"Demarco Murray was having an affair with my wife" - Ex-teammate, Brennan Clay

[gwap]

We just need to stop putting sex on a pedestal, its natural

?????

I believe birth should be on a pedestal even though it's natural...

 

[dutchroyalt]

I stated that it doesn't make them bad people, it doesn't make them ****, gave actual real life examples of people in my life, yet dudes see the words but didn't read. Ya'll get your rocks off arguing just to argue.

so lets paint the scenario... you meet a chick with a kid.... you guys start casually dating.... a yr in she has another baby with her baby daddy... one would you decide to have a committed relationship with her after the fact... and then would you marry her... and then would you be surprised she cheated left you?

 

[gwap]

 
so lets paint the scenario... you meet a chick with a kid.... you guys start casually dating.... a yr in she has another baby with her baby daddy... one would you decide to have a committed relationship with her after the fact... and then would you marry her... and then would you be surprised she cheated left you?

stop putting sex on a pedestal... her baby daddy gave her something natural b

 

[willzway26]

No wonder he's running so good this season. Need to get that guaranteed money lol

 

[offset pow clow]

so lets paint the scenario... you meet a chick with a kid.... you guys start casually dating.... a yr in she has another baby with her baby daddy... one would you decide to have a committed relationship with her after the fact... and then would you marry her... and then would you be surprised she cheated left you?

Why is the chick getting the blame again?

 

[nako xl]

 

 
Yeah I don't know where you guys are getting that age...

I think a lot of them are assuming she's 22 because Brennan Clay is. For all we know she's 25+. She wasn't an OU student I'm pretty sure she just lived in the area.

well the other thing is it stated they met in 2010 and that they started dating shortly after.... but the thing that got me was that she had her second child in 2011....

So even then i mean if im just casually dating a chick and a yr later she has another kid with her baby daddy... why a yr later would i marry her?

He wasn't dating her when they first met. Clay didn't even get to OU til '09 but sounds like her first relationship ended after the 2nd child, then Clay started dating her soon after.

But again, why is a dude refusing to marry her, HER fault. If she had gotten a ring, it changes everything and Clay would be excused in not realizing his wife was an alleged "***"?

Should Brennan have been more judicious with who he decided to marry? Apparently. But hindsight is 20/20. Go back and google her name, look through his tweets. Everything sites are pulling up that he had to say about her yesterday made her sound pretty saintly.

And the 22 years old thing is just a made up age that someone in this thread threw out. We don't know how old she is, so take it easy with all the "2 kids at 22 ="

But even beyond that, trying to imply that there's a hard rule that having children at a young age makes you loose is dumb.

Until about 10-20 years ago, most people had their first child at 20-21. It's very easy to sit back and condemn girls for getting pregnant at a young age now, but it's not immaculate conception. Some of you dudes talking about you won't get tied down to a bust down are the ones playing a part.

 

[dutchroyalt]

 
stop putting sex on a pedestal... her baby daddy gave her something natural b

lol....

I read something he stated...saying that she was there for him and was a rock when he was going things...and she was emotionally available or some ish....

I mean a chick can be as cool as the other side of the pillow... a teenage mom... who i meet, who i am casually dating, has another kid by the same baby daddy.... a yr in... nothing about that says welp i should marry her...

Dude basically married a chick with a kid, who had a kid while dating him with a ex... a yr after giving birth (not his child) married her and damn near a yr or so later cheated on him with a homie and dude is acting like the damn wool was pulled over his eyes...lol

 

[dutchroyalt]

 
He wasn't dating her when they first met. Clay didn't even get to OU til '09 but sounds like her first relationship ended after the 2nd child, then Clay started dating her soon after.

But again, why is a dude refusing to marry her, HER fault. If she had gotten a ring, it changes everything and Clay would be excused in not realizing his wife was an alleged "***"?

Should Brennan have been more judicious with who he decided to marry? Apparently. But hindsight is 20/20. Go back and google her name, look through his tweets. Everything sites are pulling up that he had to say about her yesterday made her sound pretty saintly.

And the 22 years old thing is just a made up age that someone in this thread threw out. We don't know how old she is, so take it easy with all the "2 kids at 22 ="

But even beyond that, trying to imply that there's a hard rule that having children at a young age makes you loose is dumb.

Until about 10-20 years ago, most people had their first child at 20-21. It's very easy to sit back and condemn girls for getting pregnant at a young age now, but it's not immaculate conception. Some of you dudes talking about you won't get tied down to a bust down are the ones playing a part.

but even when you go into the olden golden days.... ppl werent just popping up having kids with folks they barely knew. And was flaunting it and being proud of it and wearing having kids randomly etc... as a badge of honor or as a sign of look at me im miss independent im bad cause i got 3/4 x amount of kids... and i can buy them all this materialistic ish... and post them in fly pics on facebook instagram like living breathing barbie dolls

 

[gwap]

 
But again, why is a dude refusing to marry her, HER fault. If she had gotten a ring, it changes everything and Clay would be excused in not realizing his wife was an alleged "***"?

what.... how can he marry a married woman?

or are you saying she had two kids and then divorced?.... that's a red flag

 

[offset pow clow]

but even when you go into the olden golden days.... ppl werent just popping up having kids with folks they barely knew. And was flaunting it and being proud of it and wearing having kids randomly etc... as a badge of honor or as a sign of look at me im miss independent im bad cause i got 3/4 x amount of kids... and i can buy them all this materialistic ish... and post them in fly pics on facebook instagram like living breathing barbie dolls

You think this **** just became a trend, social media just gave it a platform

Plenty of dudes on here whos mom is only 16-18 yrs older than them

 

[nako xl]

 

 
He wasn't dating her when they first met. Clay didn't even get to OU til '09 but sounds like her first relationship ended after the 2nd child, then Clay started dating her soon after.

But again, why is a dude refusing to marry her, HER fault. If she had gotten a ring, it changes everything and Clay would be excused in not realizing his wife was an alleged "***"?

Should Brennan have been more judicious with who he decided to marry? Apparently. But hindsight is 20/20. Go back and google her name, look through his tweets. Everything sites are pulling up that he had to say about her yesterday made her sound pretty saintly.

And the 22 years old thing is just a made up age that someone in this thread threw out. We don't know how old she is, so take it easy with all the "2 kids at 22 ="

But even beyond that, trying to imply that there's a hard rule that having children at a young age makes you loose is dumb.

Until about 10-20 years ago, most people had their first child at 20-21. It's very easy to sit back and condemn girls for getting pregnant at a young age now, but it's not immaculate conception. Some of you dudes talking about you won't get tied down to a bust down are the ones playing a part.

but even when you go into the olden golden days.... ppl werent just popping up having kids with folks they barely knew. And was flaunting it and being proud of it and wearing having kids randomly etc... as a badge of honor or as a sign of look at me im miss independent im bad cause i got 3/4 x amount of kids... and i can buy them all this materialistic ish... and post them in fly pics on facebook instagram like living breathing barbie dolls

What?

 

[gwap]

You think this **** just became a trend, social media just gave it a platform

Plenty of dudes on here whos mom is only 16-18 yrs older than them

damn b... don't put yourself out there like that.. 

 

[mr marcus]

 

Any young woman who has TWO kids outta wedlock a bust down. I wouldn't recommend any guy to marry a 22 year old chick with two kids from another dude


If I had a family member that did the same she would be called a bust down too...I don't discriminate

Ehhhhhhhhhh... She was with another dude for YEARS. The guy didn't marry her but still. And she's been with Brennan since at least 2012, cuz he was talking about her being there for him during a tough season.

How is she a bust down, when as far as you know she's slept with three people.

You can call her a "bust down" for cheating, definitely,

but not for having two children out of wedlock. That's not fair. Plenty of unwed mothers out here man. NT can't be casting judgment like the Catholic church.

bust down was extreme......I'll admit to that but I'm not backing down off the red flags 

 

[nako xl]

 

 
But again, why is a dude refusing to marry her, HER fault. If she had gotten a ring, it changes everything and Clay would be excused in not realizing his wife was an alleged "***"?

what.... how can he marry a married woman?

or are you saying she had two kids and then divorced?.... that's a red flag

So basically, what you're saying, even though all of you had refused to consent to it when @tyisny and @heLiumcLinton were trying to call people out is:

"If a single woman has 2 children regardless of her circumstance, she's no good."

Why all the going in circles earlier, then?

 

[gwap]

 
So basically, what you're saying, even though all of you had refused to consent to it when @tyisny and @heLiumcLinton was trying to call people out is:

"If a single woman has 2 children regardless of her circumstance, she's no good."

Why all the going in circles earlier, then?

what?

we said if a chick is early 20's with 2 kids and single that is a red flag ie. any interpersonal interaction should be taken with extreme caution 

what is "no good"?

 

[offset pow clow]

So because the baby daddy decided to not step up & be a man its a red flag on the chicks end

 

[dutchroyalt]

 
He wasn't dating her when they first met. Clay didn't even get to OU til '09 but sounds like her first relationship ended after the 2nd child, then Clay started dating her soon after.

But again, why is a dude refusing to marry her, HER fault. If she had gotten a ring, it changes everything and Clay would be excused in not realizing his wife was an alleged "***"?

Should Brennan have been more judicious with who he decided to marry? Apparently. But hindsight is 20/20. Go back and google her name, look through his tweets. Everything sites are pulling up that he had to say about her yesterday made her sound pretty saintly.

And the 22 years old thing is just a made up age that someone in this thread threw out. We don't know how old she is, so take it easy with all the "2 kids at 22 ="

But even beyond that, trying to imply that there's a hard rule that having children at a young age makes you loose is dumb.

Until about 10-20 years ago, most people had their first child at 20-21. It's very easy to sit back and condemn girls for getting pregnant at a young age now, but it's not immaculate conception. Some of you dudes talking about you won't get tied down to a bust down are the ones playing a part.

even if you throw out the age factor... they been married what two yrs... she had her second child in 2011... so even then one could say if he met her start dating her after that fact... he really didnt date her much at all and he pretty much just met and wifed her up shortly after... so it still was an error in judgement.

And to the married argument even if this was the case i wouldnt wife a chick up who just divorced and just had a baby with her husband either....

Nah dude i got to let that womb heal marinate a tad... 

 

[gwap]

So because the baby daddy decided to not step up & be a man its a red flag on the chicks end

Yep, and if a chick got married and had a baby with a doctor who happened to die of a car accident, I would not see that as a red flag,.

Choosing who you procreate with is one of the most important decisions a human can ever make period... 

so it reflects on your character...same goes for the ballplayers puttin seeds in these strippers/escort.

 

[dutchroyalt]

You think this **** just became a trend, social media just gave it a platform

Plenty of dudes on here whos mom is only 16-18 yrs older than them

true but social media made it possible... i aint saying yrs ago...women lets say in there 40's or so wouldnt have been on some kim k, amber rose etc.. guest stars or maury... im just saying since that platform didnt exist we will never know. But i do think the mordern women/teen of today is far different then one lets say 30/40 yrs ago.... 

Hell times are changed... it was damn near taboo and seen as damn near a reason to disown etc... family who had a child as a teen and/or wasnt married.

Nowadays folks embrace it damn near encourage... be on some its gods angel, it was heaven sent... Hell yrs ago a women dated around hell not even slept around was seen as a oh... hell nowadays.... damn near any woman short of full on career as a pro or a pron star is seen as a second chance, or potential wifey material.... Welp yea she got 4/5 baby daddies... but she goes to church... she got a degree...lol she got a job etc... 

That negates and erases all the bad decisions, bad choices etc, she has ever done. I mean i aint saying if a chick aint a virgin on the honeymoon throw her back... But dudes are going waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to left and welp hell ok she 25 4 kids... at least she aint on bangbors lol.... could be worse... she could be 25 with 8 kids lol.

The bar gotta be set a little higher then...well as long as she doesnt work the corners, won a avn award, or has a homemade sextape out= second chance and potential wifey material.

 

[heliumclinton]

So because the baby daddy decided to not step up & be a man its a red flag on the chicks end

That's all I'm hearing from these people. If I decide not to marry my girl, it's her fault

Terrible immature attitude

 

[mr marcus]

So because the baby daddy decided to not step up & be a man its a red flag on the chicks end

Obviously she didn't use the right judgement when she spread her legs. Don't know many dudes who pulled a 180 after a kid. The signs were there before but the woman chose to ignore it because of the "he wouldn't do me like that" mentality 

A baby don't make a bum *** dude.

 

[gwap]

That's all I'm hearing from these people. If I decide not to marry my girl, it's her fault

Terrible immature attitude

If you put two seeds in her...and decided not to marry and shook out.... what I look like jumping in to wife her?!?!?!?!

 

[coldcity]

2nd chick is ugly.

I'd smash but yes I agree

 

[nako xl]

 

 
So basically, what you're saying, even though all of you had refused to consent to it when @tyisny and @heLiumcLinton was trying to call people out is:

"If a single woman has 2 children regardless of her circumstance, she's no good."

Why all the going in circles earlier, then?

what?

we said if a chick is early 20's with 2 kids and single that is a red flag ie. any interpersonal interaction should be taken with extreme caution 

what is "no good"?

I mean... dudes were using phrases like bust down interchangeably with poor decision skills and red flag. I just saved time and space with "no good."

My point is there are circumstances behind every decision a person makes. We don't know how old Brennan's wife is, but let's ignore her for a moment. Until fairly recently it was the norm to have children in your early 20s. We're he first generation to hold off til our late 20s/30s because of careers, educational pursuits, and the economy.

So taking that into consideration, I said what makes a hypothetical single 22 year old with two children a red flag? People said having two children out of wedlock.

OK. So if she was married and then separated or divorced from her ex, she's suddenly not a bust down?  "No. Because a divorced 22 year old with two kids is a red flag." "a 22 year old with two kids is a bust down."

So the implication there from posters is, once a chick has two kids, unless she's 30, she's either a terrible decision maker or loose. People are saying it's one or the other, nothing else.

What if she thought she was going to be with her baby's father for the rest of her life? "doesn't matter." What if she thought they'd be married eventually? "Hold out for the ring."

What if she doesn't hold marriage in the same high esteem as you? After all marriage as it's currently conceived is even a fairly modern idea. A lot of states still prescribe to the laws of "common law marriage" — live with someone for 5 years and you're married, don't even have to go through the formal ceremony.

What @tyisny is trying to point out to all of your scorn is you're taking your own personal ideals and biases and applying them inflexibly to everyone else without accepting that they're just that — your ideals.

**** I don't even believe in marriage.

 

[offset pow clow]

Yep, and if a chick got married and had a baby with a doctor who happened to die of a car accident, I would not see that as a red flag,.

Choosing who you procreate with is one of the most important decisions a human can ever make period... 

so it reflects on your character...same goes for the ballplayers puttin seeds in these strippers/escort.

So ppl cant change? putting a seed in a stripper/escort means they're automatically gonna be terrible parents?

Plenty of doctors out here living a double life, so idk how being pregnant by a doctor means anything besides the title of him being a doctor