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It affects you too smart guy.Originally Posted by dmbrhs
I will Paypal $10 to anyone directly affected by this legislation. That's how not serious it is.Originally Posted by quik1987
I don't think people understand how serious this is.
No it doesn't. Just like the Patriot Act doesn't affect me. None of this stuff directly affects me. Therefore, I don't care.Originally Posted by StonedFace
It affects you too smart guy.Originally Posted by dmbrhs
I will Paypal $10 to anyone directly affected by this legislation. That's how not serious it is.Originally Posted by quik1987
I don't think people understand how serious this is.
ignorance is blissOriginally Posted by dmbrhs
No it doesn't. Just like the Patriot Act doesn't affect me. None of this stuff directly affects me. Therefore, I don't care.Originally Posted by StonedFace
It affects you too smart guy.Originally Posted by dmbrhs
I will Paypal $10 to anyone directly affected by this legislation. That's how not serious it is.
yet here you are.Originally Posted by dmbrhs
No it doesn't. Just like the Patriot Act doesn't affect me. None of this stuff directly affects me. Therefore, I don't care.Originally Posted by StonedFace
It affects you too smart guy.Originally Posted by dmbrhs
I will Paypal $10 to anyone directly affected by this legislation. That's how not serious it is.
alex jones drops a lot of info on his daily show which i go through myself to verifiy most of the times.....Originally Posted by odog24
Originally Posted by taymane23
I need links on where you found this infoOriginally Posted by devildog1776
The world is going into a state of emergency within the next 12-18 months... Just be prepared for anything and everything. This one world government isn't going to come by easy and they know it. Yes most Americans are so caught up in pop culture, sports, and whatever else is popping on TV that they don't even recognize the setup that's occurring.
-troops coming home to continue the war on terror
- eurozone being bailed out
- Russia and china lurking at sea backing Syria...
- occupy shut Down mad quick
Once this holiday season has passed we will see things turned up. A crisis is around the corner, just don't get caught slipping
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watch an alex jones documentary about the new world order and he talks about all this stuff
Third, I haven’t written about this bill until now for one reason: as odious and definitively radical as the powers are which this bill endorses, it doesn’t actually change the status quo all that much. That’s because the Bush and Obama administrations have already successfully claimed most of the powers in the bill, and courts have largely acquiesced. To be sure, there are dangers to having Congress formally codify these powers. But a powerful sign of how degraded our political culture has become is that this bill — which in any other time would be shockingly extremist — actually fits right in with who we are as a nation and what our political institutions are already doing. To be perfectly honest, I just couldn’t get myself worked up over a bill that, with some exceptions, does little more than formally recognize and codify what our Government is already doing.
http://www.salon.com/2011...on_a_new_aumf/singleton/
Originally Posted by FeedTheEgo1982
This isn't the first time in the last ten year habeas corpus has been suspended to deal with "outside" American threats. I am all for people staying up on topics that concern their future, but really, Everything will be everything in the end man. You need to worry about making yourself a better person, taking care of your family, and just generally taking care of yourself. If you do that, you will be fine. Lot of knowledgable people on here though, it's just nowadays, people are itching for an apolocalypse that just isn't coming guys. I'm not trying to offend anyone nor argue. I respect all of the posts here. Just my opinion, it I'm wrong. See y'all on the other side lol
Originally Posted by Mo Matik
From his wiki Cooper just seems like another paranoid old conspiracy theorist. He said that communism was going to take over all 50 states-is that the truth he got capped for? Alex Jones is not an academic, and imo is not a credible source of info. It's very indicative of his interests when every 15 minutes he's telling people to buy his CDs and what not. That doesn't mean he's entirely wrong-things are messed up in a very real way. But his analysis and perspective is just so extreme-there are many more balanced sources of info out there.
I'm happy to see people taking more of an interest in this legislation. But a lot of your fears I'm seeing are really unjustified, because the changes enacted in the legislation have been going on for a while now. That doesn't mean it should be taken lightly. Just that we should've taken exception to this crap a while ago. Greenwald explains:
Third, I haven’t written about this bill until now for one reason: as odious and definitively radical as the powers are which this bill endorses, it doesn’t actually change the status quo all that much. That’s because the Bush and Obama administrations have already successfully claimed most of the powers in the bill, and courts have largely acquiesced. To be sure, there are dangers to having Congress formally codify these powers. But a powerful sign of how degraded our political culture has become is that this bill — which in any other time would be shockingly extremist — actually fits right in with who we are as a nation and what our political institutions are already doing. To be perfectly honest, I just couldn’t get myself worked up over a bill that, with some exceptions, does little more than formally recognize and codify what our Government is already doing.
Originally Posted by aThievinGenIus
ignorance is blissOriginally Posted by dmbrhs
No it doesn't. Just like the Patriot Act doesn't affect me. None of this stuff directly affects me. Therefore, I don't care.Originally Posted by StonedFace
It affects you too smart guy.
None of this stuff directly affects me. Therefore, I don't care.
This "sheepish" (hate the term but not really sure how else to describe it) is exactly what is wrong with society. Just so we're clear, this effects every American. Whether or not you choose to acknowledge that is something else.
Also, please paypal me $10, because if this goes through I will be unable to freely voice my opinion on the failures of my government, while also being 100% safe from some type of legal convictions.
Originally Posted by G14
YOU'LL SOON UNDERSTAND
Originally Posted by dmbrhs
So don't be a terrorist. Problem solved.
Originally Posted by MF Doomer
This is illegitimate, fox news is nothing but propaganda.
Originally Posted by MasterChef
Originally Posted by G14
YOU'LL SOON UNDERSTAND
don't say vague ambiguous things without substance...
- (1) A person who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks.
seems really clear cut. Anyone who aided/abetted the 9/11 attacks and anyone aiding/abetting/associated with Al Qaeda/ Taliban.
- (2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.
Will it really be as easy as just saying "he/she is a terrorist" and then a black van comes out of nowhere and snatches them up? Once again, I'm really asking.