2008 NT Boxing Post Vol. Oscar De La Hoya vs. Manny Pacquiao 12/6/08 HBO PPV

[gunna get it]

yea his resume is more than solid.
But how someone muster up the nerve to call themselves the G.O.A.T yet they aint fought the premiere guy who just happens to fight in that same weightclass?
HOW?
that !%** just irks me beyond belief.

 

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I don't think from here on out will ever make a run for G.O.A.T status. Boxing is just too different from its hey day.

Back in the day when they fought 15 rounders and %%%+

 

[mfr3shm]

Fightnews.com the first world heavyweight championship ever staged in Mexico will take place in Cancun's Plaza de Torros on March 8 when WBC heavyweight champion Oleg Maskaev makes the second defense of his title against WBC interim champion Samuel "The Nigerian Nightmare" Peter to determine the sole WBC heavyweight champion. Tickets priced at $1,000, $500, $300, $150, $100, $70, $50 and $10 are on sale now at Ticketmaster.

The co-feature undefeated IBF/WBA/WBO lightweight champion Juan "Baby Bull" Diaz

(33-0, 17 KOs) vs IBF mandatory Nate "Galaxxy Warrior" Campbell (31-5-1, 25 KOs). Both fights will be televised live in America on HBO.

Off TV bouts include former two-time WBA heavyweight champion John "The Quietman" Ruiz (42-7-1, 29 KOs) vs Jameel "Big Time" McCline (38-8-3, 23 KOs), and former two-time WBC lightweight champion Jose Luis Castillo (56-8-1, 48 KOs) vs undefeated Timothy Bradley (21-0, 11 KOs).
Can't wait to see Juan Diaz again

 

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Sam Peters is dirty. I like him to win.

Juan Diaz

I hope he gets a shot at Katsidis in the Fall

 

[bigmike23]

+!! Jose Luis Castillo is fighting again??

why

 

[mfr3shm]

Whether or not his opponent is Demetrius Hopkins, WBC light welterweight champion Junior Witter is planning to defend his title on the March 22 HBO card at the Morongo Casino in Cabazon, California. "If Hopkins can't fight that day then we'll fight someone else," Witter's trainer Dominic Ingle told Setanta Sports. "We've got our contract to fight that day with Golden Boy Promotions so that's all we're concentrating on." Hopkins revealed last week that he had not committed to challenging Witter and his new manager Cameron Dunkin stated he is exploring all options for Hopkins.


The Morongo card will also feature an interesting clash of interim lightweight champions. WBC interim lightweight titleholder Joel Casamayor faces WBO interim beltholder Michael Katsidis.
I hope Katsidis knocks out Casamayor.

Casamayor got a gift decision in his last fight in the Mosley-Cotto undercard.

 

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Castillo is fighting because he needs money

As much as I like Michael Katsidis, I don't think he is a lock to win it. Its more about Mike's lack of defense than Casamayor's ability.

 

[gunna get it]

Shannon

 

[ValarMorghulis]

Originally Posted by Stringer Bell 32

I found it

HAHA @ you putting me on blast like that. But i gotta defend myself, i love boxing at age 22 so i didn't get what Hearns embodied, just highlightsof the Hearns v. Leonard fight which is best fight hands down imo..... so i see Williams absolutely destroy Shamba last year(??) anyway I obvouslyOVERestimated Williams power and he got exposed bad. anyway still a fan he gotta hit that weight room

 

[bigmike23]

atleast you owned up like a man and not go running like half of NT does.

 

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Originally Posted by Bigmike23

atleast you owned up like a man and not go running like half of NT does.

Very true. No one has ever been wrong about anything ever in the Sports forum.

Anyways, ALOT of people over-estimated Paul's ability.

Hell, even Kellerman said that Paul was a threat to Floyd.

 

[dako akong otin]

I'm watching Quintana/Williams fight now in youtube. Williams just seems a step slower. He fires a lazy jab, Quintana counters it with 2-3 punches

 

[theprofessorofpugilism]

Castillo is fighting Timothy Bradley?!?! Damn Castillo has fallen from p4p top 10 fighter to gate keeper for young prospects. Castillo is shot and I thinkBradley wins a decision in the area of 116-112, 117-111.

And i also agree with String that Floyd has a plenty strong resume as it is. Also, i'm not so sure Miguel Cotto is the "premiere guy" ofFloyd's time. Diego Corrales achieved roughly the same stuff Cotto did, being a multi-division champion and beating some damn good fighters. JLC at 135 wasseverely underrated. From 98-2005 the only guy that beat him was Floyd. I just think that if/when Floyd fights and beats Cotto, that its not necessarily a lockthat cotto becomes the best name on his resume.

 

[shannonscrooks]

Gunna thanks for the avy, really appreciate it. Felt the need to give The Prince some shine as the sport definitley misses him.

Dan Rafael's latest blog, not sure it has been posted:

Your weekly random thoughts …

• You have to love the guts of Emanuel Steward, who trains and manages rising middleweight star Andy Lee (15-0, 12 KOs) of Ireland. He has as much faith in Lee as any young fighter he's ever been involved with. Steward has to be the only person ever to want one of his fighters to face Winky Wright, one of the best in the world, but a guy almost impossible to look good against and a guy whose only loss this decade was a competitive decision to light heavyweight champion Bernard Hopkins last summer. I was talking to Steward recently about upcoming fights involving two of his more accomplished boxers -- heavyweight titlist Wladimir Klitschko and welterweight beltholder Kermit Cintron -- when our discussion turned to Lee. We were talking about how good Lee looked during his fifth-round TKO of Alejandro Falliga a couple of weeks ago when Steward startled me by saying that after Lee faces Brian Vera on ESPN2 on March 21, he wants Wright. "I think he's the prefect fight for Andy. We have no fear," Steward said. OK, then. I doubt Wright would take that fight but it sure would be interesting if he did.

• As disappointing as a loss can be for the fighter, it can also drain a promoter. I actually feel bad for Dan Goossen, who has put a lot of time and effort into the career of Paul Williams. Goossen really believed he had something special in Williams and was extremely disappointed in his upset loss to Carlos Quintana on Saturday night. It was the second important fight that one of his boxers has lost in recent weeks. Heavyweight Eddie Chambers dropped a decision to Alexander Povetkin in Germany on Jan. 26 in a fight that earned the winner a title shot. When I spoke to Goossen on Monday morning, I felt a little like a bartender listening to a guy drowning his sorrows in a beer. "I feel like the Bills of the 1990s," Goossen told me. "Chambers and then Paul. You get so close. You're at the big dance and you just don't bring home the trophy. We had the powerhouse [Williams] going into the fight and instead of the six-loss Giants beating the Patriots, it was the 7-to-1 underdog Quintana beating Paul. It happens in sports. It was shocking."

• Williams' loss to Quintana was a major upset to be sure. But do you think maybe that awful Mohawk haircut Williams sported had anything to do with it? Seriously, I don't know why Williams and his people, namely Goossen and trainer/manager George Peterson, insist that Williams is staying at 147 pounds. Williams, who gained 17 pounds between the weigh-in and fight, was clearly sluggish and had very little snap on his punches. It's pretty obvious to most everyone but them that he needs to be at 154 pounds.

• Puerto Rico and welterweight champions seem to go together like Britney Spears and the psycho ward these days. Quintana's victory against Williams means that three of the four major welterweight belts are now worn by Puerto Rican fighters. He joins Miguel Cotto and Cintron (born in Puerto Rico but living in Pennsylvania) as a 147-pound titleholder. Not bad for an island with a population of just 3.95 million.

• Let me preface what I am about to write by saying I am an Andre Berto fan. I picked the exciting welterweight at ESPN.com's 2006 prospect of the year. I've been following him since he was an amateur. He's a personable and good guy with a great work ethic and tremendous potential. He's now 21-0 with 18 KOs. He's ranked No. 1 in the world in the WBC's rankings (ridiculous, but I'll save that rant for another day). He's been on HBO four times with more to come thanks to a contract with the network. But at this point, if HBO is going to put him on, he has to fight legitimate contenders. He's had his David Estrada and Michel Trabant learning fights. Fine. But after last week's destruction of Trabant, no more. No more showcases. It's time for promoter Lou DiBella, adviser Al Haymon and HBO to make fights that mean something.

• Boxing's latest family feud between junior welterweight contender Demetrius Hopkins and Bernard Hopkins, his uncle and light heavyweight champ, still has nothing on those crazy Mayweathers.

• As excited as I am for Saturday's Kelly Pavlik-Jermain Taylor rematch, I have to admit that it's just a hair less interesting because the fight is contracted at 166 pounds and not for Pavlik's middleweight world championship.

• Showtime's "ShoBox" series, which debuted in July 2001 and focuses on prospects, proved once again that it's a great place to see future world titleholders. Quintana's upset of Williams made him the 23rd fighter to box on the series before moving on to win a world title. Here's the list, in no particular order: Quintana, Williams, Ricky Hatton, Juan Diaz, Jeff Lacy, Cintron, Chad Dawson, Robert Guerrero, Diego Corrales (before he won his second title), Scott Harrison, Leonard Dorin, Ruslan Chagaev, Nonito Donaire, Luis Collazo, Joan Guzman, Pavlik, Paulie Malignaggi, Juan Urango, Joachim Alcine, Samuel Peter (interim title), Alex Arthur (interim title) and David Diaz and Eric Aiken, both of whom lost when they fought on "ShoBox." That's a great list. "ShoBox" has a clear mission statement and sticks to the program.

• When I heard last week that HBO had canceled "Inside the NFL" after 31 years, my first hope was that maybe some of the millions that the sports division spends each season on the show would be funneled toward the boxing budget.

• I thought cruiserweight titlist Steve Cunningham did a very good job in the studio last week on ESPN2's "Friday Night Fights." But you know what is sad? Cunningham's first national exposure came behind a desk in a (snazzy) suit instead of in a ring in a fight. But that's promoter Don King for you, who has never put Cunningham on one of his televised cards. Sure, I know it's hard to get HBO or Showtime to buy a cruiserweight fight (although Showtime now seems to be interested in the division, which is a good thing), but King has done plenty of pay-per-view cards where Cunningham would have fit in nicely.

• All hail the New York Giants! I'm still on cloud nine thanks to coach Tom Coughlin, MVP Eli Manning, Michael Strahan, Plaxico Burress, David Tyree (sick catch or what?) and the rest of the boys in blue. I'm a lifelong fan and still basking in the glory of their stunning upset of the New England Patriots in Super Bowl 42. So, speaking of gargantuan upsets …

• DVD pick of the week: Sure, I've seen it a million times and, if you're reading this, it means you probably have too, but does it ever get old? Does it ever get old seeing James "Buster" Douglas author one of the greatest upsets in sports history when he did the unthinkable -- score a 10th-round knockout of the supposedly invincible Mike Tyson in Tokyo? It was Feb. 11, 1990, incredibly 18 years ago this week and appropriate to pop in after what the G-Men did to New England.

 

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• When I heard last week that HBO had canceled "Inside the NFL" after 31 years, my first hope was that maybe some of the millions that the sports division spends each season on the show would be funneled toward the boxing budget.
A Real Sports type format discussing what going on in boxing would be

.

30 mins every month of the beginning of the month.

 

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Bam, no time wasted with Quintana I like that.



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[h1]Welterweight champ Quintana could defend title against Mosley[/h1]
By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
(Archive)

Updated: February 12, 2008, 6:08 PM ET

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While new welterweight titleholder Carlos Quintana, who pulled a major upset when he convincingly outpointed Paul Williams to win a belt last Saturday night, returned to Puerto Rico to a hero's welcome, promoter Lou DiBella began working on his first defense Tuesday.

It could come against former three-division champion Shane Mosley, DiBella told ESPN.com.

Mosley is planning to fight May 31 in Las Vegas on HBO PPV, but his opponent has not been solidified. Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer initially was in negotiations with Don King to match Mosley (44-5, 37 KOs) with former champ Ricardo Mayorga in a junior middleweight fight. When those discussions cooled last week, talks heated up with former undisputed welterweight champion Zab Judah, but no deal has been struck.

Now, Quintana (25-1, 19 KOs) is in the picture.

"I called Richard Schaefer in the last 24 hours and he indicated that it was very interesting and we would speak about it again," DiBella said. "We agreed it would be an interesting matchup of styles and an exciting fight. I ran the fight by Carlos and his trainer, Jose Bonilla, and they like the fight."

DiBella said it was a preliminary discussion but that he had a good feeling about it.

"I'm aware Richard has had discussions with Judah but there is no deal closed," DiBella said. "I've always had good dealings with Richard. There's nothing not to like about the fight. I'm sure Shane would love the opportunity to win another title. And Carlos relishes the chance to fight a star like Shane Mosley, which he is looking forward to doing. It's a hell of a fight. You have two guys who are boxers but both are capable of hurting the other guy."

There was a rematch clause in Williams' contract with Quintana, but it permits Quintana to take an interim bout before having to give him a rematch.

Quintana, who won by scores of 116-112, 116-112 and 115-113, was a heavy underdog against Williams, who was making his first defense. But Quintana consistently beat Williams to the punch, landed clean shots throughout the fight and opened cuts over both of his eyes to win the fight.

In his only previous title shot, Quintana, 31, had been stopped in five rounds by Miguel Cotto in December 2006 in a fight for a vacant title.

In his last bout in November, Mosley, 36, challenged Cotto for his version of the 147-pound crown but lost a tight decision in one of the most exciting fights of the year.

Schaefer was unavailable for comment.

Dan Rafael covers boxing for ESPN.com.

 

[mfr3shm]

I see Mosley beating the crap out of Quintana by knockout or Unanimous decision.

I heard that Paul Williams got paid 900,000 dollars while Carlos Quintana got paid 150,000 dollars

Carlos is now going to look for the big fights to earn that money.

 

[shannonscrooks]

A Mosley v. Zab Judah fight is much more appealing than a fight with Quintana. They would have to hold that fight in Puerto Rico if they wanted to drum upserious interest. Considering the way Cotto dismantled Quintana I would expect Shane to do the same. They need to make that Zab fight happen.

MFr3shM, you are correct with the fighter payouts. Will be quite some time until Williams sees those kinds of paydays again.

 

[gunna get it]

Mosely should beat Carlos pretty soundly.

Zab vs Shane is a much better fight.

when is Kermit fighting again ?

 

[shannonscrooks]

Gunna. Best believe I will be in attendance:

April 12 (Saturday), 2008[table][tr][td][/td] [td]At The Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, NJ
(HBO) Miguel Cotto (31-0) vs. Alfonso Gomez (18-3-2)
(The Ring Magazine #1 Welterweight vs. Unranked)
(WBA Welterweight belt)
(HBO) Kermit Cintron (29-1) vs. Antonio Margarito (35-5)
(The Ring Magazine #6 Welterweight vs. #4)
(IBF Welterweight belt)
[/td] [/tr][/table]

 

[gunna get it]

O yea its in April.

U think Kermy can beat Margaritslow?

 

[shannonscrooks]

The thing is Margarito destroyed Cintron their last time out, but our last memory of the previously most feared fighter in the division is a lackluster outingagainst the exposed Paul Williams. Ever since he began training with Manny Steward Cintron has been a different fighter. I think Cintron comes away with aclose W.

 

[ap27]

idk why, but i just don't like Margarito...and the way he was such a poor loser after Williams beat him bothered me...

I think with Cintron working with Manny, he's not going to get caught again like all the bums Margarito has fought in the past...

 

[theprofessorofpugilism]

Don't count out Quintana. Everybody thought Williams would smoke him, and look what happened. Mosley doesn't pound to the body like Cotto does, whichis what broke down Quintana. Also, that was Quintana's first world title fight, he may have been nervous and it caused him to have an off night. Nowhe's pulled a huge upset and has a world title, his confidence will be way up. I've heard Emmanuel Steward say this before, and with Quintana it mightbe especially true, but he says that once a boxer wins his first world title, he immediately becomes 20% better. I have to withhold my prediction on aQuintana-Mosley fight, i honestly don't know which way it'll go right now.

Also, while i don't know if going after Winky Wright is the best idea, i do think that Andy Lee is going to be an absolute monster in the near future. Toobad that by the time he's ready for a title that the 160 pound division is going to be terrible.

 

[jagshemash]

Cintron is going to get beat down again...maybe it just won't be as early this time.