ELECTION DAY 2008:........... Barack Obama, the next President of the United States of America

[barack 0drama]

Originally Posted by NostrandAve68

This Palin chick is so sheltered its disgusting.

 

[kartoon2005]

2.3%

 

[blazinjkid]

I can't wait for Friday.

 

[superblytrife]

So basically Palin is being given the chance to reply with scripted answers and little to no actual debating? No surprise there, to be honest.

Why even call it a debate then? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?

SMH.

 

[getthismoney]

she a shook one. If you gon be a crook like most republicans, dont be halfway.

 

[fecta23]

^^^ An actual debate would be sexist

 

[nothinafter]

Originally Posted by Fecta23

^^^ An actual debate would be sexist

if hilary could do....palin weak a_ can do it

 

[abubakr shaheed]

republicans are a joke! lets fix this economy ya??? except mccain doesnt know much about the economy!!

 

[schrutefarms]

Originally Posted by K8be wan Kenobi

McCain advisers said they had been concerned that a loose format could leave Ms. Palin, a relatively inexperienced debater, at a disadvantage and largely on the defensive.

she's shook

if they just let her and Biden go back and forth, she would be ethered.

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[xx name brand xx]

The Obama Vince Carter is the funniest pic I seen in a while...

 

[vabigpoppa]

i cant tell if palin is actually that bad.....or if the republicans are trying to get expectations as low as possible and surprise people

if she IS that bad, make sure to see if she has her hair up or down covering her ears and a earpiece

 

[tbone95860]

Originally Posted by VABigPoppa

i cant tell if palin is actually that bad.....or if the republicans are trying to get expectations as low as possible and surprise people

if she IS that bad, make sure to see if she has her hair up or down covering her ears and a earpiece

She's not that bad & she won't be that bad.
They're just playing "better safe then sorry", which is a smart tactic just in case.

 

[cparkfresh]

Originally Posted by NostrandAve68

This Palin chick is so sheltered its disgusting.

 

[producedbythejuice]

Originally Posted by TBONE95860

Originally Posted by VABigPoppa

i cant tell if palin is actually that bad.....or if the republicans are trying to get expectations as low as possible and surprise people

if she IS that bad, make sure to see if she has her hair up or down covering her ears and a earpiece

She's not that bad & she won't be that bad.
They're just playing "better safe then sorry", which is a smart tactic just in case.

It just boggles my mind how her own party doesn't even have confidence in her ability to debate someone KNOWN to say too much, yet millions of Americanshave confidence that she would be able to be the President of the United States.

I mean..... PLEASE don't tell me you would trust this woman as the most powerful person in the world.

 

[2wenty thre3]

the GOP is a joke.

 

[itz rolli]

Originally Posted by TBONE95860

Originally Posted by VABigPoppa

i cant tell if palin is actually that bad.....or if the republicans are trying to get expectations as low as possible and surprise people

if she IS that bad, make sure to see if she has her hair up or down covering her ears and a earpiece

She's not that bad & she won't be that bad.
They're just playing "better safe then sorry", which is a smart tactic just in case.

Dude, how do you know?

you got some secret connection to her that no one else in the country has?

 

[back1ntheday]

so who else hopes a filibuster is in the works for this big bailout plan? another pressing rush to judgment encouraged by our president. what is the lastnotable one? allowing mere days for our members of congress to get their hands on and digest the NIE (on wmd's, nuclear program, iraq training members ofal-queda, saddam's intentions, etc.), before voting on going to war.

now an fbi investigation into these corporations for fraudulent mortgage lending. about time. let's roll-back these laws/acts put in place when gov'thas intervened in the free market.

 

[th0mas cr0wn]

anyone watching Ahmadinejad on CNN?

 

[behemothcoa]

am i the only one who finds it weird that tbone hardly updates this thread when Obama is in the lead in polls

 

[getthismoney]

T-Bone why is your boy backing out of the debates? surely the debates will affect the American economy.

 

[nothinafter]

Originally Posted by itz rOLLi

Originally Posted by TBONE95860

Originally Posted by VABigPoppa

i cant tell if palin is actually that bad.....or if the republicans are trying to get expectations as low as possible and surprise people

if she IS that bad, make sure to see if she has her hair up or down covering her ears and a earpiece

She's not that bad & she won't be that bad.
They're just playing "better safe then sorry", which is a smart tactic just in case.

Dude, how do you know?

you got some secret connection to her that no one else in the country has?

 

[roman736]

So what's this I hear about McCain bailing out on the debate and masking it with "helping the economic situation." My god these republicans willdo anything.

 

[nostrandave68]

Since my dude TBONE has been ghost for the past 2 weeks

[h3]Polling Data[/h3][table][tr][th=""]Poll[/th] [th=""]Date[/th] [th=""]Sample[/th] [th=""]Obama (D)[/th] [th=""]McCain (R)[/th] [th=""]Spread[/th] [/tr][tr][td]RCP Average[/td] [td]09/21 - 09/29[/td] [td]--[/td] [td]48.0[/td] [td]43.1[/td] [td]Obama +4.9[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rasmussen Tracking[/td] [td]09/27 - 09/29[/td] [td]3000 LV[/td] [td]51[/td] [td]45[/td] [td]Obama +6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Hotline/FD Tracking[/td] [td]09/27 - 09/29[/td] [td]901 RV[/td] [td]47[/td] [td]41[/td] [td]Obama +6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Gallup Tracking[/td] [td]09/26 - 09/28[/td] [td]2732 RV[/td] [td]50[/td] [td]42[/td] [td]Obama +8[/td] [/tr][tr][td]GW/Battleground Tracking[/td] [td]09/22 - 09/28[/td] [td]1000 LV[/td] [td]46[/td] [td]48[/td] [td]McCain +2[/td] [/tr][tr][td]CBS News/NY Times[/td] [td]09/21 - 09/24[/td] [td]LV[/td] [td]48[/td] [td]43[/td] [td]Obama +5[/td] [/tr][tr][td]FOX News[/td] [td]09/22 - 09/23[/td] [td]900 RV[/td] [td]45[/td] [td]39[/td] [td]Obama +6[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Marist[/td] [td]09/22 - 09/23[/td] [td]689 LV[/td] [td]49[/td] [td]44[/td] [td]Obama +5[/td] [/tr][/table]
When obama is up by 6pts in a FOX News poll you know the McCain/Palin candidacy is in trouble

 

[mks33]

you KNOW it's gettin bad when a conservative like Zakaria is telling you to step down...

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[h1]Fareed Zakaria[/h1] [h4]Editor of Newsweek International, columnist[/h4]PostGlobal co-moderator Fareed Zakaria is editor of Newsweek International, overseeing all Newsweek's editions abroad. He writes a regular column for Newsweek, which also appears in Newsweek International and often The Washington Post. more »


[h2]Palin Is Ready? Please.[/h2]
Will someone please put Sarah Palin out of her agony? Is it too much to ask that she come to realize that she wants, in that wonderful phrase in American politics, "to spend more time with her family"? Having stayed in purdah for weeks, she finally agreed to a third interview. CBS's Katie Couric questioned her in her trademark sympathetic style. It didn't help. When asked how living in the state closest to Russia gave her foreign-policy experience, Palin responded thus:

"It's very important when you consider even national-security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the airspace of the United States of America. Where--where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to--to our state."

There is, of course, the sheer absurdity of the premise. Two weeks ago I flew to Tokyo, crossing over the North Pole. Does that make me an expert on Santa Claus? (Thanks, Jon Stewart.) But even beyond that, read the rest of her response. "It is from Alaska that we send out those ..." What does this mean? This is not an isolated example. Palin has been given a set of talking points by campaign advisers, simple ideological mantras that she repeats and repeats as long as she can. ("We mustn't blink.") But if forced off those rehearsed lines, what she has to say is often, quite frankly, gibberish.


Couric asked her a smart question about the proposed $700 billion bailout of the American financial sector. It was designed to see if Palin understood that the problem in this crisis is that credit and liquidity in the financial system has dried up, and that that's why, in the estimation of Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson and Fed chairman Ben Bernanke, the government needs to step in to buy up Wall Street's most toxic liabilities. Here's the entire exchange:

COURIC: Why isn't it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families who are struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries; allow them to spend more and put more money into the economy instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?

PALIN: That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, were ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health-care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the--it's got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health-care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans. And trade, we've got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, scary thing. But one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today, we've got to look at that as more opportunity. All those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is a part of that.

This is nonsense--a vapid emptying out of every catchphrase about economics that came into her head. Some commentators, like CNN's Campbell Brown, have argued that it's sexist to keep Sarah Palin under wraps, as if she were a delicate flower who might wilt under the bright lights of the modern media. But the more Palin talks, the more we see that it may not be sexism but common sense that's causing the McCain campaign to treat her like a time bomb.

Can we now admit the obvious? Sarah Palin is utterly unqualified to be vice president. She is a feisty, charismatic politician who has done some good things in Alaska. But she has never spent a day thinking about any important national or international issue, and this is a hell of a time to start. The next administration is going to face a set of challenges unlike any in recent memory. There is an ongoing military operation in Iraq that still costs $10 billion a month, a war against the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan that is not going well and is not easily fixed. Iran, Russia and Venezuela present tough strategic challenges.

Domestically, the bailout and reform of the financial industry will take years and hundreds of billions of dollars. Health-care costs, unless curtailed, will bankrupt the federal government. Social Security, immigration, collapsing infrastructure and education are all going to get much worse if they are not handled soon.

And the American government is stretched to the limit. Between the Bush tax cuts, homeland-security needs, Iraq, Afghanistan and the bailout, the budget is looking bleak. Plus, within a few years, the retirement of the baby boomers begins with its massive and rising costs (in the trillions).

Obviously these are very serious challenges and constraints. In these times, for John McCain to have chosen this person to be his running mate is fundamentally irresponsible. McCain says that he always puts country first. In this important case, it is simply not true.

 

[vabigpoppa]

I updated the post for TBONE since hes MIA. He has put a lot of work into this thread and its appreciated.