.
 
- i remember one time this department was using a database full of high-res photos of the terrain of the local counties. the interface they were using allowed them to upload photos as well. do you know these dudes that have been doing this job for i know more than 5 years, didnt even know what a jpeg, bmp, of tiff file was? whomever they were getting the pics from for some reason this time the extension was left off and them dudes was lost.
.....after i got the pictures working again, they hit me with the "whew, thanks man. we've been here for 6 hours trying to figure it out"

 
 
 
 
.....um....yes, yes it does.
 
- they let the fact that its electronic get in the way of their will to learn about it. to not know and not need it...thats understandable. but to have an occupation where the use of a computer is a must and you dont even know the BASICS, and im talking computer %++# that they teach at senior centers? yeah THAT = STUPIDITY.
 
...i mean you have people coming in everyday to work 'winging it' on the computer. thats like being a driving delivery guy with no license and never having driven a car.......while not trying to get a license either.

Again, how do you know that every position requires that they have computer knowledge. To my earlier copy and pasted example, maybe they are client facing and deal with more interactions and completing signature transactions, and they only need to use the computer very infrequently - and use support sparingly - how is that incompetent to their job position? I'm sure I can come up with more examples, if you like.

....okay, first off, "to have an occupation where the use of a computer is a must......" is saying that IF you have a postition that requires you to use a computer. i never said all government positions do. calm down.
 
 
.....HOWEVER, i work for a division of DHS and i can tell you every single position within us requires the use of a computer. from clocking in and out to annual training. you cannot have a position with who i work for and not have to use a computer every single day for one reason or another.
...and yes (at least with who i work for), even in client facing, even with completing signature transactions and the like, you still need to know the BASICS due to the databases we use. matter of fact, when i really think on it, even in our job announcements on USAJobs they specifically state that you need to have BASIC computer skills and be profecient with programs like WORD, and EXCEL. everything else submitted for a government job it tested and checked on....why not computer skills as well? i mean you basically have people lying on an application to get a job of a major function of that job.
 
 
....you dont sound like youve ever had a government position and dont know too much about how it all works.
 
- but thats just who i work for. i dont know about other departments, and thats why i never said all government positions require it.
 

Wasn't really excited in the first place to "calm down." -- Aside from that:

I didn't word my response properly - When I said use a computer infrequently - I meant use anything past browsing an internet window or clicking send on Outlook. Now if you're saying that every position requires a certain amount of computer skill past that - I agree, those should be tested for. However, in the initial post of this thread, there is nothing alluding to the idea that there was any indication that it was a mandatory part of the job.

You are right, I have never worked for the gov't. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I have two sisters currently working and a father who retired from State employment, ADHS and ADES. All of them have very limited computer knowledge and would not be able to perform these tasks earlier mentioned, "how you not know how to ping a website? how you not know how to do a tracert?" (And they are all were in 'desk' jobs, not manual labor.)

The point I am trying to bring out is that many NTer's are quick to belittle others and it's not done with all the information in tact.

 

[703 hwy]

Originally Posted by oidreez

I'm a govt employee and I'm pretty computer literate

 

[703 hwy]

Originally Posted by oidreez

I'm a govt employee and I'm pretty computer literate

 

[golfalphabravoecho]

Originally Posted by Brolic Scholar

Originally Posted by djaward


Why is it that the Majority of government employees are african american??

http://data.govloop.com/G...loyees-by-Race/tehm-z57r

Yeah, THAT JUST HAPPENED!

 

[golfalphabravoecho]

Originally Posted by Brolic Scholar

Originally Posted by djaward


Why is it that the Majority of government employees are african american??

http://data.govloop.com/G...loyees-by-Race/tehm-z57r

Yeah, THAT JUST HAPPENED!

 

[uptownsdotnetstacky]

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

Originally Posted by neukicks

It isn't only in the Government sector, it is EVERYWHERE. 

indeed

Yep

 

[uptownsdotnetstacky]

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

Originally Posted by neukicks

It isn't only in the Government sector, it is EVERYWHERE. 

indeed

Yep

 

[Mark Antony]

Yeah it is everywhere. @*@+ is worse when they are supposed to be technical.

 

[Mark Antony]

Yeah it is everywhere. @*@+ is worse when they are supposed to be technical.

 

[mr jordan04]

Originally Posted by Grey

yet you're typing in a dark blue font against a black background

  

 

[mr jordan04]

Originally Posted by Grey

yet you're typing in a dark blue font against a black background

  

 

[an dee 51o]

Originally Posted by SoVerSoTowel

Originally Posted by Grey

yet you're typing in a dark blue font against a black background

this

c'mon son im not a cat

 

[an dee 51o]

Originally Posted by SoVerSoTowel

Originally Posted by Grey

yet you're typing in a dark blue font against a black background

this

c'mon son im not a cat

 

[mister negative]

Originally Posted by seasoned vet

neukicks wrote:

---

It isn't only in the Government sector, it is EVERYWHERE. 

- came in here just to say this.
 
....i work for DHS as well. i know a great deal about computers myself so i help our IT dept out when i can to help their workload on little things. its crazy how ill help someone with the absolute most juvenile thing on a computer and people act like i helped them circumvent a NSA firewall. i mean stupid stuff like teaching them the difference between 'save' and 'save as'.
 
- i remember one time this department was using a database full of high-res photos of the terrain of the local counties. the interface they were using allowed them to upload photos as well. do you know these dudes that have been doing this job for i know more than 5 years, didnt even know what a jpeg, bmp, of tiff file was? whomever they were getting the pics from for some reason this time the extension was left off and them dudes was lost.
.....after i got the pictures working again, they hit me with the "whew, thanks man. we've been here for 6 hours trying to figure it out"

 
 
 

Originally Posted by Mister Negative

Computer illiteracy ≠ Stupidity

  

 
.....um....yes, yes it does.
 
- they let the fact that its electronic get in the way of their will to learn about it. to not know and not need it...thats understandable. but to have an occupation where the use of a computer is a must and you dont even know the BASICS, and im talking computer %++# that they teach at senior centers? yeah THAT = STUPIDITY.
 
...i mean you have people coming in everyday to work 'winging it' on the computer. thats like being a driving delivery guy with no license and never having driven a car.......while not trying to get a license either.
 
 
 
 
 

 
 

     
Shut up.

 

[mister negative]

Originally Posted by seasoned vet

neukicks wrote:

---

It isn't only in the Government sector, it is EVERYWHERE. 

- came in here just to say this.
 
....i work for DHS as well. i know a great deal about computers myself so i help our IT dept out when i can to help their workload on little things. its crazy how ill help someone with the absolute most juvenile thing on a computer and people act like i helped them circumvent a NSA firewall. i mean stupid stuff like teaching them the difference between 'save' and 'save as'.
 
- i remember one time this department was using a database full of high-res photos of the terrain of the local counties. the interface they were using allowed them to upload photos as well. do you know these dudes that have been doing this job for i know more than 5 years, didnt even know what a jpeg, bmp, of tiff file was? whomever they were getting the pics from for some reason this time the extension was left off and them dudes was lost.
.....after i got the pictures working again, they hit me with the "whew, thanks man. we've been here for 6 hours trying to figure it out"

 
 
 

Originally Posted by Mister Negative

Computer illiteracy ≠ Stupidity

  

 
.....um....yes, yes it does.
 
- they let the fact that its electronic get in the way of their will to learn about it. to not know and not need it...thats understandable. but to have an occupation where the use of a computer is a must and you dont even know the BASICS, and im talking computer %++# that they teach at senior centers? yeah THAT = STUPIDITY.
 
...i mean you have people coming in everyday to work 'winging it' on the computer. thats like being a driving delivery guy with no license and never having driven a car.......while not trying to get a license either.
 
 
 
 
 

 
 

     
Shut up.

 

[seasoned vet]

Originally Posted by Mister Negative

Originally Posted by seasoned vet

neukicks wrote:

---

It isn't only in the Government sector, it is EVERYWHERE. 

- came in here just to say this.
 
....i work for DHS as well. i know a great deal about computers myself so i help our IT dept out when i can to help their workload on little things. its crazy how ill help someone with the absolute most juvenile thing on a computer and people act like i helped them circumvent a NSA firewall. i mean stupid stuff like teaching them the difference between 'save' and 'save as'.
 
- i remember one time this department was using a database full of high-res photos of the terrain of the local counties. the interface they were using allowed them to upload photos as well. do you know these dudes that have been doing this job for i know more than 5 years, didnt even know what a jpeg, bmp, of tiff file was? whomever they were getting the pics from for some reason this time the extension was left off and them dudes was lost.
.....after i got the pictures working again, they hit me with the "whew, thanks man. we've been here for 6 hours trying to figure it out"

 
 
 

Originally Posted by Mister Negative

Computer illiteracy ≠ Stupidity

  

 
.....um....yes, yes it does.
 
- they let the fact that its electronic get in the way of their will to learn about it. to not know and not need it...thats understandable. but to have an occupation where the use of a computer is a must and you dont even know the BASICS, and im talking computer %++# that they teach at senior centers? yeah THAT = STUPIDITY.
 
...i mean you have people coming in everyday to work 'winging it' on the computer. thats like being a driving delivery guy with no license and never having driven a car.......while not trying to get a license either.
 
 
 
 
 

 
 

     

Shut up.



 

 
 
...you must be one of 'those people'
 
 

 

[seasoned vet]

Originally Posted by Mister Negative

Originally Posted by seasoned vet

neukicks wrote:

---

It isn't only in the Government sector, it is EVERYWHERE. 

- came in here just to say this.
 
....i work for DHS as well. i know a great deal about computers myself so i help our IT dept out when i can to help their workload on little things. its crazy how ill help someone with the absolute most juvenile thing on a computer and people act like i helped them circumvent a NSA firewall. i mean stupid stuff like teaching them the difference between 'save' and 'save as'.
 
- i remember one time this department was using a database full of high-res photos of the terrain of the local counties. the interface they were using allowed them to upload photos as well. do you know these dudes that have been doing this job for i know more than 5 years, didnt even know what a jpeg, bmp, of tiff file was? whomever they were getting the pics from for some reason this time the extension was left off and them dudes was lost.
.....after i got the pictures working again, they hit me with the "whew, thanks man. we've been here for 6 hours trying to figure it out"

 
 
 

Originally Posted by Mister Negative

Computer illiteracy ≠ Stupidity

  

 
.....um....yes, yes it does.
 
- they let the fact that its electronic get in the way of their will to learn about it. to not know and not need it...thats understandable. but to have an occupation where the use of a computer is a must and you dont even know the BASICS, and im talking computer %++# that they teach at senior centers? yeah THAT = STUPIDITY.
 
...i mean you have people coming in everyday to work 'winging it' on the computer. thats like being a driving delivery guy with no license and never having driven a car.......while not trying to get a license either.
 
 
 
 
 

 
 

     

Shut up.



 

 
 
...you must be one of 'those people'