Basketball Thread About Nothing

if this was the 90's
you'd be the guy calling travel on a euro step because it "looks funny" :lol:
Awww, aren’t you sweet… no - I didn’t say the gather and zero was illegal - I said guys in pickup trying it and taking five steps calling it legal are ruining it. And yeah, if they do that I’m calling travel.
 
So how would you explain the, "Up and under?"

How is that any different?
Step through is legal - it just has never been used like now. Everyone always kept that pivot down. But since no one until recently used it that way it looks like a travel. Then you’ll get the guys who stop and think a step through means two steps since you “get two steps after gathering”. THOSE are the ones I’ll call.

Should have worded my original different.
 
Got you.
So when this was first done, I legit was confused as to how it was legal. :lol:


And this one is mild compared to what we see now. I’ve seen guys be at a complete stop, step forward and lift the pivot and shoot a layup - by rule, legal. It just doesn’t compute with the eye test. But as long as they shoot or pass before that pivot lands it’s good.
 
I went to my cousins middle school game. All them kids do is launch 3s lol! I didn’t see one pull up mid range all game and just ISO, 5 out lol! I don’t know if fundamentals lacking these days or what
 
I went to my cousins middle school game. All them kids do is launch 3s lol! I didn’t see one pull up mid range all game and just ISO, 5 out lol! I don’t know if fundamentals lacking these days or what
i went to my nephews practice last week and the coach was running pick and roll plays with him and the only kid who can dribble
my nephew is 9, about or almost 5ft tall and wears a mens sz 8.5.
he is light on his feet, but thats cause we also has him play soccer / baseball
 
gentlemen, under NCAA, NFHS that is a travel...

PRO FIBA legal.

trust me... i do this for a living.

I remember you saying you reffed.

Are you saying it IS a travel under those systems

Or

It would probably be called travel since they wouldn't have the luxury of replay?
 
I remember you saying you reffed.

Are you saying it IS a travel under those systems

Or

It would probably be called travel since they wouldn't have the luxury of replay?
under NCAA and HS rules yes it is a travel by rule.

i remember there was another basketball thread around here and i poked in to answer questions.

the pick up game rules are different but if anyone needs a NCAA or HS rule question answered hmu!
 
gentlemen, under NCAA, NFHS that is a travel...

PRO FIBA legal.

trust me... i do this for a living.
Wait, are you saying a step thru is a HS/ncaa travel?
Because what Davies did looks like the same footwork as a step thru. Like what all “Step Through Joe” videos are. Except with a 180 spin added, but same footwork.
 
Playing with the old heads on Sunday mornings, those moves probably wouldn't fly and there's no point arguing.

During the weeknight games at the Rec though, it's just a matter of someone wanting to actually call it and the energy the person has to argue the call back:lol
 
Wait, are you saying a step thru is a HS/ncaa travel?
Because what Davies did looks like the same footwork as a step thru. Like what all “Step Through Joe” videos are. Except with a 180 spin added, but same footwork.

In NCAA/HS yes it is.

Pro-AM, Pro, Fiba... I can care less about that style of play.

Step 1. His left foot is the 1st step he takes as he ends his dribble
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Step 2. Even though he did not land simultaneously on both feet we’d still let it go
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Step 3. A player is not allowed to take a 3rd step prior to release of the ball for a try at a goal or a pass. His right is his 3rd step.
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The Kobe play is slightly different as Kobe dribbles into the spin move as opposed to ending his dribble PRIOR to his "step thru"
 
Good to have an expert opinion in here for these calls.

Do you get annoyed by the amount of Euro-steps in modern basketball?

bigsupa bigsupa
 
Good to have an expert opinion in here for these calls.

Do you get annoyed by the amount of Euro-steps in modern basketball?

bigsupa bigsupa

It’s interesting - I know these sorts of calls were getting called on me back in the day - I remember the hop step coming out and causing an uproar. Just means the game has changed - which it always will
 
In NCAA/HS yes it is.

Pro-AM, Pro, Fiba... I can care less about that style of play.

Step 1. His left foot is the 1st step he takes as he ends his dribble
5C435C9D-5934-4A61-A826-E911059A95AE.jpeg

Step 2. Even though he did not land simultaneously on both feet we’d still let it go
F93E0837-A37C-4161-B378-F21705590772.jpeg

Step 3. A player is not allowed to take a 3rd step prior to release of the ball for a try at a goal or a pass. His right is his 3rd step.
35B50D85-2E7D-4E29-948B-FC3D608EC617.jpeg


The Kobe play is slightly different as Kobe dribbles into the spin move as opposed to ending his dribble PRIOR to his "step thru"
Hmm. I see your screen shot but don’t see how anyone can watch the video and call that left foot as “step 1”.

Besides that there are countless examples of step throughs being legal in college
 
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