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[pmatic]

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I'm just trolling, I don't think management is going to fire Mike anytime soon.

 

[kb8 3qwick]

I think someone mentioned this before, but aside from the fact that Mike Brown is not that good of a coach, he has all of these horrible assistant coaches who have been fired multiple times trying to help. I've never seen Bernie Bickerstaff coaching a winning team and Eddie Jordan has been fired from a couple of teams himself.

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Sooo will management do something if we go, like... 1-5 or 2-4 on this upcoming homestand?

 

[essential1]

1. Just look at Sloan or one of the Van Gundy's... If none of them want to be here, then you keep Mike Brown.. If one of them do, then start from there (Again I don't believe this is nearly as big Mike Brown's fault as some are indicating, and I do think they would get it together under him, but he doesn't have that luxury of time. Longer we go the more uphill it becomes..) Also all Rookie Coaches strictly forbidden, would be way too much pressure..

2. You cut someone. I say Morris gets the first cut. Then add Delonte West. You give Blake & Delonte the reigns for a few weeks. And give Nash extra rest.. When Nash is 100% for more than 4-5 days, you bring him back in.. Give the backup spot to Delonte, and start shopping Blake for either a quality backup 3/4 or any expiring contract.

3. Duhon is next up. You hold him as the third PG until the trade deadline.. And with whomever we get from Blake... With Duhon, Earl Clark and maybe DJO or Ebanks you trade them for a $6-7million dollar player (Ariza is who I think about the most)


We really need to make a move for the sake of making one.

 

[CP1708]

What I said in the NBA thread just off the top of my head, there's more but why bother, you all hate when I say anything bad about Mike.

Lakers will be fine when Brown gets fired.

Jamison at the 3, Ron at the 2, both out of position and one of the dumbest ******g ideas I have ever seen.


New, better coach will slide Jamison back to the 4, go ahead and play Ron back the at 3, Meeks at the 2, and most likely Nash and Dwight/Pau with the 2nd unit so they always have 2 of the big 4 with 3 bench guys.

Then he can play Dwight/Pau at C, with Jordan Hill at the 4, Ebanks, Kobe and Blake and still have balance, spread minutes and keep guys in rythym and comfortable.

Then he can play all 4 at once in the final 6 minutes of games + Ron for D, or Meeks for shooting/spacing.




Everything I just said, Mike Brown hasn't done for a single second yet this year.

 

[fudgemoney24]

It's ok everyone. I've figured out the solution!

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

[pmatic]

Stan Van Gundy has already said he won't be coaching this season. He doesn't want to uproot his family (three kids) and he's doing commentary for NBC Sports starting tomorrow. And then there's the whole Dwight Howard angle.

 

[mjgreatxii]

What I said in the NBA thread just off the top of my head, there's more but why bother, you all hate when I say anything bad about Mike.

Please go off more on mike brown, **** what these dudes say..

1-4, f outta here if its not the coaches fault

 

[essential1]

Stan Van Gundy has already said he won't be coaching this season. He doesn't want to uproot his family (three kids) and he's doing commentary for NBC Sports starting tomorrow. And then there's the whole Dwight Howard angle.

I believe that the rift between SVG & D12 is way overblown.. But okay

JVG or Sloan.. But I really dont want to lose JVG's rants during games

So Sloan it is.

 

[goldenarmz97]

Lakers' Coach Fired as Team's Turmoil Continues
Sports: Ax falls after three-game losing streak and follows the signing of Dennis Rodman.
February 25, 1999|MARK HEISLER | TIMES STAFF WRITER



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The crazy world of the glamour team of the National Basketball Assn., the Los Angeles Lakers, continued to turn topsy-turvy Wednesday with the firing of Coach Del Harris.

The move, coming within hours of the ending of the Dennis Rodman signing circus, meant that, incredibly, the ever-tardy Rodman made it to his first Laker practice on schedule but Harris didn't.

It was yet another stunning development0--the decision to take on the quirky, unpredictable Rodman had the team's players and front office in a two-week turmoil of disagreement--that had still another person fighting back tears at the podium. Rodman's Planet Hollywood news conference Tuesday eventually disintegrated into tears.

Harris, the Lakers' coach who was just 12 games into this turbulent season, had a stay of four-plus years in which he was named coach of the year and posted rising win totals of 48-53-56-61. Those numbers, plus recent personal situations, made his firing both surprising and emotional.

The scholarly looking, white-haired Harris, 61, is an ordained minister. Both his parents died during the off-season, and he talked Wednesday intending to dedicate this season to them.

"Sometimes," Harris said, with tears in his eyes, "we have it in our mind, what is going to be the best way to honor our parents, our friends, our families or ourselves.

"I thought that it would be winning all these games and being the guy. But there was a deep thing that happened to me and I think that has visited me.

"Since all this [his parents' deaths] happened, I've been a different person. I've had a void in my personal life in these last few months, and I need help every day because it's a consistent day-to-day battle. So I don't feel like a loser today. I feel like I'm winning in the bigger battle, the more important game of life."

Harris had been on thin ice since reports of owner Jerry Buss' dissatisfaction surfaced a year ago. A winning streak got Harris off the hook last season, but when he came back in February, with only months on his contract and Buss refusing to give him the standard one-year extension, the clock started ticking again.

And with the departure of Michael Jordan and the breakup of the Chicago Bulls, the pressure has increased on the Lakers and their management to fill that league void--and do it now. NBC has opted to put the Lakers, with popular players such as Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant, on its national telecast 11 times this season, more than any other team. In addition, TNT and TBS will put them on an additional 10 times.

Nevertheless, the timing of Harris' firing, with the roster in flux, with Rodman having just arrived, and with a reported five-player deal for Charlotte's Glen Rice still pending, was a surprise.

"I heard it after I was on the floor," said Rodman, his celebrated arrival suddenly reduced to an afterthought.

"He [Harris] came down and said, 'Sorry I couldn't be here, but good luck to you.' That's when I heard it."

The move was so sudden, the Lakers didn't even announce Harris' successor.

Jerry West, executive vice president, said the team will choose between assistant coaches Kurt Rambis and Larry Drew, who were interviewed Wednesday. Senior assistant Bill Bertka is expected to coach tonight's game against the Clippers at the Pond in Anaheim.

The change came so fast that the team didn't notify media outlets that an announcement was forthcoming. A large gathering of reporters and camera crews had come to the Forum on Wednesday, expecting nothing more than Rodman's first practice and his first comments since signing a Laker contract Tuesday night.

A team spokesman said General Manager Mitch Kupchak would hold a news conference. At the appointed hour, Kupchak arrived with West, who announced that Harris had been fired.

"The thing that makes it so tough," said West, "[is that] Del Harris has been a friend of mine for years and someone who's done just an absolute incredible job here.

"The nature of these jobs here, they're fragile. Our jobs are fragile. To say we're blaming Del Harris for our play now would not be the case. We simply need to move forward, to try to re-energize ourselves, to refocus on our goals. And our goal is to field the very best possible team we can have. And we have not witnessed that particularly here, lately.

"I just feel the last two games we played were something that has not been acceptable. . . . There just looked like there was a deterioration. I talked to Jerry Buss this morning. We had a long conversation. We just felt the time was now, even though it was an awkward period for us."

The Lakers started the season 6-3, but then lost consecutive games at Seattle; at Denver, where the Nuggets, who had won once, came from seven points behind in the last 2 minutes 10 seconds; and by 10 points at Vancouver, the first game they have ever lost to the four-year-old franchise.

"I have this saying," said Harris, "that nothing in the NBA ever happens bad until you lose three games in a row. How many of you ever heard me say that? This is what I was talking about."

Harris, one of just 20 NBA coaches to win 500 or more games, has coached in all or part of 14 seasons in the NBA. His overall regular season record is 556-457; with his 38-50 playoff mark, he is 594-507 overall. He got his first NBA head coaching job with the Houston Rockets in the 1979-80 season and took his 1980-81 team to the NBA finals, where they lost to the Boston Celtics. He remained with the Rockets for four seasons, then coached the Milwaukee Bucks for four seasons and part of a fifth in 1991.

His first season with the Lakers was 1994-95, and his total regular season record with them was 224-116; with his 17-19 playoff mark, he was 241-135 overall. He was NBA coach of the year in 1995.

Obviously shaken, Harris went out determinedly gracious.

"I appreciate the opportunity to coach the Los Angeles Lakers, that's as high as you can get in what I do.

"You know," he said, "if I owned the team, I might make the same decision, in all honesty.

"I might just say, 'Well, we're not going well, we just lost three games in a row, we've got Dennis Rodman coming in, and we're making that change. I like the coach and I sure hate to do this, he's a good guy and he's done a great job for us. Nonetheless, I don't want to make a change now and then say he and Dennis don't get along, in two weeks make another change and set us back. I think it was a reasonable decision, and I don't find fault with it."

 

[ag 47]

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[Johnny_Cakes]

If (IF) Stan is jaded towards Dwight then I doubt Jeff will be open to coaching him. That leaves Jerry Sloan.

Or Phil.






Come back, Phil

 

[knightngale]

I would seriously start Duhon over blake. He is a better defender and I think can probably knock more open shots than Blake can. Either way, Morris should not be getting any playing time.


Brown kept talking about not hitting open shots. Does he really expect Morris and Ebanks to be hitting open shots?:x

I am pretty sure that there are some better backup PG's and SF's in the D league and free agency than the trash the Lakers are putting out there.

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

Go edit that, AG

 

[CP1708]

Maaaaaan, what?

Sloan and his sub patterns over Van Gundy? JEFF, Van Gundy?


This place has turned into the twilight zone.


Jeff should have been the first, last, and only call we made 18 months ago.

If he said no, we should have bought Monty. I wonder how much it would cost to get Monty, Buss just might offer at this point. We're getting clowned all over the globe now. Net, NBATV, Clipper fans of all people, last in our own division, 100 million dollars. Jim is going to blow a gasket pretty soon.

Bout ******g time when it happens. Shoulda done this last year.

 

[e3lal]

Nate McMilan anyone?

 

[essential1]

Nate McMilan anyone?

Interesting.. Forgot he existed.

 

[pmatic]

Nate McMilan anyone?

His offensive philosophy is pretty conservative as well.

He gets the most out of his teams though.

 

[nycknicks105]

No way you guys get Stan Van Gundy or Jeff. D12 is on that team.

I doubt Jerry Sloan goes to that team as well. He's not a big city guy with a glamour personality.

He would shape you guys up though.

I still think Phil is coming back

 

[CP1708]

Lakers KNEW they were getting Phil (or at least, making a run at him) so they could fire Del who clashed with some of the young kids. (Van Exel)

Bottom line, they knew Phil was coming.

 

[essential1]

I would seriously start Duhon over blake. He is a better defender and I think can probably knock more open shots than Blake can. Either way, Morris should not be getting any playing time.
Brown kept talking about not hitting open shots. Does he really expect Morris and Ebanks to be hitting open shots?:x
I am pretty sure that there are some better backup PG's and SF's in the D league and free agency than the trash the Lakers are putting out there.

Never going to happen unless the Wizards are trying to clear cap to build around Wall & Nene over the next two offseasons (WHICH THEY DEFINITELY SHOULD BE DOING).. I'll explain it if asked again, but my reasoning was somewhere here before

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=b26bdyy

Would have to sign PG immediately (Delonte). Also can't be done until Nash is back first

 

[CP1708]

Nate McMilan anyone?

I lived up here when he was here, he's funny, he has ZERO idea about a rotation either, in fact, he and his teams were BEST when players were hurt. When they had the full 12 man roster, he would cost them games with his subbing. They didn't know roles, he screwed with minutes, guessed, he was bad. When he had 8 guys only, they all had to play 28 minutes etc, they would win games they shouldn't cuz he couldn't yank them. Portland media was driven mad by him and would always talk about it.

If we got him, we'd get a boost from that new coach stuff for a few months, then he would wear on them and they'd tune him out eventually. So it would be a short term hire, maybe it works for the 2 years, but it's risky. He's a George Karl guy, and that makes me leery.

 

[essential1]

Maybe Jeanie gives him some of that good to convince him to come back again

 

[knightngale]

This is what I would do if I was the coach

C-Howard
PF-Hill
SF-Artest
SG-Bryant
PG-Duhon

Bench:

C-Gasol
PF-Jamison
SF-Ebanks
SG-Meeks
PG-Blake

I would also consider starting Meeks at PG to spread the floor since it is not like we have any legit NBA PG's on this team. Scrap the Princeton and run purely pick and rolls, post play, and run some screens for old man kobe.

 

[nycknicks105]

Lakers KNEW they were getting Phil (or at least, making a run at him) so they could fire Del who clashed with some of the young kids. (Van Exel)

Bottom line, they knew Phil was coming.

Stupid Knicks retaining Jeff Van Gundy and letting Phil walk