09 Real Deal College Football Discussion/No Homers - Lets geh geh GET IT!

i'm not saying it's a lock that we'll make a BCS game, but we WILL make a bowl game regardless of the outcome in the coming weeks... The one goodthing about the Civil War this year is that we are at home (which also doesn't guarantee anything, but it helps.) We still have a tough schedule ahead andeverybody is well aware of it. 'Zona has been slowly makin there way up the Pac 10 for the last two years and they are not to be takin lightly!
 
Originally Posted by ACE BOMBER

BTW now they're talking about Masoli for heisman on ESPN??? The hell....?!

Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

Oregon fans are gonna be in for Va Tech type awakening when they lose to Oregon State ... I can just see it now.
already punchign your ticket to bowl game when theirs alot of work left. Just hope the players have their heads on straight and arent feeling themselves the same way.

and I picked Oregon to win Pac X, I hope they stay the course




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2 game losing streak and shared pack 10 title?



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Darrell Scott leaving Boulder for the trash school in LA...

BOULDER - Sophomore tailback Darrell Scott, the most highly-rated recruit signed in Colorado coach Dan Hawkins' four years, has left the program.
"I'd been thinking about it for a couple of months," Scott told The Denver Post today in a telephone interview.

Scott said he hoped to get a release from CU to UCLA, so he could join his uncle, former Buffs wideout Josh Smith, with the Bruins. Smith, a wide receiver, transferred to UCLA during the summer and is sitting out this season under NCAA transfer rules.


Hawkins...
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You can't justify putting Oregon ahead of Boise if both win out. Head to head Boise is a better team (2 years in a row might I add)

Sure I can, and I already have.

Once again, sorry to burst your bubble but they WILL pass Boise State IF (and that's a big IF) they win out. Teams change over the course of a season - deal with it. Boise State beat a LOWER RANKED #14 Oregon team that has beaten two (at the time) top 6 teams in the country.
Who cares what they were ranked when we beat them. We have dominated Oregon in ooooooooh, big, bad, loud AUTZEN and in Boise. Holds no water whatsoever, 2 wins in a row means BOISE >>>>>>>>>>>>> oregon
You can't bring up a game from last year to try and prove that you are a better team than Oregon this year.
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I will give you that you dominated them in the first game this year, but like everyone else is saying, you haven't looked at all impressive since then. You struggled against Tulsa and UC Davis, while Oregon handled USC and Cal.
I'm just saying we have Oregon's number the last few years. And they should have been ready for that game - they had all summer to prepare

V-Tech gonna be in for a surprise on Labor Day
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^ Damn, I can respect that (but it is against Vandy
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)...Makes Urban lookeven worse when the players have to discipline themselves.
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Jim Thorpe Award Names 2009 Semi-Finalists [table][tr][td]
Oklahoma City--- The Jim Thorpe Award Screening Committee has announced 12 semi-finalists for the award given annually to the nation's best college defensive back.


This list will be narrowed again on November 23, to three finalists who will be invited to the nationally telecast Home Depot ESPNU College Football Awards Show on December 10. The winner will be announced on the show and the official presentation will be at a formal banquet in Oklahoma City on February 9, 2010.


The 2009 award marks the 24th presentation of the trophy, first won in 1986 by Baylor's Thomas Everett. Last year's winner was Ohio State University's Malcolm Jenkins, now playing for the New Orleans Saints.


Jim Thorpe Award winners are selected for performance on the field, athletic ability and character.


The 2009 semi-finalists are:

Javier Arenas, Sr., Alabama
Eric Berry, Jr., Tennessee
Barry Church, Sr., Toledo
Perrish Cox, Sr., Oklahoma State
Joe Haden, Jr., Florida
Brandon Harris, So., Miami (FL)
Taylor Mays, Sr., USC
Tyler Sash, So., Iowa
Darrell Stuckey, Sr., Kansas
Earl Thomas, So., Texas
Alterraun Verner, Sr., UCLA
Kyle Wilson, Sr., Boise State


The Screening Committee was allowed only 12 candidates on the semi-finalist list, but determined five additional outstanding players deserved recognition and were given honorable mention status. They are Kam Chancellor, Sr., Virginia Tech; Ras-I Dowling, Jr., Virginia; Brian Jackson, Sr., Oklahoma; Rahim Moore, So., UCLA; and DeAndre McDaniel, Jr., Clemson
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Watch Mays win....
 
SMH at young hibachi on there and no kurt coleman. Dude obviously shouldnt win the award but..
 
Originally Published: November 4, 2009

[h2]McClain's football smarts off the charts[/h2]

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TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- If the Big Defensive Coordinator in the Sky wanted to sculpt the modern middle linebacker, No. 3 Alabama junior Rolando McClain just may be his prototype: He is 6-foot-4, 258 pounds, and the way his cable-like limbs are connected by a strong torso, he could be mistaken for a small forward. Senior cornerback Javier Arenas described what it's like as a tackler when McClain arrives to finish off the guy with the ball.

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Marvin Gentry/US PresswireWhen Rolando McClain sizes a running back up, that ball carrier is going to feel the impact.

"You black out for a second," Arenas said, "and try to figure out what truck hit you. You see him walking away. OK, it's him."

Crimson Tide H-back Preston Dial makes room for Heisman candidate Mark Ingram. Dial knows how to open holes. It is his station in life to block McClain three days a week. He's considering an easier line of work, like being Brock Lesnar's sparring partner.

"Not only are his legs real strong," Dial said of McClain, "but he's so physical with his hands in shedding blockers. He never stays blocked. You have to stop the linebacker's charge and switch his momentum. He's so violent when he comes and meets you in the hole, all you hope for is a stalemate. Instead of the running back picking his hole, Ro makes the decision for the running back which way he is going to go."

Yet McClain's physical skills are not the main reason he leads one of the nation's best defenses with 57 tackles. His ability to deliver a blow isn't why he's a semifinalist for the Lombardi Award.

There are moments on the practice field when McClain takes a play off. That's not to say that McClain would ever line up and not give everything he can possibly give, whether it's Saturday in Bryant-Denny Stadium against No. 9 LSU, Tuesday on the practice field or a July Wednesday in a 7-on-7 drill. McClain would take his uniform off before he would take a play off.

But there are times in practice when the coaches take McClain out of a drill to give a younger guy some work. McClain takes the play off. On those occasions, more often than not, McClain will not trot over to the sideline, grab a water bottle and chat up his teammates. McClain will walk to the middle of the field to stand alongside head coach Nick Saban.

Saban will watch the drill with his arms crossed. McClain will watch the drill with his arms crossed.

When McClain, consciously or not, adopts Saban's posture, it is physical confirmation of what everyone within Alabama football already understands. Ro McClain is Nick Saban writ large -- and fast and explosive. "Coach on the field" may be a cliché. With McClain, it fits. He may have a football-hot body but McClain is loved by his coaches and his teammates for his mind.

"It's unbelievable how much he understands the game," fellow linebacker Cory Reamer said. "The second part is how well he knows the defense. He really knows what Coach would like to go to in the situations we get it and he really does a good job communicating it."

On offense, when quarterback Greg McElroy calls an audible, the center changes the blocking scheme for the offensive line, and the backs and wide receivers signal one another their changes. On defense, when McClain calls an audible, he makes the changes for the defensive linemen, the secondary and the linebackers.
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Some guys understand their position. But I would venture to guess Ro knows what every player is supposed to do on every play on defense.
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Clemson defensive coordinator Kevin Steele, who held that position at Alabama the previous two seasons, has coached linebackers on the major college level and in the NFL for more than two decades.

"He's got that gift of being able to analytically process information and react to it as fast as any guy I've ever been around," Steele said. "There are a lot of ways to teach players -- in the classroom, on the board, with video, practice reps. Some guys have to do it full speed. You can pass Rolando in the hall and say, 'In this formation, in this defense we need to do this,' and it's done.

"I've never coached but two like that," Steele said. "One of them was Sam Mills, who played 12 years in the NFL and was All-Pro several times. And Rolando."

Sitting at his desk on a recent hectic, game-planning Monday, Saban paused to explain what makes McClain's grasp of defense different from most players. If his defensive playbook were a math text, it would be calculus. McClain knows it like a Tuscaloosa first-grader knows that two plus two equals 3rd-and-6.

"Some guys understand their position," Saban said. "But I would venture to guess Ro knows what every player is supposed to do on every play on defense, and he knows like I know who didn't do right, and when he didn't do right, sometimes immediately."

Asked to define McClain's football intelligence for an audience that hasn't played, Saban used baseball.

"You can teach a hitter where the strike zone is," Saban said. "You can even teach him how to swing a bat. But you really can't teach him [how to judge] a ball or a strike from the time it leaves the pitcher's hand until it gets to home plate. The guy's got to figure that out on his own and make an" -- Saban snapped his fingers -- "almost athletic intuition decision, that this is a good pitch to hit.

"Even though we're not playing baseball, from a football-playing standpoint, Ro would be … " Saban thought for a second.

"Albert Pujols?"

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AP Photo/Ed ReinkeAlabama coach Nick Saban often finds himself clapping when Rolando McClain comes off the field.

It would be a great story to say that McClain sought out Saban, that he came to Tuscaloosa from his hometown of Decatur, Ala., to scratch an intellectual itch. It would be a great story. It would be fiction.

"When I came here, he told me if I wanted to play my freshman year, I had to learn the defense," McClain said. He began to laugh. "I wanted to play."

That they came together at all is a happy accident. McClain committed to Alabama to play for Saban's predecessor, Mike Shula. All McClain knew about Saban was that he had won a national championship at LSU. Saban knew McClain had been one of the nation's top high school linebackers at Decatur High. But he didn't get to know him until the freshmen reported to campus in the summer of 2007.

Saban met a young man ready to compete. As McClain helped lead Decatur High to the state Final Four in basketball, he also continued working out for football.

"He understood when he committed to Alabama that, 'Hey, I have a chance to play early,'" Decatur High head football coach Jere Adcock said. "He and Caleb Thomas, who's a guard at UAB now, would come up here after basketball practice and lift weights."

Adcock said he has had players who pushed themselves as hard as McClain. "They're undersized," he said. "To see a kid of that size and that ability push himself to that level is why he has elevated himself."

McClain beat out a returning starter, sophomore Prince Hall, and started the opener as a true freshman. The season had its bumps. McClain started eight games. Saban, who drives his players and coaches as hard as he drives himself, learned not to yell at McClain.

"It didn't do any good," Saban said. He recognizes the obsession.

"I'm so competitive," McClain said. "I want to be the best at everything I do. Growing up, I wanted to be the smartest, wanted to be the best swimmer, whatever it was we were doing. Against everybody, anything I did. Whether it was in the classroom or whatever, I always wanted to be the best. I'm hard on myself. I know I'm not perfect and I know I'm never going to be perfect. At the same time, I can always work and be better because I want to get there. Coach says I'm too much of a perfectionist."

If Nick Saban thinks you're too much of a perfectionist, you might think about taking it down a notch. When McClain comes off the field distraught after missing a tackle, Saban is the one who tells him to let it go.

Saban wouldn't have McClain any other way.

"That's a tremendous asset, as long as you can keep channeling it in the right direction," Saban said.

In McClain's case, that direction is usually toward the line of scrimmage with ill will on his mind.

Ivan Maisel is a senior writer for ESPN.com and hosts the ESPNU College Football podcast. Send your questions and comments to Ivan at [email protected].
 
Earl is gonna win it. Stats mean a lot with the Thorpe and having 2 ints returned for td's (i think he's tied for the national lead with 6 ints too),plus playing on a team going to the Nat'l Champ game. It's his to lose.
 
Originally Posted by ACE BOMBER

The one good thing about the Civil War this year is that we are at home (which also doesn't guarantee anything, but it helps.)
Word. How long was the streak of the non-home team winning the game each year? I know OSU broke it a few years back.
 
Originally Posted by jville819

Earl is gonna win it. Stats mean a lot with the Thorpe and having 2 ints returned for td's (i think he's tied for the national lead with 6 ints too), plus playing on a team going to the Nat'l Champ game. It's his to lose.
Noooope, 'cause I think Deandre McDaniel leads the nation in pics.

How the @+#% is he not a Thorpe finalist? And I know he got at least 1 ret for a TD.

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Originally Posted by 18key

Originally Posted by ACE BOMBER

The one good thing about the Civil War this year is that we are at home (which also doesn't guarantee anything, but it helps.)
Word. How long was the streak of the non-home team winning the game each year? I know OSU broke it a few years back.
I think it was 8 or 9 years. OSU snapped it in 2007 when they beat Oregon in 2OT at home.
 
Had Dominique Franks caught a few more of those int's that were hitting him right in hands he might have gotten a little recognition lol.
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

when was the last time an underclassmen won the thorpe?
don't know, but playing on a team going to the Championship game and being 2nd in the nation in picks doesn't hurt. Plus Texas dbs havehad good luck with the award recently.
Who else you gonna give it to tho
 
Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

when was the last time an underclassmen won the thorpe?
It's been around since '86. My guess is never?
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EDIT: Gunna, hit me with EB's stats this year.
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I hope the Brownswill draft him.
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Well I would at least prefer that a DB be the the best in his respective conference before he's considered the best in the nation.

Thomas is not.
 
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