48÷2(9+3) = ???

[balloonoboy]

Originally Posted by waystinthyme

balloonoboy wrote:

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2g00d4u wrote:

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Of all the places I visited, only andantech (other than NT)  mentioned distribution.

Then this person came up with this:

You fools need to look up distributive property. The answer is 2.

The distributive property is simply multiplication in an expanded written form to, supposedly, allow for easier reading/understanding of what's going on. The reason you might incorrectly think that distribution holds a higher precedence in the order of operations is because it's only used by most people in algebra/geometry during high school and only taken to the extent of: 2x(4x + 7) + 8x^2(x -2) . As such, distribution for many may appear to be higher in the order of operations because 99% of the population only deals with it through adding/subtracting values that have been distributed (and multiplication is always performed before adding and subtracting). Distribution holds the same weight as multiplication in the order of operations because the distributive property is multiplication.

Also, whoever thinks there's something called an "implied parenthesis" is a fool. There's no such thing. There is an order of operations and there are parentheses.

The answer is 288.


This would make sense if the 2 wasn't infinitely a part of the parenthetical phrase. And where does it say that distribution is relegated to the M spot in PEMDAS?
you must have skipped the last sentence...please reread your own quoted source, which refutes your underlying argument.

-waystinthyme

  
What are you talking about? I posted charts and vids that all say a(b+c) = ab + ac always

My only problem now is if after the parenthesis is distributed does it remain a parenthesis. If this dude is right, who I have no idea he is, then the answer is 8.66667, since there are no implied parenthesis. If he's wrong, it's 2.

288 is out of the question.

 

[balloonoboy]

Originally Posted by waystinthyme

balloonoboy wrote:

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2g00d4u wrote:

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Of all the places I visited, only andantech (other than NT)  mentioned distribution.

Then this person came up with this:

You fools need to look up distributive property. The answer is 2.

The distributive property is simply multiplication in an expanded written form to, supposedly, allow for easier reading/understanding of what's going on. The reason you might incorrectly think that distribution holds a higher precedence in the order of operations is because it's only used by most people in algebra/geometry during high school and only taken to the extent of: 2x(4x + 7) + 8x^2(x -2) . As such, distribution for many may appear to be higher in the order of operations because 99% of the population only deals with it through adding/subtracting values that have been distributed (and multiplication is always performed before adding and subtracting). Distribution holds the same weight as multiplication in the order of operations because the distributive property is multiplication.

Also, whoever thinks there's something called an "implied parenthesis" is a fool. There's no such thing. There is an order of operations and there are parentheses.

The answer is 288.


This would make sense if the 2 wasn't infinitely a part of the parenthetical phrase. And where does it say that distribution is relegated to the M spot in PEMDAS?
you must have skipped the last sentence...please reread your own quoted source, which refutes your underlying argument.

-waystinthyme

  
What are you talking about? I posted charts and vids that all say a(b+c) = ab + ac always

My only problem now is if after the parenthesis is distributed does it remain a parenthesis. If this dude is right, who I have no idea he is, then the answer is 8.66667, since there are no implied parenthesis. If he's wrong, it's 2.

288 is out of the question.

 

[do work son]

lock this thread up. this is going no where. if the problem is meant to read (48/2)*(9+3) then the answer is 288. if it is meant to read 48/(2(9+3)) then the answer is 2.

the only real discrepancy is whether or not the (9+3) is apart of the denominator or not.

 

[stay lurkin]

^^And it doesn't check. Set it equal to 2 and it does -_-

 

[do work son]

lock this thread up. this is going no where. if the problem is meant to read (48/2)*(9+3) then the answer is 288. if it is meant to read 48/(2(9+3)) then the answer is 2.

the only real discrepancy is whether or not the (9+3) is apart of the denominator or not.

 

[vendetta]

The answer is two.

Now please lock this thread.

 

[hankmoody]

*Yes it is. I can only work on one subject at a time. Engrish next week!?

 

[hankmoody]

*Yes it is. I can only work on one subject at a time. Engrish next week!?

 

[optimusadl]

Originally Posted by balloonoboy

Originally Posted by 2g00d4u

Of all the places I visited, only andantech (other than NT)  mentioned distribution.

Then this person came up with this:

You fools need to look up distributive property. The answer is 2.

The distributive property is simply multiplication in an expanded written form to, supposedly, allow for easier reading/understanding of what's going on. The reason you might incorrectly think that distribution holds a higher precedence in the order of operations is because it's only used by most people in algebra/geometry during high school and only taken to the extent of: 2x(4x + 7) + 8x^2(x -2) . As such, distribution for many may appear to be higher in the order of operations because 99% of the population only deals with it through adding/subtracting values that have been distributed (and multiplication is always performed before adding and subtracting). Distribution holds the same weight as multiplication in the order of operations because the distributive property is multiplication.

Also, whoever thinks there's something called an "implied parenthesis" is a fool. There's no such thing. There is an order of operations and there are parentheses.

The answer is 288.

This would make sense if the 2 wasn't infinitely a part of the parenthetical phrase. And where does it say that distribution is relegated to the M spot in PEMDAS? I need a source.

Dude he is right. Once you simplify what's inside the parentheses then PEMDAS aka order of operations takes over again. You are trying to add a 2nd set of parentheses around "2(9+3)".
Multiplication is the inverse of Division

Addition is the inverse of Subtraction

 

[optimusadl]

Originally Posted by balloonoboy

Originally Posted by 2g00d4u

Of all the places I visited, only andantech (other than NT)  mentioned distribution.

Then this person came up with this:

You fools need to look up distributive property. The answer is 2.

The distributive property is simply multiplication in an expanded written form to, supposedly, allow for easier reading/understanding of what's going on. The reason you might incorrectly think that distribution holds a higher precedence in the order of operations is because it's only used by most people in algebra/geometry during high school and only taken to the extent of: 2x(4x + 7) + 8x^2(x -2) . As such, distribution for many may appear to be higher in the order of operations because 99% of the population only deals with it through adding/subtracting values that have been distributed (and multiplication is always performed before adding and subtracting). Distribution holds the same weight as multiplication in the order of operations because the distributive property is multiplication.

Also, whoever thinks there's something called an "implied parenthesis" is a fool. There's no such thing. There is an order of operations and there are parentheses.

The answer is 288.

This would make sense if the 2 wasn't infinitely a part of the parenthetical phrase. And where does it say that distribution is relegated to the M spot in PEMDAS? I need a source.

Dude he is right. Once you simplify what's inside the parentheses then PEMDAS aka order of operations takes over again. You are trying to add a 2nd set of parentheses around "2(9+3)".
Multiplication is the inverse of Division

Addition is the inverse of Subtraction

 

[vendetta]

The answer is two.

Now please lock this thread.

 

[waystinthyme]

Originally Posted by Boys Noize

Originally Posted by waystinthyme

Originally Posted by Boys Noize

2(9 + 3) is equivalent to (2 * 1(9 + 3)) which is the extended version. 2(9 + 3) is simplified. It's implied.

i love how the 2 crowd has to 'add' or 'imply' something to get their answer to work...

how about just doing the problem as it's written?

when i saw 48, i didn't 'imply' it was 96(1/2)...when i see 64, i don't imply it's 8^2, etc.

i looked at the problem and solved it as written. why can't you do the same?

-waystinthyme
  

Again, I didn't have to add anything 

 It's all there. If you can't see beyond the simplified forms of math equations, that is not anybody's issue but yours. It's all there in the original equation. 2(9+3) is and always will be the same as (2 * 1(9 + 3)). It's just extended.

Where as the only way for the answer to be 288 is to assume that 48 / 2 is (48 / 2).

If anything, you guys are the ones making things up 

64 will always be the same as 2x2x2x2x2x2...your point?

-waystinthyme
  

 

[waystinthyme]

Originally Posted by Boys Noize

Originally Posted by waystinthyme

Originally Posted by Boys Noize

2(9 + 3) is equivalent to (2 * 1(9 + 3)) which is the extended version. 2(9 + 3) is simplified. It's implied.

i love how the 2 crowd has to 'add' or 'imply' something to get their answer to work...

how about just doing the problem as it's written?

when i saw 48, i didn't 'imply' it was 96(1/2)...when i see 64, i don't imply it's 8^2, etc.

i looked at the problem and solved it as written. why can't you do the same?

-waystinthyme
  

Again, I didn't have to add anything 

 It's all there. If you can't see beyond the simplified forms of math equations, that is not anybody's issue but yours. It's all there in the original equation. 2(9+3) is and always will be the same as (2 * 1(9 + 3)). It's just extended.

Where as the only way for the answer to be 288 is to assume that 48 / 2 is (48 / 2).

If anything, you guys are the ones making things up 

64 will always be the same as 2x2x2x2x2x2...your point?

-waystinthyme
  

 

[snakeyes17]

Originally Posted by Boys Noize

Originally Posted by waystinthyme

Originally Posted by Boys Noize

2(9 + 3) is equivalent to (2 * 1(9 + 3)) which is the extended version. 2(9 + 3) is simplified. It's implied.

i love how the 2 crowd has to 'add' or 'imply' something to get their answer to work...

how about just doing the problem as it's written?

when i saw 48, i didn't 'imply' it was 96(1/2)...when i see 64, i don't imply it's 8^2, etc.

i looked at the problem and solved it as written. why can't you do the same?

-waystinthyme
  

Again, I didn't have to add anything 

 It's all there. If you can't see beyond the simplified forms of math equations, that is not anybody's issue but yours. It's all there in the original equation. 2(9+3) is and always will be the same as (2 * 1(9 + 3)). It's just extended.

Where as the only way for the answer to be 288 is to assume that 48 / 2 is (48 / 2).

If anything, you guys are the ones making things up 

No it isn't.
You're not looking the equation as is. How is taking it for face value making things up? You don't have to do (48 / 2)....it is given that that is performed before multiplaction due to the order of operations. 48/2 occurs before 2*12 would.

 

[snakeyes17]

Originally Posted by Boys Noize

Originally Posted by waystinthyme

Originally Posted by Boys Noize

2(9 + 3) is equivalent to (2 * 1(9 + 3)) which is the extended version. 2(9 + 3) is simplified. It's implied.

i love how the 2 crowd has to 'add' or 'imply' something to get their answer to work...

how about just doing the problem as it's written?

when i saw 48, i didn't 'imply' it was 96(1/2)...when i see 64, i don't imply it's 8^2, etc.

i looked at the problem and solved it as written. why can't you do the same?

-waystinthyme
  

Again, I didn't have to add anything 

 It's all there. If you can't see beyond the simplified forms of math equations, that is not anybody's issue but yours. It's all there in the original equation. 2(9+3) is and always will be the same as (2 * 1(9 + 3)). It's just extended.

Where as the only way for the answer to be 288 is to assume that 48 / 2 is (48 / 2).

If anything, you guys are the ones making things up 

No it isn't.
You're not looking the equation as is. How is taking it for face value making things up? You don't have to do (48 / 2)....it is given that that is performed before multiplaction due to the order of operations. 48/2 occurs before 2*12 would.

 

[2g00d4u]

Originally Posted by balloonoboy

Originally Posted by 2g00d4u

Of all the places I visited, only andantech (other than NT)  mentioned distribution.

Then this person came up with this:

You fools need to look up distributive property. The answer is 2.

The distributive property is simply multiplication in an expanded written form to, supposedly, allow for easier reading/understanding of what's going on. The reason you might incorrectly think that distribution holds a higher precedence in the order of operations is because it's only used by most people in algebra/geometry during high school and only taken to the extent of: 2x(4x + 7) + 8x^2(x -2) . As such, distribution for many may appear to be higher in the order of operations because 99% of the population only deals with it through adding/subtracting values that have been distributed (and multiplication is always performed before adding and subtracting). Distribution holds the same weight as multiplication in the order of operations because the distributive property is multiplication.

Also, whoever thinks there's something called an "implied parenthesis" is a fool. There's no such thing. There is an order of operations and there are parentheses.

The answer is 288.

This would make sense if the 2 wasn't infinitely a part of the parenthetical phrase. And where does it say that distribution is relegated to the M spot in PEMDAS? I need a source.
I dont know. I posted that to see what the thoughts are for those that answered 2.

Im still sticking with 288. I just dont see why theres a need to distribute.

To me, or at least from what I learned 2(12) means 2*12.

so 48/2*12 and from left to right, =288

 

[dmbrhs]

Originally Posted by acidicality

Originally Posted by HankMoody

Originally Posted by BLADE BR0WN


This is not the way the question is written tho, that's the problem...

Yes is it!!!

Exactly.

I thought we had too many Asians on NT....maybe not, after seeing this thread.

If there is a god, this comment will take this thread in a much more fun direction.

 

[2g00d4u]

Originally Posted by balloonoboy

Originally Posted by 2g00d4u

Of all the places I visited, only andantech (other than NT)  mentioned distribution.

Then this person came up with this:

You fools need to look up distributive property. The answer is 2.

The distributive property is simply multiplication in an expanded written form to, supposedly, allow for easier reading/understanding of what's going on. The reason you might incorrectly think that distribution holds a higher precedence in the order of operations is because it's only used by most people in algebra/geometry during high school and only taken to the extent of: 2x(4x + 7) + 8x^2(x -2) . As such, distribution for many may appear to be higher in the order of operations because 99% of the population only deals with it through adding/subtracting values that have been distributed (and multiplication is always performed before adding and subtracting). Distribution holds the same weight as multiplication in the order of operations because the distributive property is multiplication.

Also, whoever thinks there's something called an "implied parenthesis" is a fool. There's no such thing. There is an order of operations and there are parentheses.

The answer is 288.

This would make sense if the 2 wasn't infinitely a part of the parenthetical phrase. And where does it say that distribution is relegated to the M spot in PEMDAS? I need a source.
I dont know. I posted that to see what the thoughts are for those that answered 2.

Im still sticking with 288. I just dont see why theres a need to distribute.

To me, or at least from what I learned 2(12) means 2*12.

so 48/2*12 and from left to right, =288

 

[dmbrhs]

Originally Posted by acidicality

Originally Posted by HankMoody

Originally Posted by BLADE BR0WN


This is not the way the question is written tho, that's the problem...

Yes is it!!!

Exactly.

I thought we had too many Asians on NT....maybe not, after seeing this thread.

If there is a god, this comment will take this thread in a much more fun direction.

 

[Betonblck]

Originally Posted by do work son

lock this thread up. this is going no where. if the problem is meant to read (48/2)*(9+3) then the answer is 288. if it is meant to read 48/(2(9+3)) then the answer is 2.

the only real discrepancy is whether or not the (9+3) is apart of the denominator or not.

No, we lock this up after the 2's are proven right.

Team #2 checking in. 

 

[Betonblck]

Originally Posted by do work son

lock this thread up. this is going no where. if the problem is meant to read (48/2)*(9+3) then the answer is 288. if it is meant to read 48/(2(9+3)) then the answer is 2.

the only real discrepancy is whether or not the (9+3) is apart of the denominator or not.

No, we lock this up after the 2's are proven right.

Team #2 checking in. 

 

[hankmoody]

Originally Posted by dmbrhs

Originally Posted by acidicality

Originally Posted by HankMoody

Originally Posted by BLADE BR0WN


This is not the way the question is written tho, that's the problem...

Yes is it!!!

Exactly.

I thought we had too many Asians on NT....maybe not, after seeing this thread.

If there is a god, this comment will take this thread in a much more fun direction.

I already corrected myself

 

[waystinthyme]

Originally Posted by balloonoboy

Originally Posted by waystinthyme

balloonoboy wrote:

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This would make sense if the 2 wasn't infinitely a part of the parenthetical phrase. And where does it say that distribution is relegated to the M spot in PEMDAS?

you must have skipped the last sentence...please reread your own quoted source, which refutes your underlying argument.

-waystinthyme

  

What are you talking about? I posted charts and vids that all say a(b+c) = ab + ac always

My only problem now is if after the parenthesis is distributed does it remain a parenthesis. If this dude is right, who I have no idea he is, then the answer is 8.66667, since there are no implied parenthesis. If he's wrong, it's 2.

288 is out of the question.
you're comparing applies to oranges.

(b+c) can't be simplified...

(9+3) can...

in the former situation, you distribute, because you can't simplify the terms inside of the parentheses...

in the latter, you add the terms in the parentheses, then complete the rest of the equation according to PEMDAS.

-waystinthyme

  

 

[hankmoody]

Originally Posted by dmbrhs

Originally Posted by acidicality

Originally Posted by HankMoody

Originally Posted by BLADE BR0WN


This is not the way the question is written tho, that's the problem...

Yes is it!!!

Exactly.

I thought we had too many Asians on NT....maybe not, after seeing this thread.

If there is a god, this comment will take this thread in a much more fun direction.

I already corrected myself

 

[balloonoboy]

Now I see why the other thread was locked. This is going nowhere fast.

Someone refutes someone else, ad infinitum.