2011 Official Boxing Thread: 12/30 Jermain Taylor + Andre Dirrell return on ShoBox.

Originally Posted by JewSeeJay

/\ only b/c floyd is interesting... Anyone that really honestly believed sergio would beat manny or pbf is on drugs

Not sure if serious....it's a reason why those two dodge him
 
Originally Posted by JewSeeJay

/\ only b/c floyd is interesting... Anyone that really honestly believed sergio would beat manny or pbf is on drugs

Not sure if serious....it's a reason why those two dodge him
 
I think the reason why the dodge him is because Sergio is pretty much a Middleweight. He had fights at Super Welterweight. Hell, they talking about Hopkins fighting Martinez at 170. Sergio has a pretty big size advantage over the two.
 
I think the reason why the dodge him is because Sergio is pretty much a Middleweight. He had fights at Super Welterweight. Hell, they talking about Hopkins fighting Martinez at 170. Sergio has a pretty big size advantage over the two.
 
Originally Posted by Marvel Man X

I think the reason why the dodge him is because Sergio is pretty much a Middleweight. He had fights at Super Welterweight. Hell, they talking about Hopkins fighting Martinez at 170. Sergio has a pretty big size advantage over the two.

Martinez wants nothing to do with a true boxer like B-Hop.
That counter left hand will never touch B-Hop and he'll not be prepared for Hopkins straight right hand.
 
Originally Posted by Marvel Man X

I think the reason why the dodge him is because Sergio is pretty much a Middleweight. He had fights at Super Welterweight. Hell, they talking about Hopkins fighting Martinez at 170. Sergio has a pretty big size advantage over the two.

Martinez wants nothing to do with a true boxer like B-Hop.
That counter left hand will never touch B-Hop and he'll not be prepared for Hopkins straight right hand.
 
Barker fought a Joshua Clottey style fight. He was making it difficult for Sergio.
 
Barker fought a Joshua Clottey style fight. He was making it difficult for Sergio.
 
Originally Posted by CAFinest23

Originally Posted by Marvel Man X

I think the reason why the dodge him is because Sergio is pretty much a Middleweight. He had fights at Super Welterweight. Hell, they talking about Hopkins fighting Martinez at 170. Sergio has a pretty big size advantage over the two.

Martinez wants nothing to do with a true boxer like B-Hop.
That counter left hand will never touch B-Hop and he'll not be prepared for Hopkins straight right hand.
QFT

We all know styles make fights and B-Hop's style is all wrong for Sergio.  The amount of times he was getting tagged with Barker's jab tonight was ridiculous.  I know his defense isn't his strong suit but after tonight I don't blame him for not wanting to move up to Super Middleweight for a big payday.  He's not big enough and the thought of him getting tagged by a Super Middleweight with power
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Originally Posted by CAFinest23

Originally Posted by Marvel Man X

I think the reason why the dodge him is because Sergio is pretty much a Middleweight. He had fights at Super Welterweight. Hell, they talking about Hopkins fighting Martinez at 170. Sergio has a pretty big size advantage over the two.

Martinez wants nothing to do with a true boxer like B-Hop.
That counter left hand will never touch B-Hop and he'll not be prepared for Hopkins straight right hand.
QFT

We all know styles make fights and B-Hop's style is all wrong for Sergio.  The amount of times he was getting tagged with Barker's jab tonight was ridiculous.  I know his defense isn't his strong suit but after tonight I don't blame him for not wanting to move up to Super Middleweight for a big payday.  He's not big enough and the thought of him getting tagged by a Super Middleweight with power
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wow Sergio has no plan B.

HBO was blowing my mind with the commentating. Emmanuel Stewart kept trying to tell them that barker gameplan was great and the two idiots (Lampley and Merchant) kept dismissing him even LAUGHING at him. WHAT!!! HOW do they got the nerve to LAUGH at what Manny says about BOXING??????????

I had that fight 5-4 up until the KO and another Boxing guy who I converse with on the regular had it the same.

Sergio was EATING right hands like WOW.

There is No way Sergio beats Floyd, the only thing that might save him vs Pac is his length otherwise he's gonna be in trouble.
 
wow Sergio has no plan B.

HBO was blowing my mind with the commentating. Emmanuel Stewart kept trying to tell them that barker gameplan was great and the two idiots (Lampley and Merchant) kept dismissing him even LAUGHING at him. WHAT!!! HOW do they got the nerve to LAUGH at what Manny says about BOXING??????????

I had that fight 5-4 up until the KO and another Boxing guy who I converse with on the regular had it the same.

Sergio was EATING right hands like WOW.

There is No way Sergio beats Floyd, the only thing that might save him vs Pac is his length otherwise he's gonna be in trouble.
 
I saw the fight from round 6 on, missed alot of action. But I hate Martinez's hands down style, how you gonna have your hands down but barely move your head? Also, his corner sucks.

Anyone know what happened to Kellerman? Haven't seen him the last few fights. (not that I care)
 
I saw the fight from round 6 on, missed alot of action. But I hate Martinez's hands down style, how you gonna have your hands down but barely move your head? Also, his corner sucks.

Anyone know what happened to Kellerman? Haven't seen him the last few fights. (not that I care)
 
Another thing,
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Sergio wants Floyd and Pac to move up to face a middleweight but he isn't willing to move up the same type weight jump and face B-Hop.

WEAK!!!!
 
Another thing,
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Sergio wants Floyd and Pac to move up to face a middleweight but he isn't willing to move up the same type weight jump and face B-Hop.

WEAK!!!!
 
If you look at Martinez in this fight it's so easy to see he's a one dimensional fighter all he throws in straight jabs and straight lefts. Any real boxer knows when your opponent puts the "earmuffs" on like Barker did you attack the body, put rounds in the bank, and weaken the other fighter. Martinez did that maybe twice in the fight and got results everytime. Why he stopped I have no clue. Now his trainer Gunna is having legal problems in California and could not travel to AC for the fight. But I don't see Martinez as a fighter that will give a good boxer any trouble. He's very easy to solve and beat. If Martinez fought behind his jab (which does have some pop when he sits down on it) and learned how to defend with his hands up, and learned to throw hooks, and not fall completely off balance when he throws the stright left he'd be ok. But hey he did start boxing at 20 and if he fights a good ring general it will show very very quickly.
 
If you look at Martinez in this fight it's so easy to see he's a one dimensional fighter all he throws in straight jabs and straight lefts. Any real boxer knows when your opponent puts the "earmuffs" on like Barker did you attack the body, put rounds in the bank, and weaken the other fighter. Martinez did that maybe twice in the fight and got results everytime. Why he stopped I have no clue. Now his trainer Gunna is having legal problems in California and could not travel to AC for the fight. But I don't see Martinez as a fighter that will give a good boxer any trouble. He's very easy to solve and beat. If Martinez fought behind his jab (which does have some pop when he sits down on it) and learned how to defend with his hands up, and learned to throw hooks, and not fall completely off balance when he throws the stright left he'd be ok. But hey he did start boxing at 20 and if he fights a good ring general it will show very very quickly.
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Another thing,
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Sergio wants Floyd and Pac to move up to face a middleweight but he isn't willing to move up the same type weight jump and face B-Hop.

WEAK!!!!
Though he holds the lineal title, Sergio Martinez is not a middleweight. He's a good-sized 154lber.  With that said, Ex is a Light Heavy champ.  How are you comparing that jump to that of Pac/Floyd jumping to Jr. Middle, where both PBF and Pac won titles at?  Btw, Sergio agreed to a catch weight of 150.

IMO, the only way Sergio gets a shot at those two (and it would only happen after Pac-PBF) will be if he re-claims a piece of the 154 title. 

I'd love to see him fight the winner of Cotto/Margs II.
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Another thing,
30t6p3b.gif
Sergio wants Floyd and Pac to move up to face a middleweight but he isn't willing to move up the same type weight jump and face B-Hop.

WEAK!!!!
Though he holds the lineal title, Sergio Martinez is not a middleweight. He's a good-sized 154lber.  With that said, Ex is a Light Heavy champ.  How are you comparing that jump to that of Pac/Floyd jumping to Jr. Middle, where both PBF and Pac won titles at?  Btw, Sergio agreed to a catch weight of 150.

IMO, the only way Sergio gets a shot at those two (and it would only happen after Pac-PBF) will be if he re-claims a piece of the 154 title. 

I'd love to see him fight the winner of Cotto/Margs II.
 
bc Manny and floyd are 147 lbers.

Sergio is a Middleweight now.

Manny and Floyd would have to fight a guy 2 weight divisions heavier than them.

Bernard is a Light Heavy. two divisions heavier than Sergio.

If its so far - fetched for him to man up, why is he wanting other ppl to make the same jump

He says there's no fights for him, as if he's cleaned out the division he fights in.


Very good win for him last nite tho cus Barker wasnt a scrub.
 
bc Manny and floyd are 147 lbers.

Sergio is a Middleweight now.

Manny and Floyd would have to fight a guy 2 weight divisions heavier than them.

Bernard is a Light Heavy. two divisions heavier than Sergio.

If its so far - fetched for him to man up, why is he wanting other ppl to make the same jump

He says there's no fights for him, as if he's cleaned out the division he fights in.


Very good win for him last nite tho cus Barker wasnt a scrub.
 
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