Asian Culture Discussion Thread

[whatscomplex]

This film is slated for Aug 2018:

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt3104988/?ref_=m_nmfmd_act_1

http://ew.com/movies/crazy-rich-asians-cast-characters/


Interesting mix of known and new names. Read the book some time ago. Curious to see how movie will work and come together. Hard to say. See what happens. Sidenote: throws me off seeing the Fresh Off The Boat mom in a different younger role. Just saying.

Interesting. Doesn't appeal to me, and honestly looks like the type of movie that might bomb, but still cool that it's being done at least I guess.

I was thinking it's kinda interesting that Asian Americans haven't made much impact on American popular culture. Asians have, but it's imported.

Movies, shows, and music from Korea are pretty popular in America, and Anime and fashion from Japan is pretty popular as well.

Hopefully more Asian Americans can get into the arts and start shifting popular culture. I think they might. We have a lot of people now who grew up poor with immigrant parents who went into more steady, reliable careers. I think the luxury of growing up middle/upper class for this next generation might lead to more kids into the arts and sports.

 

[equality]

Interesting. Doesn't appeal to me, and honestly looks like the type of movie that might bomb, but still cool that it's being done at least I guess.

I was thinking it's kinda interesting that Asian Americans haven't made much impact on American popular culture. Asians have, but it's imported.

Movies, shows, and music from Korea are pretty popular in America, and Anime and fashion from Japan is pretty popular as well.

Hopefully more Asian Americans can get into the arts and start shifting popular culture. I think they might. We have a lot of people now who grew up poor with immigrant parents who went into more steady, reliable careers. I think the luxury of growing up middle/upper class for this next generation might lead to more kids into the arts and sports.

One reason for the lack of Asian American influence in popular culture is probably the emphasis on academics from Asian parents and downplaying of non-academic activities.

Try telling Asian parents you want to pursue the arts. Hopefully this starts to change as Asian Americans begin having kids and so on

 

[frink85]

Other races/cultures have much longer footholds in America than Asians do. Like you guys said maybe our kids or our kids’ kids will be the next movie stars or pop sensations or superheroes

Edit: patiently waiting for that Amadeus Cho Hulk movie in 2025

 

[bigjny88]

One reason for the lack of Asian American influence in popular culture is probably the emphasis on academics from Asian parents and downplaying of non-academic activities.

Try telling Asian parents you want to pursue the arts. Hopefully this starts to change as Asian Americans begin having kids and so on

THIS

If we want to start getting more of our people into popular culture, we COLLECTIVELY have to start encouraging the future generation as Asian-Americans to pursue things arts and things they're passionate about BESIDES the usual engineering and healthcare fields that previous generation of Asian parents pressure our generation to do.

We are starting to see that already with some of the recent Asian-Americans that have broken out into the entertainment industry, but us as Asian-Americans (some of us in here that do have kids, I don't though).......we have to continue building on that growth and continue to encourage our kids/future kids to pursue their dreams to that we will eventually stand on-par with all the other ethnicities that currently influence American culture.

That being said......I do think the "Kpop BOOM" is actually working against Asian-Americans trying to make it big in America.

Mostly because it is convincing young Asian-Americans that IT IS MORE SUCCESSFUL TO BE A PERFORMER IN KOREA/JAPAN/CHINA than it is to in America.

 

[equality]

THIS

If we want to start getting more of our people into popular culture, we COLLECTIVELY have to start encouraging the future generation as Asian-Americans to pursue things arts and things they're passionate about BESIDES the usual engineering and healthcare fields that previous generation of Asian parents pressure our generation to do.

We are starting to see that already with some of the recent Asian-Americans that have broken out into the entertainment industry, but us as Asian-Americans (some of us in here that do have kids, I don't though).......we have to continue building on that growth and continue to encourage our kids/future kids to pursue their dreams to that we will eventually stand on-par with all the other ethnicities that currently influence American culture.

That being said......I do think the "Kpop BOOM" is actually working against Asian-Americans trying to make it big in America.

Mostly because it is convincing young Asian-Americans that IT IS MORE SUCCESSFUL TO BE A PERFORMER IN KOREA/JAPAN/CHINA than it is to in America.

Yep. There's a book written by someone who took care of elderly who have limited time left on Earth, and a common regret all of them had was not pursuing things they were passionate about and making sacrifices to live a stable life that society has deemed safe.

Asian families are notorious for this. It comes from a good place, but if the purpose in life is tolive a happy and fulfilling one then it's really hurting the younger generation.

The Kpop thing is interesting. I know a few people who grew up in Western society but returned to Asia because they'd have no chance making it in the entertainment industry here. Sadly, the odds are stacked way against us in pop culture and athletics. This is why someone like Jeremy Lin is so important. One downside I can see of Kpop blowing up is the affirmation of negative Asian stereotypes - effeminate/soft etc etc. I know a lot of girls go crazy over them and I have a ton of respect for what they're doing, butt it's definitely something to think about.

 

[slighted]

Went to a huge Tet party today
I've never dated within my ethnicity, but I may be all in now

 

[QU!K]

Went to a huge Tet party today
I've never dated within my ethnicity, but I may be all in now

Watch out for the crazies

 

[anderson]

Went to a huge Tet party today
I've never dated within my ethnicity, but I may be all in now

how do you not like vietnamese girls..

 

[beacon ave south]

how do you not like vietnamese girls..

Most of the time Tammy, Linda, and Kim are superficial asf. Gucci bag and fake **** is at the top of the list.

Of course not all of them are like that.

 

[wuchi01]

Interesting. Doesn't appeal to me, and honestly looks like the type of movie that might bomb, but still cool that it's being done at least I guess.

I was thinking it's kinda interesting that Asian Americans haven't made much impact on American popular culture. Asians have, but it's imported.

Movies, shows, and music from Korea are pretty popular in America, and Anime and fashion from Japan is pretty popular as well.

Hopefully more Asian Americans can get into the arts and start shifting popular culture. I think they might. We have a lot of people now who grew up poor with immigrant parents who went into more steady, reliable careers. I think the luxury of growing up middle/upper class for this next generation might lead to more kids into the arts and sports.

True, big budget Hollywood films are still a nonexistent outlier. That movie based on book and there are well known Asian authors interesting to read from.
One other important popular culture medium to keep in mind (especially for the younger crowd) is social media. Personally do not use many of the programs, but Youtube and other video platforms are a favorite. Must subscribe to a ton of Asian hosted or info channels.

 

[bigjny88]

The Kpop thing is interesting. I know a few people who grew up in Western society but returned to Asia because they'd have no chance making it in the entertainment industry here. Sadly, the odds are stacked way against us in pop culture and athletics. This is why someone like Jeremy Lin is so important. One downside I can see of Kpop blowing up is the affirmation of negative Asian stereotypes - effeminate/soft etc etc. I know a lot of girls go crazy over them and I have a ton of respect for what they're doing, butt it's definitely something to think about.

I only mentioned the Kpop thing due to the fact I see a good number of Korean-American and/or Korean-Canadian individuals that are currently kpop idols/artists over there.

Two kpop idols in particular actually have the vocal talent that could have had the potential to make a break in the US.

Google up Ailee and Eric Nam, the former Ailee originally started out as an underground R&B artist in the NY/upper Jersey area on YouTube........and Ailee even did an amateur showcase on the Maury show at one point trying to get herself a US record deal (never happened obviously, she's now a kpop idol). The latter Eric Nam, an ATL native, he's been trying to slide himself into a few collabs with some Western R&B and/or hip hop artists lately like Gallant, an on-the-rise R&B artist from the DC area.

But both of those Korean-Americans ended up going to Korea b/c they saw it as "quicker opportunity" to get their talent noticed in comparison to here in America.

Unfortunately like I said before, this only helps reinforce the notion to future Asian-Americans with musical or entertainment aspirations that you are better off "GOING TO THE MOTHERLAND" to fulfill your wishes instead of trying to hustle & grind it out here on the American soil that they were born on.

 

[QU!K]

Anyone watch this?

 

[frink85]

Unfortunately like I said before, this only helps reinforce the notion to future Asian-Americans with musical or entertainment aspirations that you are better off "GOING TO THE MOTHERLAND" to fulfill your wishes instead of trying to hustle & grind it out here on the American soil that they were born on.

It's kind of a vicious cycle IMO, now that the kpop artists are huge worldwide if you look like them youll get pigeonholed or not taken seriously. Like, Jin has talent he killed Freestyle Friday but I'm 100% he was viewed as a sideshow. I have API friends in music, they're still trying to grind and make it here but you gotta pay bills too.

It goes back to the point that AAs arent visible in Hollywood/media and these music/movie studios don't take risks.

 

[anderson]

Most of the time Tammy, Linda, and Kim are superficial asf. Gucci bag and fake **** is at the top of the list.

Of course not all of them are like that.

Tammy, Linda, Kim Don't forget Jessica too.

I don't even bother with asian girls that are high maintenance as ****. That's an easy pass for me, I like those asian girls with the bubbly personality that's gonna cook and take care of me.

 

[wuchi01]

Anyone watch this?

That movie trailer looked pretty good.
Will look now. Good find. Thx.

 

[tokes99]

It's kind of a vicious cycle IMO, now that the kpop artists are huge worldwide if you look like them youll get pigeonholed or not taken seriously. Like, Jin has talent he killed Freestyle Friday but I'm 100% he was viewed as a sideshow. I have API friends in music, they're still trying to grind and make it here but you gotta pay bills too.

It goes back to the point that AAs arent visible in Hollywood/media and these music/movie studios don't take risks.

while i don't want to go as far as saying representation in media doesn't matter, but it's waaaaay overrated i think...if you think about, many immigrant families want their kids to pursue professions, where there also may not be a lot of diversity/representation, but there is a (the perception anyways) objective high likelihood of success if you put in the work.

the arts/media doesn't work like that, you either have to put yourself on by making your own ting or hope to be 'chose' in a HIGHLY subjective competitive space...and so many things have to go right in both situations. you mention jin, it may have been true that he was viewed as a sideshow, but it is definitely true that despite his technical ability (which many freestyle spitters have difficulty making the transition to making mainstream music, it is a totally different skillset) none of his songs really popped; quite a few artists have been able make a career off being a 'sideshow,' it isn't necessarily a negative...in fact most times it at least gets the attention that often is the biggest struggle to even get

all business is kinda risk management, hollywood isn't any different; that said i don't necessarily think it is even looked at as a risk moreso that it isn't the 'norm' for people in decision making positions, how many times have we seen well made/or just interesting 'risks' be successful...the lack of representation does become a chicken & egg situation tho, where because people don't see people that look like them in certain professions, they don't pursue those professions

ultimately, that there is a person already doing something similar is the only representation that really matters; doesn't mean that is will be easy or that there isn't going to be bias involved...

 

[shogun]

We need more movies like this.

 

[Xennial]

Technically the 1st film of the F&F Universe aka the greatest movie franchise

We need more movies like this.

 

[slighted]

Watch out for the crazies

how do you not like vietnamese girls..

I've dealt with mostly crazy ones my entire life (mom, aunts, cousins).
My destiny is probably in the Westminster / UC Irvine area.

 

[wuchi01]

 

[slighted]

So I'm getting more involved in the local group.
Most folks in it are straight from Vietnam, going to college here.
It's tough to communicate with them because I'm not fluent + was born in America.
My fam always told me these are the kids of wealthy folks back from the homeland.

Their mannerisms are very different too -- very compliant, almost soft.

 

[QU!K]

So I'm getting more involved in the local group.
Most folks in it are straight from Vietnam, going to college here.
It's tough to communicate with them because I'm not fluent + was born in America.
My fam always told me these are the kids of wealthy folks back from the homeland.

Their mannerisms are very different too -- very compliant, almost soft.

Have you been to the homeland doggy?

 

[slighted]

^ Yeah, only once when I was 14yo
Don't think I had the maturity to appreciate it all, but definitely loved the food

Will go back next year
Probably fall in love with a shorty who's looking for a way to America

 

[anderson]

Probably fall in love with a shorty who's looking for a way to America

Major turnoff for me is a thick Vietnamese accent.

 

[QU!K]

^ Yeah, only once when I was 14yo
Don't think I had the maturity to appreciate it all, but definitely loved the food

Will go back next year
Probably fall in love with a shorty who's looking for a way to America

Let me know if you go, I'll show you some spots