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The NFL was founded in 1920..
So at what point exactly are we starting with this whole undefeated pro vs amateur thing?
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The NFL was founded in 1920..
So at what point exactly are we starting with this whole undefeated pro vs amateur thing?
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I actually want a breakdown of what Jalen Hurts would or could do to the Browns
Detox dropping before that happens
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And teams throw away draft picks all the damn time.. have entire draft classes that are wasted.. have years after years of draft classes that are wasted
Alabama, Ohio state and Miami.. and college team, don't have that problem
2016-17 Alabama will have 7-9 dudes selected in the 1st round alone
Next draft the other tackle on the team is rated higher than cam Robinson.. there are multiple other guys who will go in the 1st
I didn't even touch the 2nd or even get drafted
In the history of the NFL and NBA you expect every single team they have ever had to go without losing ever vs any team considered amateur?
The 2012 Bobcats that only won 7 games, for example.. or what about teams from the 40s-50s in either sport
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Only thing imma add to this college or pro debate from a football point of view is #collegekickers is a real thing.
Off of special teams alone I'm giving any college team no chance against a pro team.
Off of special teams alone I'm giving any college team no chance against a pro team.
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No one gives a **** about 1920 famb
We're talking about modern day football
What date do you conveniently want to start the conversation?
Were those teams back then not "pro" teams?
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You keep bringing up this year's Bama team when they couldn't even win their own national title, I can tell you're just trolling at this point.
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No one gives a **** about 1920 famb
We're talking about modern day football
What date do you conveniently want to start the conversation?
Were those teams back then not "pro" teams?
I don't give a flying **** about that era.
70s and beyond is all that matters
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Browns special teams last year was basically a college team..
Those taking the pro team side, have to take every single team ever.. pick the worst of the worst and find a way to defend them vs
College teams who can stack their teams however they want as long as they can get the kids to come in
We now have the great fortune of seeing how great some of these teams were and the level of talent that we're present upon them
I will bet everything I have that the '01 canes would win at least 1 game vs a pro NFL team that has existed since the NFL was founded
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Not with Ken Dorsey at QB
I have two degrees from the U of Miami and even I can't agree with this
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1 game..
I've played and watched enough sports in my time on this earth to realize shh happens
There is a reason the phrase "any given Sunday" is used regarding the NFL
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The Browns, last season started a 3rd round rookie for the majority of their games..
I have 40 years to work with based on what you said.. that is just last season of crappy teams
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It's used regarding NFL vs. NFL teams
I'm sorry, there are levels to this ****.
It's like a law student going up against an attorney in court, who wins?
The attorney.
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Saying it's basically a college team doesn't make it a college team. Some factors I don't see you bringing up is 18 & 19 year olds lining up against grown *** men.
College team like Washington & Clemson had Hurts mind all the way ****** and tou think Alabama has enough talent to hide him against the Cleveland Browns? He has no chance You're outta your mind.
At this point I'm almost starting to think you don't even watch college football
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I can think of multiple students right now who would easily win vs multiple lawyers right now..
Every year my firm brings in multiple students who are far smarter than currently practicing attorneys
A ton of idiots pass the bar every year.. in multiple jurisdictions
A ton of idiots have made careers out of the profession
My firm excels off of the stupidity of these idiots.. simple stuff to get matters thrown out.. or missing dates.. our resources enable us to kill the average joe wannabe
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Getting pretty convenient before jumping to a grand conclusion
How many of these dudes are 18 & 19?
Is everyone on the team 18 & 19?
When does one become 'grown *** men'?
In the almost hundred years that the NFL has existed, what time frame are you conveniently using?
And just to refer to your comments.. I'm using very very simple logic that it's hard to go 1000%, which it is
Alabama not going undefeated last year doesn't change my argument, because I never stated they would go undefeated.. I simply believe they would win 1 game vs the worst of the worst of the worst
And I don't believe the '01 canes would win the super bowl.. I simply believe they would win 1 game vs any team that has ever existed within the NFL
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Here's a general thought. Just because someone is a professional doesn't make them automatically better then a amateur.
If that was the case every boxer would lose their first pro fight for example.
If that was the case every boxer would lose their first pro fight for example.
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Ledecky, Katie is a freshman in college.. greatest female distance swimmer ever.. getting very very very very close to greatest female swimmer ever, probably is.. argument could be made now
I said this.. now it's about team..
I don't think people are appreciating how bad some times truly are/were
And how stacked some teams are/were
'01 canes ain't about ken Dorsey.. it's having a stacked defense.. stacked Oline.. super duper RBs.. great TEs.. Dorsey not making mistakes.. and Andre Johnson
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Even then....they would lose
Because they're facing the best of the best
Because they're facing the best of the best
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A lot of 18 & 19 year olds play special teams.
A lot of NFL veterans stay in the league thru special teams.
I the difference between college & pro would immediately be see there.
A lot of NFL veterans stay in the league thru special teams.
I the difference between college & pro would immediately be see there.
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You're missing the point.. I'm talking singular greatest college team(s) ever vs the worst of the worst
Not the difference between a "college" team and a "pro" team
Also you might want to look up the average NFL career, since you're now throwing around the word veteran.. might want to check how long these vets are lasting
Also might want to check how a lot of rookies and 2nd year guys make teams and/or where they play their rookie years
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Let me chime in a bit...
The worst of the worst NFL team, technically, is still comprised of the best of the best college players. Of course, that assumes that every player that reaches the NFL is considered a really good player, and that even the best collegiate teams doesn't have the best of the best colllege players.
Bama, for example, as stacked as they are, is not comprised of 100 5-stars. The worst team last year, the Browns, have players (even those undrafted ones) who should be able to start and contribute in any college team.
That said, i'm with the guys who say 99.5% chance no college team beats any NFL team. Yeah i'll leave a 0.5% shot because they say nothing is impossible.
The worst of the worst NFL team, technically, is still comprised of the best of the best college players. Of course, that assumes that every player that reaches the NFL is considered a really good player, and that even the best collegiate teams doesn't have the best of the best colllege players.
Bama, for example, as stacked as they are, is not comprised of 100 5-stars. The worst team last year, the Browns, have players (even those undrafted ones) who should be able to start and contribute in any college team.
That said, i'm with the guys who say 99.5% chance no college team beats any NFL team. Yeah i'll leave a 0.5% shot because they say nothing is impossible.
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Let's clean this up. No college team could ever beat a NFL team from the same era.
Like the 01 Miami Hurricanes could never beat an NFL team from like 01-05 etc etc.
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