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its all a plan for the cavs. they get the worst record, they get the #1 draft pick. they start a new era with a new star. cmon theyve changed uniforms and everything and have a new image. like if lebron was never there.
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Shhhhhhhhhh , common sense and logic doesnt bode well around these parts.Originally Posted by Essential1
Were we expecting them to be 17-17??? I want 1 person to tell me they were expecting the Cavs to win 40+ games this year..
They suck, but I also think the team just doesn't have it in them..
They have a decent core.. And no superstar.. If you want to make the playoffs, you need a superstar..
They end up with 20-25 wins this year.. If they had a reliable #1 they possibly double their wins....
Look at every team that loses a superstar.. Mid 90's Bulls lost MJ, still had Scottie.. Mid 2000's Lakers lost Shaq, still had Kobe.. Cavs lost LeBron but had who to take over the team??
The Cavs by no means were the greatest team ever.. But to say that in that system they all sucked is a lie... They had no great number 2.. BUT they had a bunch of role players and different pieces and they made that system work.. A system made a bunch of role players and a superstar a REALLY GOOD TEAM.
Remember any team that has a superstar he only gets you 25-30 points a night.. You need other people to give you 60-75points a night also..
Shhhhhhhhhh , common sense and logic doesnt bode well around these parts.Originally Posted by Essential1
Were we expecting them to be 17-17??? I want 1 person to tell me they were expecting the Cavs to win 40+ games this year..
They suck, but I also think the team just doesn't have it in them..
They have a decent core.. And no superstar.. If you want to make the playoffs, you need a superstar..
They end up with 20-25 wins this year.. If they had a reliable #1 they possibly double their wins....
Look at every team that loses a superstar.. Mid 90's Bulls lost MJ, still had Scottie.. Mid 2000's Lakers lost Shaq, still had Kobe.. Cavs lost LeBron but had who to take over the team??
The Cavs by no means were the greatest team ever.. But to say that in that system they all sucked is a lie... They had no great number 2.. BUT they had a bunch of role players and different pieces and they made that system work.. A system made a bunch of role players and a superstar a REALLY GOOD TEAM.
Remember any team that has a superstar he only gets you 25-30 points a night.. You need other people to give you 60-75points a night also..
Originally Posted by Essential1
Remember any team that has a superstar he only gets you 25-30 points a night.. You need other people to give you 60-75points a night also..
Originally Posted by Essential1
Remember any team that has a superstar he only gets you 25-30 points a night.. You need other people to give you 60-75points a night also..
Come on now.Originally Posted by CP1708
You guys are going to bring up the Cavs are also without Shaq, Z, and West this year as well as Lebron, right?
People can stop acting like it's the same 11 guys and only Lebron has been taken out of the equation now.
Obviously, Lebron is the main reason they are now desolate, but there are 3 other pieces missing from last years team, and 2 of them from the year before's team.
#justsaying
Come on now.Originally Posted by CP1708
You guys are going to bring up the Cavs are also without Shaq, Z, and West this year as well as Lebron, right?
People can stop acting like it's the same 11 guys and only Lebron has been taken out of the equation now.
Obviously, Lebron is the main reason they are now desolate, but there are 3 other pieces missing from last years team, and 2 of them from the year before's team.
#justsaying
Was traded in the 07-08 season.Originally Posted by Freeze
^ jason kidd
Was traded in the 07-08 season.Originally Posted by Freeze
^ jason kidd
Originally Posted by JDB1523
To answer the question: no, LeBron was not wrong to leave the Cavs, players are free to do what they please. He was wrong to quit in the playoffs and then hold a 1-hour TV special so the world could watch a guy who has won nothing make a decision.
Originally Posted by JDB1523
To answer the question: no, LeBron was not wrong to leave the Cavs, players are free to do what they please. He was wrong to quit in the playoffs and then hold a 1-hour TV special so the world could watch a guy who has won nothing make a decision.
Originally Posted by Dwele Farooq Al Suleed Afzul
So do you want to credit some of those wins to Mike Brown or something? Hell, LeBron took Eric Snow, Larry Hughes, Donyell Marshall, Big Z, and Daniel Gibson to the finals.
Speaking of this topic though, what is the biggest wins turnaround from 1 season to the next, in the negative direction?
These Cavs have to be on pace
Originally Posted by Dwele Farooq Al Suleed Afzul
So do you want to credit some of those wins to Mike Brown or something? Hell, LeBron took Eric Snow, Larry Hughes, Donyell Marshall, Big Z, and Daniel Gibson to the finals.
Speaking of this topic though, what is the biggest wins turnaround from 1 season to the next, in the negative direction?
These Cavs have to be on pace
Originally Posted by Dwele Farooq Al Suleed Afzul
So do you want to credit some of those wins to Mike Brown or something? Hell, LeBron took Eric Snow, Larry Hughes, Donyell Marshall, Big Z, and Daniel Gibson to the finals.
Speaking of this topic though, what is the biggest wins turnaround from 1 season to the next, in the negative direction?
These Cavs have to be on pace
Originally Posted by Dwele Farooq Al Suleed Afzul
So do you want to credit some of those wins to Mike Brown or something? Hell, LeBron took Eric Snow, Larry Hughes, Donyell Marshall, Big Z, and Daniel Gibson to the finals.
Speaking of this topic though, what is the biggest wins turnaround from 1 season to the next, in the negative direction?
These Cavs have to be on pace