Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations

[rillo561]

Agreed, he exposed the criminals and now the criminals are after him.

 

[rashi]

The hypocrisy of this government is hilarious. If some KGB agent wanted to spew highly classified info on the Kremlin, the US government would welcome him with open arms and a red carpet.

Edward Snowden is a hero. Situations like this just exploit how fragile this institution is.

Also, of course they dont know where he is. He is traveling with lawyers and foreign diplomats.


BTW Glenn Greenwald > ________

 

[ninjallamafromhell]

Once again it doesn't pay to be a movement of 1.

 

[rell826]

I'd be willing to bet that the Chinese and Russians already have copies of this:

[h1]Greenwald: Snowden’s Files Are Out There if “Anything Happens” To Him[/h1]by Eli Lake Jun 25, 2013 1:36 PM EDT
[h2]Snowden has shared encoded copies of all the documents he took so that they won’t disappear if he does, Glenn Greenwald tells Eli Lake.[/h2]

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As the U.S. government presses Moscow to extradite former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden, America’s most wanted leaker has a plan B. The former NSA systems administrator has already given encoded files containing an archive of the secrets he lifted from his old employer to several people. If anything happens to Snowden, the files will be unlocked.
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Glenn Greenwald, who first reported former NSA contractor Edward Snowden's disclosure of NSA's government surveillance programs, speaks to reporters at his hotel in Hong Kong, June 10, 2013. Greenwald first reported former NSA contractor Edward Snowden's disclosure of NSA's government surveillance programs. (Vincent Yu/AP)
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Glenn Greenwald, the Guardian Newspaper journalist Snowden first contacted in February, told the Daily Beast Tuesday that Snowden “has taken extreme precautions to make sure many different people around the world have these archives to insure the stories will inevitably be published.” Greenwald added that the people in possession of these files “cannot access them yet because they are highly encrypted and they do not have the passwords.” But, Greenwald said, “if anything happens at all to Edward Snowden, he told me he has arranged for them to get access to the full archives.”
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The fact that Snowden has made digital copies of the documents he accessed while working at the NSA poses a new challenge to the U.S. intelligence community that has scrambled in recent days to recover them and assess the full damage of the breach. Even if U.S. authorities catch up with Snowden and the four classified laptops the Guardian Newspaper reported he brought with him to Hong Kong the secrets Snowden hopes to expose will still likely be published.
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A former U.S. counter-intelligence officer following the Snowden saga closely said his contacts inside the U.S. intelligence community “think Snowden has been planning this for years and has stashed files all over the internet.” This source added, “At this point there is very little anyone can do about this.”
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The arrangement to entrust encrypted archives of his files with others also sheds light on a cryptic statement Snowden made on June 17 during a live chat with the Guardian. In the online session he said, “All I can say right now is the US Government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me. Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped.”
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Last week NSA Director Keith Alexander told the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence that Snowden was able to access files inside the NSA by fabricating digital keys that gave him access to areas he was not allowed to visit as a low-level contractor and systems administrator. One of those areas included a site he visited during his training that Alexander later told reporters contained one of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) Court orders published by the Guardian and the Washington Post earlier this month.
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It’s unclear what else is in the Snowden archive. The Guardian and the Washington Post have already published slides from a classified presentation on a program known as PRISM that gives the NSA access to data on non-U.S. persons from internet companies like Google and Facebook. The newspapers have also published the “minimization procedures” approved by Attorney General Eric Holder to make sure this collection does not include U.S. persons without a warrant and a top secret presidential directive approving offensive cyber operations.
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Greenwald said that he himself has thousands of documents from Snowden that he is continuing to examine. That figure is considerably higher than the 200 documents that Senator Dianne Feinstein, the chairwoman of the Senate Select Committee, said over the weekend that she was told Snowden possessed.
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“I don’t know for sure whether [Snowden] has more documents than the ones he has given me,” Greenwald said. “I believe he does. He was clear he did not want to give to journalists things he did not think should be published.”
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In addition to providing documents to the Guardian and the Washington Post, Snowden has also given interviews to the South China Morning Post, an English language newspaper in Hong Kong, which reported that Snowden has disclosed the Internet Protocol addresses for computers in China and Hong Kong that the NSA monitored. That paper also printed a story claiming the NSA collected the text message data for Hong Kong residents based on a June 12 interview Snowden gave the paper.
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“He was not trying to harm the U.S. Government, he was trying to shine light on it.”

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Greenwald said he would not have published some of the stories that ran in the South China Morning Post. “Whether I would have disclosed the specific IP addresses in China and Hong Kong the NSA is hacking, I don’t think I would have,” Greenwald said. “What motivated that leak though was a need to ingratiate himself to the people of Hong Kong and China.”
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Greenwald however said that in his dealings with Snowden, the 30-year-old systems administrator was adamant that he and his newspaper go through the document and only publish what served the public’s right to know. “Snowden himself was vehement from the start that we do engage in that journalistic process and we not gratuitously publish things,” Greenwald said. “I do know he was vehement about that, he was not trying to harm the U.S. Government, he was trying to shine light on it.”
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Greenwald said Snowden for example did not wish to publicize information that gave the technical specifications or blueprints for how the NSA constructed its eavesdropping network. “He is worried that would enable other states to enhance their security systems and monitor their own citizens.” Greenwald also said Snowden did not wish to repeat the kinds of disclosures made famous a generation ago by former CIA spy, Philip Agee—who published information after defecting to Cuba that outed undercover CIA officers. “He was very insistent he does not want to publish documents to harm individuals or blow anyone’s undercover status,” Greenwald said. He added that Snowden told him, “Leaking CIA documents can actually harm people, whereas leaking NSA documents can harm systems.”
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Greenwald also said his newspaper had no plans to publish the technical specifications of NSA systems. “I do not want to help other states get better at surveillance,” Greenwald said. He added, “[w]e won’t publish things that might ruin ongoing operations from the U.S. government that very few people would object to the United States doing.”
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In this sense Greenwald is applying a more traditional journalistic approach to publishing classified information than WikiLeaks, the anti-secrecy organization that published hundreds of thousands of sensitive diplomatic cables and intelligence reports from Afghanistan and Iraq — initially without removing the names of individuals who were placed at risk after their interactions with U.S. officials in dangerous places were made public. “I am supportive of WikiLeaks, but I am doing something different,” Greenwald said.
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For now, the FBI has taken a keen interest in the leak of FISA court documents. Those documents are some of the most closely guarded secrets in the U.S. intelligence community. As of last week, the FBI was investigating whether Snowden may have obtained those documents from a leak inside the secret FISA court.
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Thus far, the Guardian and Washington Post have only published FISA documents that disclosed the wholesale collection of telephone metadata, but not the authorization to monitor the electronic communications of individuals. Greenwald declined to say whether or not he possessed FISA court warrants authorizing surveillance of a specific individual.
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For now, Greenwald said he is taking extra precautions against the prospect that he is a target of U.S. surveillance. He said he began using encrypted email when he began communicating with Snowden in February after Snowden sent him a YouTube video walking him through the procedure to encrypt his email.
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“When I was in Hong Kong, I spoke to my partner in Rio via Skype and told him I would send an electronic encrypted copy of the documents,” Greenwald said. “I did not end up doing it. Two days later his laptop was stolen from our house and nothing else was taken. Nothing like that has happened before. I am not saying it’s connected to this, but obviously the possibility exists.”
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When asked if Greenwald believed his computer was being monitored by the U.S. government. “I would be shocked if the U.S. government were not trying to access the information on my computer. I carry my computers and data with me everywhere I go.”

 

[nawghtyhare]

so what happens when all his info becomes public on what documents he has?

 

[milestailsprowe]

The hypocrisy of this government is hilarious. If some KGB agent wanted to spew highly classified info on the Kremlin, the US government would welcome him with open arms and a red carpet.

Edward Snowden is a hero. Situations like this just exploit how fragile this institution is.

Also, of course they dont know where he is. He is traveling with lawyers and foreign diplomats.


BTW Glenn Greenwald > ________

F is your problem. This man is giving away nation secrets. HOW THE **** IS HE A HERO. He is running around the world giving away secrets which could harm this country.

Any idiot on the internet knew that the internet is monitored so he is no hero.

Telling us about Prism fine but what he is doing now makes him a traitor

 

[nawghtyhare]

The hypocrisy of this government is hilarious. If some KGB agent wanted to spew highly classified info on the Kremlin, the US government would welcome him with open arms and a red carpet.

Edward Snowden is a hero. Situations like this just exploit how fragile this institution is.

Also, of course they dont know where he is. He is traveling with lawyers and foreign diplomats.


BTW Glenn Greenwald > ________

F is your problem. This man is giving away nation secrets. HOW THE **** IS HE A HERO. He is running around the world giving away secrets which could harm this country.

Any idiot on the internet knew that the internet is monitored so he is no hero.

Telling us about Prism fine but what he is doing now makes him a traitor

we dont know exactly what "secrets" he is giving away it could be something that they are doing to us americans that he has in those files

 

[milestailsprowe]

we dont know exactly what "secrets" he is giving away it could be something that they are doing to us Americans that he has in those files

Lets be honest with ourselves. Russia or Hong Kong would not do anything for the man if all he could say is that the government was putting Fluoride in the water. The are another country not too many damns can be given about another countries populous.

The man worked in secret programs. He is leaking those.

 

[nawghtyhare]

we dont know exactly what "secrets" he is giving away it could be something that they are doing to us Americans that he has in those files

Lets be honest with ourselves. Russia or Hong Kong would not do anything for the man if all he could say is that the government was putting Fluoride in the water. The are another country not too many damns can be given about another countries populous.

The man worked in secret programs. He is leaking those.

im not saying i know exactly what info he has but we like to make it seem like we are the best country on earth and above places like russia and china because we are "free" well what if beneath it all our country is just as restrictive as those country. idk man i just like to have an open mind about things im not entirely sure of

 

[milestailsprowe]

im not saying i know exactly what info he has but we like to make it seem like we are the best country on earth and above places like russia and china because we are "free" well what if beneath it all our country is just as restrictive as those country. idk man i just like to have an open mind about things im not entirely sure of

Ok I'm going to simplfy this

You told somebody some of your secrets. Stuff you told him in confidence, embrassing stuff like I don't know your wife had a abortion, Now that person is in church tell those people you hate but smile towards because it church and everyone loves everyone there. Now they think different of you and your secrets out.


I know its a bad example but HE IS TELLING SECRETS!! Do you seriously think a government wants their secrets out

 

[createdestroy]

we dont know exactly what "secrets" he is giving away it could be something that they are doing to us Americans that he has in those files

Lets be honest with ourselves. Russia or Hong Kong would not do anything for the man if all he could say is that the government was putting Fluoride in the water. The are another country not too many damns can be given about another countries populous.

The man worked in secret programs. He is leaking those.

im not saying i know exactly what info he has but we like to make it seem like we are the best country on earth and above places like russia and china because we are "free" well what if beneath it all our country is just as restrictive as those country. idk man i just like to have an open mind about things im not entirely sure of

China.....and Russia..... really....

 

[frankmatthews]

Ok I'm going to simplfy this

You told somebody some of your secrets. Stuff you told him in confidence, embrassing stuff like I don't know your wife had a abortion, Now that person is in church tell those people you hate but smile towards because it church and everyone loves everyone there. Now they think different of you and your secrets out.


I know its a bad example but HE IS TELLING SECRETS!! Do you seriously think a government wants their secrets out

So if someone told you they were committing crimes you wouldn't say anything because ITS A SECRET!? Where does this blind loyalty to leaders that don't give a F about you come from? Let me guess, you're 12 and this is your daddys opinion you are adopting.

 

[nawghtyhare]

we dont know exactly what "secrets" he is giving away it could be something that they are doing to us Americans that he has in those files

Lets be honest with ourselves. Russia or Hong Kong would not do anything for the man if all he could say is that the government was putting Fluoride in the water. The are another country not too many damns can be given about another countries populous.

The man worked in secret programs. He is leaking those.

im not saying i know exactly what info he has but we like to make it seem like we are the best country on earth and above places like russia and china because we are "free" well what if beneath it all our country is just as restrictive as those country. idk man i just like to have an open mind about things im not entirely sure of

China.....and Russia..... really....

U forgot to hold and enlarge that I said "what if"

 

[nawghtyhare]

im not saying i know exactly what info he has but we like to make it seem like we are the best country on earth and above places like russia and china because we are "free" well what if beneath it all our country is just as restrictive as those country. idk man i just like to have an open mind about things im not entirely sure of

Ok I'm going to simplfy this

You told somebody some of your secrets. Stuff you told him in confidence, embrassing stuff like I don't know your wife had a abortion, Now that person is in church tell those people you hate but smile towards because it church and everyone loves everyone there. Now they think different of you and your secrets out.


I know its a bad example but HE IS TELLING SECRETS!! Do you seriously think a government wants their secrets out

I get that but what if the us is doing illegal things is it still not ok how come we condemn other countries for doing bad stuff but when we get put on blast we can't be scrutinized??

 

[milestailsprowe]

So if someone told you they were committing crimes you wouldn't say anything because ITS A SECRET!? Where does this blind loyalty to leaders that don't give a F about you come from? Let me guess, you're 12 and this is your daddys opinion you are adopting.

Ok calm down. There is a difference between the a criminal crime of a person and a person telling Governmental secrets to other countries which really care even less about you.

I truely think if he just talked about Prism and the NSA wire tapping thing then it would have been fine for me.

Then he went running to other countries telling secrets and threatening to release other secrets if something happens to him. The man is no hero, he said something that was bad fine but now he is telling gods knows what to other countries which could hurt my country in the long run. Speaking out about government wrong doings to the public is fine, hell its a American Tradition but telling other countries out secrets makes him a traitor.

My loyalty is to the country I live in because really there are not many other places a 22 year black male from NY can go and have a good chance outside of Europe(maybe)

 

[ninjallamafromhell]

F is your problem. This man is giving away nation secrets. HOW THE **** IS HE A HERO. He is running around the world giving away secrets which could harm this country.

Any idiot on the internet knew that the internet is monitored so he is no hero.

Telling us about Prism fine but what he is doing now makes him a traitor

1) This country could use a lot of harm
2) One man's traitor is another man's hero (see almost every traitor since history started getting written down)
3) Just because everyone seems to be content letting the government invade their privacy, or that you assume they are, doesn't make it right. It doesn't mean we should all just stay hush-hush about it and ignore the ethical violations.

 

[rashi]

F is your problem. This man is giving away nation secrets. HOW THE **** IS HE A HERO. He is running around the world giving away secrets which could harm this country.

Any idiot on the internet knew that the internet is monitored so he is no hero.

Telling us about Prism fine but what he is doing now makes him a traitor

I dont care if he is giving away secrets. What I do care about is that everyone's right to privacy is being infringed and bring put under constant surveillance. Selling me on the notion that surveillance is needed is absurd. All this surveillance and they couldnt stop a kid a a few pots and pans? Give me a break.

 

[bandit country]

They didn't stop Boston because we haven't sacrificed enough of our privacy yet.

 

[rillo561]

Media is just distracting the masses with this 'where is snowden?' BS, we really should be talking about what was leaked and the lies that have been exposed.

 

[Gill Baka Esq. LLC.]

what if he threatened to release other secrets cuz he felt murrican govment was gonna kill him?

**** I'd like to keep my life going strong without a threat to my existence by mostly any means necessary.

Blind Patriotism in this thread.

 

[premium3g]

THESE WERE NOT SECRETS PER SE... SNOWDEN IS NOT A TRAITOR... HE DIDNT GIVE THIS INFO TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY. HE GAVE THIS INFORMATION TO AMERICAN JOURNALISTS SO ALL AMERICANS CAN SEE WITH THEIR OWN EYES THAT OUR GOVT IS INVADING OUR PRIVACY IN THE NAME OF NATIONAL SECURITY.

THE CONSTITUTION MAKES US THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH. THE PEOPLE WHO CALL THE SHOTS BEHIND THE CURTAIN WANT TO TURN US INTO ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE EURO ZONE. THOSE WHO CANNOT SEE 1984 COMING TO LIFE WEEK BY WEEK CAN DIE 1000 DEATHS BY THE FIRING SQUAD..

THEY BLEW UP THE OTHER GUYS MERCEDES THE OTHER DAY BECAUSE HE WAS ABOUT TO RELEASE SOME INFO ON THE NSA AS WELL

IM WRITING IN CAPS BECAUSE I CAN. COME AT ME BRO

 

[blkrstr21]

1) This country could use a lot of harm
 

what??

 

[nawghtyhare]

THESE WERE NOT SECRETS PER SE... SNOWDEN IS NOT A TRAITOR... HE DIDNT GIVE THIS INFO TO A FOREIGN COUNTRY. HE GAVE THIS INFORMATION TO AMERICAN JOURNALISTS SO ALL AMERICANS CAN SEE WITH THEIR OWN EYES THAT OUR GOVT IS INVADING OUR PRIVACY IN THE NAME OF NATIONAL SECURITY.

THE CONSTITUTION MAKES US THE GREATEST NATION ON EARTH. THE PEOPLE WHO CALL THE SHOTS BEHIND THE CURTAIN WANT TO TURN US INTO ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE EURO ZONE. THOSE WHO CANNOT SEE 1984 COMING TO LIFE WEEK BY WEEK CAN DIE 1000 DEATHS BY THE FIRING SQUAD..

THEY BLEW UP THE OTHER GUYS MERCEDES THE OTHER DAY BECAUSE HE WAS ABOUT TO RELEASE SOME INFO ON THE NSA AS WELL

IM WRITING IN CAPS BECAUSE I CAN. COME AT ME BRO

on the blowing up of the Mercedes???? Just copy and paste

 

[milestailsprowe]

1) This country could use a lot of harm
2) One man's traitor is another man's hero (see almost every traitor since history started getting written down)
3) Just because everyone seems to be content letting the government invade their privacy, or that you assume they are, doesn't make it right. It doesn't mean we should all just stay hush-hush about it and ignore the ethical violations.

1.Do you live in America? If so your a idiot, if not where are you from and why do you feel this way?

2. Fine but its just how I see him

3. Its never been Hush hush outside of the name of thing. I've been to those weird websites, seen things get shut down, people get arrested for internet things and there are constant things about internet spieing on the news.

what if he threatened to release other secrets cuz he felt murrican govment was gonna kill him?

**** I'd like to keep my life going strong without a threat to my existence by mostly any means necessary.

Blind Patriotism in this thread.

That makes him a traitor to his country since he is betraying his country to stay alive. Its not blind patriotism just a fact. Betraying something makes you a traitor to something

I dont care if he is giving away secrets. What I do care about is that everyone's right to privacy is being infringed and bring put under constant surveillance. Selling me on the notion that surveillance is needed is absurd. All this surveillance and they couldnt stop a kid a a few pots and pans? Give me a break.

I never sold you on anything. I said him exposing prism was fine

It has stopped a couple of things. Brought some people in. It aint perfect by FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR but still it has done something

 

[premium3g]

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/publiccatholic/2013/06/michael-hastings-too-convenient-death/

http://www.infowars.com/is-journalist-michael-hastings-a-victim-of-obamas-assassination-policy/

http://www.dailypaul.com/290103/la-...-was-going-into-hiding-before-his-death-video