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Originally Posted by JD617
After Shaq left Orlando, Penny won one more playoff series the rest of his career
That's still more than anything TMac has won
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Originally Posted by JD617
After Shaq left Orlando, Penny won one more playoff series the rest of his career
and that was with Jason Kidd in his prime against a Spurs team that lost Duncan for the season a few weeks before the playoffs started.
and that was with Jason Kidd in his prime against a Spurs team that lost Duncan for the season a few weeks before the playoffs started.
Stick to your Rose is MVP because he plays with garbage buffoonery.Originally Posted by amel223
Originally Posted by JD617
After Shaq left Orlando, Penny won one more playoff series the rest of his career
That's still more than anything TMac has won
Stick to your Rose is MVP because he plays with garbage buffoonery.Originally Posted by amel223
Originally Posted by JD617
After Shaq left Orlando, Penny won one more playoff series the rest of his career
That's still more than anything TMac has won
Originally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams
Originally Posted by anotherprodigy
I agree that Penny was either the team you build around or a pivotal piece in a championship team. He couldve gotten a title with Yao. Mcgrady could not get out of the 1st round. Dont misconstrue this as me bashing Mcgrady. People in my neighborhood stopped listening to me when I said he was a better prospect than VC back in their TO days. The problem was he had all-around skills but seemed to always exert himself one-dimensionally when he was the star of a team.Penny couldn't even get a title with Shaq.
Originally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams
Originally Posted by anotherprodigy
I agree that Penny was either the team you build around or a pivotal piece in a championship team. He couldve gotten a title with Yao. Mcgrady could not get out of the 1st round. Dont misconstrue this as me bashing Mcgrady. People in my neighborhood stopped listening to me when I said he was a better prospect than VC back in their TO days. The problem was he had all-around skills but seemed to always exert himself one-dimensionally when he was the star of a team.Penny couldn't even get a title with Shaq.
Originally Posted by anotherprodigy
Originally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams
Originally Posted by anotherprodigy
I agree that Penny was either the team you build around or a pivotal piece in a championship team. He couldve gotten a title with Yao. Mcgrady could not get out of the 1st round. Dont misconstrue this as me bashing Mcgrady. People in my neighborhood stopped listening to me when I said he was a better prospect than VC back in their TO days. The problem was he had all-around skills but seemed to always exert himself one-dimensionally when he was the star of a team.Penny couldn't even get a title with Shaq.
The 1st round was a breeze though.
Sidenote-Nobody in my school's gym knew who Tyreke Evans is...not even dudes on the Men's team. Is this common? Do people even follow basketball anymore or just play it.
Originally Posted by anotherprodigy
Originally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams
Originally Posted by anotherprodigy
I agree that Penny was either the team you build around or a pivotal piece in a championship team. He couldve gotten a title with Yao. Mcgrady could not get out of the 1st round. Dont misconstrue this as me bashing Mcgrady. People in my neighborhood stopped listening to me when I said he was a better prospect than VC back in their TO days. The problem was he had all-around skills but seemed to always exert himself one-dimensionally when he was the star of a team.Penny couldn't even get a title with Shaq.
The 1st round was a breeze though.
Sidenote-Nobody in my school's gym knew who Tyreke Evans is...not even dudes on the Men's team. Is this common? Do people even follow basketball anymore or just play it.
Rose is MVPOriginally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams
Rose is MVPOriginally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams
Oh. Glad you agree.Originally Posted by amel223
Rose is MVPOriginally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams
Oh. Glad you agree.Originally Posted by amel223
Rose is MVPOriginally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams
Easy to make an assumption about the past after you get all the info about dude a decade later. T-Mac got it done on the court when he was healthy and no one criticized him about his "laziness" back then. Everyone should just be Kobe fans if all that "fire" %@% off the court was the determining factor. I don't need to see T-Mac practice jumpers after a loss to know he works on his game now that his legs are gone. The fact that he can still contribute on the Pistons is proving the haters like you wrong and that he does work on his game to adjust.Originally Posted by bob4rmmarketing
THIS I think Penny is the leader of the Magic after Shaq left even though he never played a full season to lead anything.Originally Posted by amel223
Oh. Glad you agree.
But anyway, I just don't get the infatuation with TMac. Not talking to just you, just anyone who liked him.
The man was so lazy off the court. His nickname, for crying out loud, was sleepy! Sleepy! He never stayed awake during film sessions. No one remembers that?
Also, about actual practice - he'd fully admitted "practice wasn't his thing." Furthermore, in offseasons, he admits to hardly ever touching the ball (I really wish I could find this article for you guys, I've been trying).
If Kobe was "fire," then TMac was just water - not the tsunami kind, the small tranquil kind that made up some obscure Lake that your lazy cousin swims at.
Even in his prime, before the injuries, when TMac was pulling 30 ppg off his *** - I fully believe that he was incapable of taking you the finals even with a championship contending supporting cast for this very reason.
It is impossible to have such a lazy player as your best player on a championship contending team.
Just imagine a hospital staff. As a nurse, or a doctor - how hard would you be motivated to work if your immediate supervisor didn't care? Exactly.
Easy to make an assumption about the past after you get all the info about dude a decade later. T-Mac got it done on the court when he was healthy and no one criticized him about his "laziness" back then. Everyone should just be Kobe fans if all that "fire" %@% off the court was the determining factor. I don't need to see T-Mac practice jumpers after a loss to know he works on his game now that his legs are gone. The fact that he can still contribute on the Pistons is proving the haters like you wrong and that he does work on his game to adjust.Originally Posted by bob4rmmarketing
THIS I think Penny is the leader of the Magic after Shaq left even though he never played a full season to lead anything.Originally Posted by amel223
Oh. Glad you agree.
But anyway, I just don't get the infatuation with TMac. Not talking to just you, just anyone who liked him.
The man was so lazy off the court. His nickname, for crying out loud, was sleepy! Sleepy! He never stayed awake during film sessions. No one remembers that?
Also, about actual practice - he'd fully admitted "practice wasn't his thing." Furthermore, in offseasons, he admits to hardly ever touching the ball (I really wish I could find this article for you guys, I've been trying).
If Kobe was "fire," then TMac was just water - not the tsunami kind, the small tranquil kind that made up some obscure Lake that your lazy cousin swims at.
Even in his prime, before the injuries, when TMac was pulling 30 ppg off his *** - I fully believe that he was incapable of taking you the finals even with a championship contending supporting cast for this very reason.
It is impossible to have such a lazy player as your best player on a championship contending team.
Just imagine a hospital staff. As a nurse, or a doctor - how hard would you be motivated to work if your immediate supervisor didn't care? Exactly.
Originally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams
Easy to make an assumption about the past after you get all the info about dude a decade later. T-Mac got it done on the court when he was healthy and no one criticized him about his "laziness" back then. Everyone should just be Kobe fans if all that "fire" %@% off the court was the determining factor. I don't need to see T-Mac practice jumpers after a loss to know he works on his game now that his legs are gone. The fact that he can still contribute on the Pistons is proving the haters like you wrong and that he does work on his game to adjust.Originally Posted by bob4rmmarketing
THIS I think Penny is the leader of the Magic after Shaq left even though he never played a full season to lead anything.Originally Posted by amel223
Oh. Glad you agree.
But anyway, I just don't get the infatuation with TMac. Not talking to just you, just anyone who liked him.
The man was so lazy off the court. His nickname, for crying out loud, was sleepy! Sleepy! He never stayed awake during film sessions. No one remembers that?
Also, about actual practice - he'd fully admitted "practice wasn't his thing." Furthermore, in offseasons, he admits to hardly ever touching the ball (I really wish I could find this article for you guys, I've been trying).
If Kobe was "fire," then TMac was just water - not the tsunami kind, the small tranquil kind that made up some obscure Lake that your lazy cousin swims at.
Even in his prime, before the injuries, when TMac was pulling 30 ppg off his *** - I fully believe that he was incapable of taking you the finals even with a championship contending supporting cast for this very reason.
It is impossible to have such a lazy player as your best player on a championship contending team.
Just imagine a hospital staff. As a nurse, or a doctor - how hard would you be motivated to work if your immediate supervisor didn't care? Exactly.
Originally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams
Easy to make an assumption about the past after you get all the info about dude a decade later. T-Mac got it done on the court when he was healthy and no one criticized him about his "laziness" back then. Everyone should just be Kobe fans if all that "fire" %@% off the court was the determining factor. I don't need to see T-Mac practice jumpers after a loss to know he works on his game now that his legs are gone. The fact that he can still contribute on the Pistons is proving the haters like you wrong and that he does work on his game to adjust.Originally Posted by bob4rmmarketing
THIS I think Penny is the leader of the Magic after Shaq left even though he never played a full season to lead anything.Originally Posted by amel223
Oh. Glad you agree.
But anyway, I just don't get the infatuation with TMac. Not talking to just you, just anyone who liked him.
The man was so lazy off the court. His nickname, for crying out loud, was sleepy! Sleepy! He never stayed awake during film sessions. No one remembers that?
Also, about actual practice - he'd fully admitted "practice wasn't his thing." Furthermore, in offseasons, he admits to hardly ever touching the ball (I really wish I could find this article for you guys, I've been trying).
If Kobe was "fire," then TMac was just water - not the tsunami kind, the small tranquil kind that made up some obscure Lake that your lazy cousin swims at.
Even in his prime, before the injuries, when TMac was pulling 30 ppg off his *** - I fully believe that he was incapable of taking you the finals even with a championship contending supporting cast for this very reason.
It is impossible to have such a lazy player as your best player on a championship contending team.
Just imagine a hospital staff. As a nurse, or a doctor - how hard would you be motivated to work if your immediate supervisor didn't care? Exactly.
Oh. Glad you agree.Originally Posted by amel223
Rose is MVPOriginally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams
Oh. Glad you agree.Originally Posted by amel223
Rose is MVPOriginally Posted by nicedudewithnicedreams
Do you want me to list his individual accomplishments for his career?Originally Posted by bob4rmmarketing
What did he get done?? When he was healthy, he thought his talent was enough to get him through. Wrong. He starts at point guard for a non-contender in the East that won't make the playoffs. He works on his game NOW because of his past injuries or else he isn't playing. Where was all this dedication when he was healthy? He's never had a decent work ethic. He's doing just what he was doing while he was on the Rockets, Magic and Raptors. Losing. I'm a T-Mac fan so this isn't hate but people should stop Stan-ing for him like he's accomplished that many things in his career besides a few scoring titles.
Do you want me to list his individual accomplishments for his career?Originally Posted by bob4rmmarketing
What did he get done?? When he was healthy, he thought his talent was enough to get him through. Wrong. He starts at point guard for a non-contender in the East that won't make the playoffs. He works on his game NOW because of his past injuries or else he isn't playing. Where was all this dedication when he was healthy? He's never had a decent work ethic. He's doing just what he was doing while he was on the Rockets, Magic and Raptors. Losing. I'm a T-Mac fan so this isn't hate but people should stop Stan-ing for him like he's accomplished that many things in his career besides a few scoring titles.