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These atheists have obviously been blessed by God with the patience to deal with mister friendly.
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What you talking about?
Where am I mincing your words?
Where am I slandering as you've said in a later post?
Do you realize where Communism came from?
Do you realize that the Cuban revolution came after Stalin's attempted removal of religion?
So Castro had a general idea of what he couldn't do in regards to religion?
You say Stalin wasn't the face of communism... as if there's one face to any form of government.
Stalin was the first leader able to practice the Communist philosophies on a large scale over a long period of time.
It probably safe to say other Communist leaders may learned some of his missteps.
The communism atheists tried remove religion from society but it did not work.
They realized it was stupid to try to get rid of religion.
By me saying that religion wouldn't be "this widespread" without conquest, it doesn't insinuate that I believe that religion is "only" spread through force or conquest.
That's how you're mincing my words.
Again stop misrepresenting my thoughts to prop up your nonsense. Your slander of atheists is transparent with your line of questioning, loaded and condescending from the get go.
I absolutely know where communism came from, and it didn't come from Joseph Stalin. It was Karl Marx who is the father of MODERN communism but even still, we see today that communism necessarily correlate with atheism. To lump them together is to paint with an awfully broad brush.
Even Marx conceded that primitive man, hunter-gather societies had communist ideals.
Plato ruminated on a classless society.
Look up the Mazdak movement in 5th century Persia.
Did you know that there is a RELIGIOUS communism?
The Diggers were a protestant communist movement, in 17th century England.
No not every communist nation gleaned ideas from Stalin, stop trying to force that angle into the discussion. It's simply not true. You can throw all the half-baked assertions you want together, but they will not give your argument any credence.
Communism =/= atheism, period.
These atheists have obviously been blessed by God with the patience to deal with mister friendly.
Religion and culture are very much intertwined. Send proof that the "prophet" tried to eradicate slavery, cause I've read the Koran and slavery is as common place as herding cows and sheep.
It's not Islam, it's culture....LULZ
Religion and culture are very much intertwined. Send proof that the "prophet" tried to eradicate slavery, cause I've read the Koran and slavery is as common place as herding cows and sheep.
It's not Islam, it's culture....LULZ
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Homosexuals killed, let them do their thing huh? Not one Soul amongst your supposedly righteous and non-evil religion thinks this is wrong huh? You want to put up this front of neutrality in the face of evil. You're no different from the people who put the noose on.
Yea blame is on "human element" when it is convenient. The bible doesn't justify slavery based on race either, but it does based on religion. Same with Islam, people who are not Muslim (at the time many of whom were Africans) were not considered human and that was justification enough for slavery. Allah throughout the Koran encouraged enslavement of kafirs and the infidels.
Another typical excuse I've heard from both MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS, is the treatment of said slaves?
Muslim: "Just because Americans treated their slaves bad, doesn't mean slavery is wrong. We kept our slaves clothed and well fed"
Listen to how you people sound.
We're not talking about "all types of people", Christians have already gotten their turn. Own up to the mistakes of YOUR people instead of being more defensive than a Hillbilly from Mississippi.
I see some discussion on Islam here. I was raised Muslim but denounced religion all together in my early 20s. lionblood , you need to differentiate between the patriarchal customs/system of a culture and religion. I see you generalizing quite a bit.
Youre the propoganda that spews hate of an entire religion! There are over 1.57 billion Muslims on the planet. LOL focus on the few
Why are you deflecting to slavery based on skin color, slavery is slavery whether its based on race or religion or ethnic group. The infidels and kafirs were different, so it was ok to treat them like property in God's eyes.
Condescending line of questioning. Loaded questioning?
I think you may be in your feels. They are just questions.
There have been no slander towards atheists.
Good, you know where Communism comes from?
You realize Karl Marx was an atheist and was critical of religion. Lenin and other members of his party studied Marx. Some of the party members interpreted Marx writings as anti-religion and thought religious beliefs needed to renounce to be an effective party member. One of those [party members of Lenin's party was Stalin.
Stalin took over after Lenin's short rule.
Stalin was the first leader able to practice Communist party ideals. One of those ideals was atheism and Marxism was inseparable.
Atheists when you're in pain( depressed or diesase) why not kill yourself?
It could end the pain, so you can get to eventually nothingness
Atheists why don't you try to be immoral as possible?
Who are you having morals for?
Your fellow man?
No seriously though?
Why be a good person?
I understand you need some relationships but past that..why?
I'm not saying commit crimes and all that but why not do anything you want up until that point?
Condescending line of questioning. Loaded questioning?
I think you may be in your feels. They are just questions.
There have been no slander towards atheists.
Good, you know where Communism comes from?
You realize Karl Marx was an atheist and was critical of religion. Lenin and other members of his party studied Marx. Some of the party members interpreted Marx writings as anti-religion and thought religious beliefs needed to renounce to be an effective party member. One of those [party members of Lenin's party was Stalin.
Stalin took over after Lenin's short rule.
Stalin was the first leader able to practice Communist party ideals. One of those ideals was atheism and Marxism was inseparable.
They are definitely not just "questions".
Exhibit A.
Atheists when you're in pain( depressed or diesase) why not kill yourself?
It could end the pain, so you can get to eventually nothingness
Exhibit B.
Atheists why don't you try to be immoral as possible?
Exhibit C.
Who are you having morals for?
Your fellow man?
Exhibit D.
No seriously though?
Why be a good person?
I understand you need some relationships but past that..why?
I'm not saying commit crimes and all that but why not do anything you want up until that point?
And that's just a small sampling of your condescending, loaded line of questioning. I have no desire to go through all your drivel.
Atheism and marxism are not inseparable. No matter how badly you want them to be.
There is CHRISTIAN communism. FACT. Marx was the father of modern communism but not every communist agreed with marxist atheism.
Especially in Latin America, especially in Asia.
They all embrace his economic views, but to say that communism = atheism is ignorant and only a half-truth, whole lie.
Those questions are not meant to be loaded or condescending by any stretch.
The exhibit A about atheists killing themselves was a fair question, if the person is in pain especially in a terminal case, why not end the suffering? I know reasons why a believer would want not commit suicide, because most religions are against it as far as I know. The atheist really only has himself to answer.
Exhibit B and C back into each other and they are fair questions. The atheist only has to answer to himself and the punishable laws of society. Morals are relative.relative. Theres no absolute morals. The question remains, who is the atheist having morals for? Society? Do they fear societies "wrath" of shame?
Exhibt D is fair question too. What is good or bad? Is there an absolute right or wrong? As atheist aren't you really only accountable to yourself?
"Atheism is a natural and inseparable part of Marxism, of the theory and practice of scientific Socialism."
Those are Lenin's own words. The father of Communism.
Of course not every Communist agrees with Marx, just as not every Believers agrees with the zealous sects of their religion.
But if some people want act like some=all. we can pull the card with other beliefs and ideologies too.