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curry isnt a drama queen, and he's been through alot last year (wife dead, house robbed, etc.)
dude has talent too, and would be able to produce well in this system. the g8 would like to disagree though
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Originally Posted by Al3xis

I gota question..

those who had 'sympathy' for Steph last year, why not the same for Curry?


(I have none for either)

VERY simple answer. Steph tries.

Steph spent all last summer running mountains and $%$* and getting to his lightest weight ever. STILL he was never given a fair chance and basically had to gothrough all that for nothing cause D'Atoni was never gonna let him play. Thats !**@#% up right there, and thats why i sympathised with my man Steph whoused to be a great player WITH heart.

Curry on the other hand is garbage. He always HASS been garbage. He always WILL be garbage. Dont nneof yall spit at me 19 ppg cause ill just say any startingcenter getting .5 blocks per game and 6 boards are whatever is trash. That is the main job of a cener. Curry has always been hot garbage and he always will because he is soft. People needa stop sympathizing for this fat $%$* for $%$* that he doesnt do. And the difference with Steph was even though Steph never got achance to play, he knew D'Antoni=running and he got his $@% in shape. Curry should have saw D'Antoni and thought "oh i needa start working on myweight or i will never fit into the system" but not only does he not lose weight but he baloons to his largest ever. He is soft, he doesnt move, he playsno D, and he hass 0 worrk ethic. Steph does not match any of those requirements. Rhat is why i hate Eddy Curry he symbolizes all that is wrong with the Knicks.I have no sympathy for him. And i want him OUT.

I always say i can live with a loss if i KNOW my team hgave everything they had n the process and that is why i feel for Steph, he was soo skilled and playedwith soo much passion but we tried to %*%! with his game too much and that +*%$#$ with his head. Steph was mentally absued as a Knick. After taking us out ofthe gutter to the playoffs in his 1st year we brought in LB who essentially tried to turn Steph than the best scoring PG in the L into Eric #%!@#!# Snow. sureSteph is not the prototypical PG but you gotta worlk with the talent you got and he sure as %*%! was talented. He just had way too much pressure as the ConeyIsland protege and sht and instead of making the system fit Steph we tried to have him fit LBs #%!@#!# system which did not work at all for ANY of the playerswe had and that season was just a #%!@#!# disgraceful one that changed Steph completely. But like i said even with all that i stills ympathise with Steph causethat summer he tried his hardest for a chance to compete for the starting job and we never gave him a chance at all. Cutrry was given a chance... but blew itbad. Theres a difference. i lost any respect i still had for him after that, and there wasnt much from the start.

Like my mans said. Same story every $#@%!#* year. "He COULD be the best center in the East" "Hes losing weight." Im done with that man. Ihated him when he had yall blinded to think he was half way decent and i dislike him more now. He will just never be a good center. End of discussion imo.

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and he NEVER goesup $#@%!#* strong near the basket. Youre 350 $#@%!#* pounds! Grow a pair!
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dude has talent too, and would be able to produce well in this system. the g8 would like to disagree though
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yes, yes i do. He can never produce because he is just immensely %*%@#$# soft. He doesnt have the mentality, and he will never get it. There is noway that he should ever be only getting 5 boards and .5 blocks per game. It is really just inexcusable. As long as curry is on the court we will have no post Dto speak of whatsoever, and the only reason he dropped 19 a game that one year is cause Isiah is a %*%@#$# idiot coach and the only two offenses he ever ranwere iso with Jamal or dump the ball into fat #@$ Curry with no ball movement and stand and watch. And he couldnt handle double teams for shhhhit.

and it wasnt his wife it was his babys moms.
 
I see what you did there Allen
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I'm surprised Gr8 wasn't the first name in the title. He hates Eddy more than all of us combined. That 'take a seat' pic never gets old.
 
I'm not talkin bout basketball, just life.

Eddy went through some real $%$@%# up stuff. And not by just us, but by everyone, it's gone unnoticed for the most part.
 
With 3 more months left to the start of the regular season, who knows maybe curry can lose 46 more pounds....
 
Originally Posted by Al3xis

I'm not talkin bout basketball, just life.

Eddy went through some real $%$@%# up stuff. And not by just us, but by everyone, it's gone unnoticed for the most part.
I feel bad for Eddy. He seems like he is a good due for the most part. But from a basketball standpoint i cant stand him. He is a fat lazy scrubwhich i cannot stand and he is taking over $11 million of cap space that we NEED this summer. he needs to bounceeee.


I'm surprised Gr8 wasn't the first name in the title. He hates Eddy more than all of us combined. That 'take a seat' pic never gets old.
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Yea he did have a hard yr, Wife died, House Robbery, Did not play, & can't forget about that limo driver situation

If eddy magically became a 26 & 8 guy do you think Walsh would wanna keep him?
 
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Originally Posted by Al3xis

I gota question..

those who had 'sympathy' for Steph last year, why not the same for Curry?


(I have none for either)

VERY simple answer. Steph tries.

Steph spent all last summer running mountains and $%$* and getting to his lightest weight ever. STILL he was never given a fair chance and basically had to go through all that for nothing cause D'Atoni was never gonna let him play. Thats !**@#% up right there, and thats why i sympathised with my man Steph who used to be a great player WITH heart.

Curry on the other hand is garbage. He always HASS been garbage. He always WILL be garbage. Dont nneof yall spit at me 19 ppg cause ill just say any starting center getting .5 blocks per game and 6 boards are whatever is trash. That is the main job of a cener. Curry has always been hot garbage and he always will be cause he is soft. People needa stop sympathizing for this fat $%$* for $%$* that he doesnt do. And the difference with Steph was even though Steph never got a chance to play, he knew D'Antoni=running and he got his $@% in shape. Curry should have saw D'Antoni and thought "oh i needa start working on my weight or i will never fit into the system" but not only does he not lose weight but he baloons to his largest ever. He is soft, he doesnt move, he plays no D, and he hass 0 worrk ethic. Steph does not match any of those requirements. Rhat is why i hate Eddy Curry he symbolizes all that is wrong with the Knicks. I have no sympathy for him. And i want him OUT.

I always say i can live with a loss if i KNOW my team hgave everything they had n the process and that is why i feel for Steph, he was soo skilled and played with soo much passion but we tried to %*%! with his game too much and that +*%$#$ with his head. Steph was mentally absued as a Knick. After taking us out of the gutter to the playoffs in his 1st year we brought in LB who essentially tried to turn Steph than the best scoring PG in the L into Eric #%!@#!# Snow. sure Steph is not the prototypical PG but you gotta worlk with the talent you got and he sure as %*%! was talented. He just had way too much pressure as the Coney Island protege and sht and instead of making the system fit Steph we tried to have him fit LBs #%!@#!# system which did not work at all for ANY of the players we had and that season was just a #%!@#!# disgraceful one that changed Steph completely. But like i said even with all that i stills ympathise with Steph cause that summer he tried his hardest for a chance to compete for the starting job and we never gave him a chance at all. Cutrry was given a chance... but blew it bad. Theres a difference. i lost any respect i still had for him after that, and there wasnt much from the start.

Like my mans said. Same story every $#@%!#* year. "He COULD be the best center in the East" "Hes losing weight." Im done with that man. I hated him when he had yall blinded to think he was half way decent and i dislike him more now. He will just never be a good center. End of discussion imo.

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and he NEVER goesup $#@%!#* strong near the basket. Youre 350 $#@%!#* pounds! Grow a pair!
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dude has talent too, and would be able to produce well in this system. the g8 would like to disagree though
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yes, yes i do. He can never produce because he is just immensely %*%@#$# soft. He doesnt have the mentality, and he will never get it. There is no way that he should ever be only getting 5 boards and .5 blocks per game. It is really just inexcusable. As long as curry is on the court we will have no post D to speak of whatsoever, and the only reason he dropped 19 a game that one year is cause Isiah is a %*%@#$# idiot coach and the only two offenses he ever ran were iso with Jamal or dump the ball into fat #@$ Curry with no ball movement and stand and watch. And he couldnt handle double teams for shhhhit.

and it wasnt his wife it was his babys moms.


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nah i'm just playing I read every word and that %%+ was both
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steph got punked by the coach. It had nothing to do with his game or work ethic. I will admit though, a big part of the sympathy was cause he is from nyc. ican't help it. Pun said it best- five boroughs thoroughly reppin' Lets unite the city and step to the world as aweapon. How you not gonna have sympathy for a hometown kid being screwed over for his past transgressions against a shady coach?
 
Originally Posted by Supafly122

Yea he did have a hard yr, Wife died, House Robbery, Did not play, & can't forget about that limo driver situation

If eddy magically became a 26 & 8 guy do you think Walsh would wanna keep him?
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and thats more at the 8 rebounds... unless the 8 is TOs causethats there is NO secondary skill EC would EVER be getting 8 in
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nah i'm just playing I read every word and that %%+ was both
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steph got punked by the coach. It had nothing to do with his game or work ethic. I will admit though, a big part of the sympathy was cause he is from nyc. i can't help it. Pun said it best- five boroughs thoroughly reppin' Lets unite the city and step to the world as a weapon. How you not gonna have sympathy for a hometown kid being screwed over for his past transgressions against a shady coach?
Great reference my dude. Agreed 100%.
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But there is still no doubt Steph got punked, but yeah the fact that he got punked and hes from NYC made it worse. I wouldn't give a %@%+ though if stephwas from NYC and didnt deserve a chance though cause he didnt work hard enough.
 
i dunno, dude flat out put it out there that winning is not his priority this off season, which he told everyone within an earshot about last spring.
 
Originally Posted by Al3xis

I gota question..

those who had 'sympathy' for Steph last year, why not the same for Curry?


(I have none for either)
I'm half-steppin' here because I'm not expecting anything out of Eddy but I hope he proves us wrong and puts up monster numbers.

However, that one season 2006-07, there was a lot of progress made, and that should have been just the beginning. Eddy average 19.5 PPG and 7 RPG. And theknock is he also averaged about 3 TPG. That was the one season where we made Eddy the FOCAL point of our offense. The season after, poof! Steph couldn'thandle being a second option and demanded the ball more. I know he had 3 TPG, but c'mon, that was the first season he had to consistently had to deal withdouble and triple-teams and he was still adjusting. Add to the fact, he had a .57 FG%, which is only 3 percentage points less than Shaq (in his heydey) andDwight these past few years. Not to mention he was playing 35MPG for his bloated size.

I just think he has a lot of untapped potential and even if he comes up big now, he could be one of the top centers NOW if he finally proves his worth. Like Isaid earlier, I think he could be the biggest asset to our team if he finally arrives. That's bigger than any FA we can sign right now.
 
for realgm.com...

According to Frank Isola of the New York Daily News, the Knicks may tender an offer to free agent point guard Andre Miller. Miller, 33, is believed to be seeking a long-term deal, but the 76ers have been unwilling to commit too much to him, despite his obvious value. Miller averaged 16.3 points, 6.5 assists and 4.5 rebounds last season. He may be one of the most underrated players in the league. He's certainly one of the least understood. Miller has toiled away in relative obscurity (Cavs, Clippers, Nuggets, Sixers) for most of his career, but his combination of skills make him one of the top point guards in the league.

Isola writes that Miller is a poor outside shooter, who is "more comfortable and more effective scoring and passing in the low post." Which is true, but Isola's analysis overlooks Miller's greatest strengths. He has a reputation as a plodding, half-court point guard. In truth, he's one of the best open-court players in the league. He's quicker and stronger than he looks, and he rarely makes a bad decision in transition. Miller is an excellent rebounder from the point guard position, which enables him to start most fastbreaks without an outlet pass. He's also a great finisher. Plus no one in the league throws the lob better than Andre Miller (which could be an invaluable asset if you know who signs with the Knicks next summer).

This may come as a shock to fans that are unfamiliar with his skill set, but Miller would be a perfect fit in Mike D'Antoni's system. He isn't a perfect player by any stretch of the imagination, but his ability to set people up in the half-court or on the run is exactly what the Knicks need. Miller is three years younger than Jason Kidd and Grant Hill, and far more productive. Inking him to a three-year deal at the mid-level exception would be an absolute steal. A sign-and-trade involving Chris Duhon would be ideal as well.
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Ive been saying ALOT of that about Miller since the rumors all started. Especially about him being underated and probably better in the open floor althoughmost people consider him a half court guy. Son is a balla and would be great in our system and would make us THAT much better this upcoming season.

I say go for it. Like i say i understand he is getting old, but Duhon is NOT a starting PG and even if he does play this year yall WILDIN if you wanna build achampionship team with him at our point. He is NOT in our long term plans so who cares that he is young and Miller is old? Miller is still going strong andthey both not part of our long term plans anyway... Miller is just FAR better right now, and i dont see Duhon being better than Dre until Dre retires.

And Curry is garbage and had blindfolds over ALL of NY that season where he was "good." But my real homies here on NT will vouch for me that i knewthis guy was garbage since day 1. His true colors show when he has to play in an actual system, not just an offense the polar opposite of D'Antoni'swhere we just dump it into him and stand around. And even if i did want to compliment his scoring that season it does not even CLOSe to overcome his lazinessand his inability to rebound or block a shot and commit turnovers on the regular. He averages more TOs than assists, blocks, and steals combined.
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He turned down an offer from the C's to return.
Steph proved that he doesnt care about winning because he turned down the vets minimuum to ride the bench? okkkkk buddy, to say that is a stretchis an understatement
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In fact not only do i NOT say that, but i give props to Steph. Too many players his age are taking major pay cuts to play the bench on a winning team. Stephshowed that he still has left in the tank, and what good is winning a ring when you are not contributing? Steph feels he can earn more $ somewhere else (notthat he needs it but more $ = more wanted) aand contrbute some more... How can you blame him for that? Good for Steph, he should have turned down that #*!#@%offer, he is better than a vets minimum kind of player i could give a #+%+ if the Cs were a LOCK to win a ring this season (which theyre not).
 
"I'm not trying to get a bunch of money,'' Marbury said. "I know Boston doesn't have a bunch of money. I'm not seeking out teamswith more money. I want to play for a championship-contending team. I can't play for a young team that's not in a position to compete for achampionship.""I want to play in Boston. I'm not going to say that I don't. But I know the way that business works. If I don't come backit won't be because of me.



Guess when he made these comments?
 
[h1]Knicks' Walsh denies trying to low-ball Nate,Lee[/h1]8:13 PM EDT, July 13, 2009
LAS VEGAS - Donnie Walsh said talks with
the Knicks' two restricted free agents, http://www.newsday.com/topic/sports/david-lee-PESPT004274.topic
David Lee and Nate Robinson, "will be ongoing this week" and denied he is trying to use the dried-up market to force both into taking much cheaper qualifying offers.

"I'm not trying to back them into something like that," Walsh said. "There are other ways of dealing with them than that."

Robinson's qualifier is $2.9 million and Lee's is $2.7 million. But to retain the rights for both next summer, when they would become unrestricted free agents, the team would have to maintain a hefty "cap hold" of three times their salaries. For both, that's a little more than a $16-million cut out of their salary-cap space in 2010. The Knicks - who are owned by Cablevision, which also owns Newsday - could avoid this by renouncing the rights to both and giving up the Bird Rights, which lets teams sign their own free agents beyond the cap and to longer terms and higher annual raises than the rest of the league.

Walsh seemed satisfied with where the conversation is with Robinson's agent, Aaron Goodwin, but seemed a little more perturbed with the lack of progress with Lee's agent, Mark Bartelstein.
 
^ So that saves us alot of cap? Am I reading that right? If so, it is the way it is. Am I supposed to feel bad for either one of them? eff outa here. If ithelps the team, so be it.

Isn't lee's agent the same guy who messed up everything for trevor ariza? Dlee better fire that shmuck after this off season. Got lee hyped up askingfor 12 mil in a bad economy...
 
Isn't lee's agent the same guy who messed up everything for trevor ariza? Dlee better fire that shmuck after this off season. Got lee hyped up asking for 12 mil in a bad economy...
Nah, i think youre just getting confused casue Ariza's agent's name is David Lee
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An Steph just seems like he wants to get more PT than hes gonna get in Boston aint nothing wrong with that. If he feels he can get minutes somewhere else, sobe it. He shouldnt have to sign somewhere to ride the pine.
 
[h1]Greek Team Pursuing Sessions, Nate?[/h1]
Jul 13, 2009 11:26 PM EST

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Greek team Olympiakos may be readyto make a substantial offer to Ramon Sessions or Nate Robinson.

The team signed Josh Childress last season.

The Knicks may have no problem with Robinson playing abroad for a season since they would retain his rights while not having to commit to a new contract forthe restricted free-agent guard.
 
Ok... I know it's just summer league...

But Jordan Hill BETTER blow minds away when he gets on the floor because Brandon Jennings going IN playing as a pass first point guard versus Tyreke Evans. 13assists and like 5 steals through 3 quarters...



At least we have Duhon.
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