09 Real Deal College Football Discussion/No Homers - Lets geh geh GET IT!

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Ponder looked ok spo far this year.

And Rix was better then all them.

He, like many players to come through FSU post 2001, had their talents wasted....

 

[north dade represent]

Originally Posted by dreClark



And Rix was better then all them.

He, like many players to come through FSU post 2001, had their talents wasted....

Word? I knew a couple dudes at state that swore Chris Rix was responsible for the downfall of FSU football.

 

[N41D]

Originally Posted by tmay407

Rumors that Ahmad Dixon will be opening back up and de-committing from Baylor.

Supposedly he named Alabama, Oklahoma State, LSU, Florida, and Texas A&M as the schools that will be getting visits. I assume Auburn would still be at the top of the list, as well.

Doesn't he work with the same 'advisor' as Lache and all them?

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Yeah, there was a split in the locker room over who should be the QB, Rix or AD, (Or even Quan) but the fact of the matter is, his freshman year, Rix put inWORK. If he woulda had a real OC/QB coach, we woulda been good money. You pair Rix w/ Richt and I think it would've been a totally different outcome. Stillcan't believe he got himself suspended

There woulda been no split if the QB was killing.

FSU was never the same after Devaughn Darling's death and the changes on the coaching staff.

 

[tmay407]

Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk

Doesn't he work with the same 'advisor' as Lache and all them?

I think so. And he's really good friends with Lache, so...

Ahmad just needs to quit playing and choose the team that was his favorite growing up...

 

[flahustler1024]

Yo Gunna...

What are you hearing on Matt Elam and him visiting UT this weekend?
Confirmed or just a rumor?

 

[gunna get it]

confirmed, he's coming.

 

[MVP]

Early look at ESPN's top recruiting classes:

Top 5: 1) UF 2) Texas 3) UGA 4) Bama 5) Tennessee

for the rest check this out:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/classrankings

 

[scott frost]

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He is the Sidd Finch of college football, a player so talented and productive it's almost impossible to believe he's real.

But Texas A&M quarterback Jerrod Johnson is very real. And despite carrying a team with less talent and more freshmen than all the hyped-up Heisman-watch names, Johnson is making a stronger early-season case for the stiff-arm statue than anyone.

His story -- how he became one of the most respected, mature and grounded athletes in big-time sports -- is equally inspiring.

But you wouldn't know it unless you took the time to drive to College Station to catch a glimpse of this kid, who has run like Terrelle Pryor, led like Colt McCoy, thrown like Sam Bradford. Teammates and coaches respect his tough-mindedness and character as much as so many fans admire Tim Tebow's.

But television cameras have not followed Johnson's every move. In fact, they have not followed any of them. Not one of Johnson's monstrous games this season has been televised.

The director in the truck has not demanded that cameras capture every facial expression and emotion of Johnson's mother, girlfriend or neighbors. Brent Musberger has not cooed over Johnson's greatness or made it seem that when he traipses effortlessly over football turf he could just as well be walking on water. Thom Brennaman has not gushed over spending five or 20 minutes with Johnson, saying your life would be better for it.

As one Austin columnist put it after watching Johnson run for three touchdowns and pass for three more in a 56-19 pasting of Alabama-Birmingham on Saturday, "Stick (Johnson) in Tim Tebow's uniform, and after the numbers he put up ... the Heisman race would be over."

Instead, most of the college football world has no idea what it has been missing. His name is often misspelled or mispronounced. It's Jerrod, as in ja-ROD. He is compared, foolishly, to Vince Young or JaMarcus Russell, mostly because he is a big quarterback and black. He is more polished as a passer, a smooth runner and often the smartest player on the field.

Johnson's coming out party figures to come this Saturday, though, when the 3-0 Aggies take on Arkansas at Cowboys Stadium.

And when America finally does say hello to Jerrod Johnson, a.k.a. Sidd, chances are it will want to pay attention to what college football truly is all about.

Johnson doesn't drink, and never has tried anything stronger than Advil when it comes to drugs. He made an early impression, literally, on the Aggies program over the summer as he entered his first full season as the starting quarterback. He woke up at 5 a.m. everyday for boot camp-type workouts. He telephoned incoming freshman and encouraged them to meet for 7-on-7 and 11-on-11 practices with veterans. He held meetings with every offensive player, meticulously using a laser pointer to go over individual assignments on every play in the Aggies playbook.

Johnson put a once-great football program that finished 4-8 a year ago on his shoulders. He leads the nation's No. 1 offense in coach Mike Sherman's second year in Aggieland, and through leadership and on-field production, he is carrying the Aggies back to respectability.

Comparisons? He averages twice as many passing yards and has a better rushing average per-game than Tebow.

He has three times more rushing yards, more rushing touchdowns and a higher passer rating than McCoy.

He's thrown more touchdown passes, with a higher completion percentage, than Ryan Mallett, Jacory Harris and Terrelle Pryor.

He averages more total offense per-game than Taylor Potts, Jimmy Clausen and Todd Reesing. His passer rating is higher than Case Keenum's, Zac Robinson's and Max Hall's. He accounts for more points-per-game than any player in America. He ranks in the top 11 nationally in every passing category, as well as total offense.

He stands 6-foot-6 and weighs 245-pounds. He is a powerful runner with a deceptive and long stride. He can throw the ball 70-yards, with ease. At the Peyton Manning camp over the summer, he beat McCoy, Bradford, Greg McElroy and a couple dozen other Division I quarterbacks in a passing skills competition. At the camp, the Manning family patriarch Archie Manning told Johnson, "You have it all."

And in just three games in 2009, Johnson has thrown for 1,157 yards, rushed for four touchdowns, passed for nine and thrown zero interceptions. Zero. He has started just 13 games in his collegiate career, but is on pace to obliterate long-standing Aggies records.

Already, he has posted four of the top nine single-game total offense performances. He has four of the top six all-time single-game passing marks. He already has established the single-season record for touchdowns and is on pace to become the all-time completions percentage leader.

His is Sidd-like in every way.

Growing up in the Houston suburb of -- appropriately -- Humble, Texas, he was considered a pro prospect in baseball and basketball. As a sophomore in high school, Johnson's fastball clocked 90-mph on the radar gun. As a junior in high school, Johnson earned a basketball scholarship to A&M. Marquette coach and former Billy Gillispie assistant Buzz Williams said of Johnson shortly after his commitment in 2005, "he could start for us right now."

But there's more to Jerrod than numbers and skills.

He is the son of a high school teacher and high school administrator. Pam and Larry Johnson's faith and compassion ran so deep they took in nearly two dozen Foster children while Jerrod and his brother, Marquis, were growing up. When Jerrod was 3-years-old, the state took custody of the child of Pam's friend. Her heart broke at the thought of the child, a boy named Kendall, not having a home. Larry and Pam went through foster parent training and raised the child until the state found a permanent home.

From then on, the Johnsons gave foster children everything they could -- holiday parties, gifts, vacations, a church home, a family's love. They accepted kids of every age, so long as they were boys.

Some of the children were infants. Some were young teens. Some were children of crack and heroine addicts. Some suffered from severe developmental and health issues. Some simply were abandoned. Some were black, some were white, some were Hispanic. It never mattered.

"We didn't care if they were special kids, overweight, sick, and we didn't see color," Pam Johnson said. "We didn't talk about any of that in our family. We're all related. It doesn't matter what color."

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The children did everything with Marquis, a former Prairie View A&M end now coaching strength and conditioning at Eastern Michigan, and Jerrod. The boys treated the kids like part of the family, playing with them, kidding them, shooting hoops, teaching them dance moves or songs, helping with homework.

"Some people told me that by taking on all these kids, some with (behavioral) problems, that it would rub off on my kids and they would be problems," Pam said. "The opposite happened. It taught our boys to value family."

Some foster children stayed with the Johnsons for years. One such child, Joey, suffered from DiGeorge Syndrome, a degenerative neuromuscular organ and growth condition. Joey loved to dance and became very close with Jerrod, who has a deep love for music and dancing. Not long after Jerrod left for College Station as a freshman, Joey suffered heart failure as Pam was leaving for work and died in her arms.

Another boy, Joe, was part of the family for nine years, longer than any other, and was like a brother to Jerrod and Marquis. Joe was diagnosed with developmental issues, but Pam didn't buy it. She gradually reduced the amount of medication Joe took, while Marquis and Jerrod taught him how to play basketball. Joe made the varsity basketball team at Smiley High School in Houston, where Pam taught, graduated high school and lives in a group home in the Houston area.

With deeds as much as words, Larry and Pam taught their sons to accept everything and everyone. And to take nothing for granted.

Larry took on extra jobs to help pay for all the expenses of raising his boys and foster kids. A former Texas A&M safety and wide receiver, Johnson became one of the Humble area's most beloved coaches and administrators.

When Jerrod played elite summer-league basketball, helping a Houston hoops team reach the AAU Elite Eight three consecutive years and the Final Four once from 2002-2005, Larry Johnson was a volunteer assistant coach. The travel team featured such future Division I players as Johnson, Arizona point guard Nic Wise, Nevada-Las Vegas forward Darris Santee, TCU guard Jason Ebie, Texas Tech forward Mike Singletary, Bucknell wing Stephen Tyree and Rice footballer Pierre Beasley. Yet while all that front-line talent scrimmaged during practices, Larry Johnson often took bench players to the other end of the gym to work on rebounding, shooting, footwork. Everyone mattered.

The lessons stuck with Jerrod. When he woke before dawn to work out and organize meetings and scrimmages in the summer, he made sure every player on the Aggies depth chart and walk-ons got calls. At his 21st birthday in July, Johnson and his friends organized a party at a College Station nightclub. College kids acted like college kids all night. And Jerrod sang, danced and partied, but he drank only sports drinks and juice. He has, however, promised Aggies teammates that if they make it to the Big 12 title game, he will, "take a sip" of some wine or champagne.

The college football world is about to become impressed with what Jerrod Johnson has become. The one person he most wishes could be at Cowboys Stadium to watch the next step in this marvelous season, however, will not be there.

In December of 2007 while the Aggies were preparing for the Alamo Bowl and just months before starting his first game at quarterback, Jerrod received a call from his brother. He said he needed to come home because Larry was in the hospital. It was only after Jerrod arrived that he realized his father had suffered a massive stroke.

Even until his final few breaths, Larry Johnson was trying to help kids do things the right way. A former Humble High student called "Mr. Johnson" asking for advice on transferring to another college on that Saturday afternoon. Jerrod clicked in to talk with his father. Then, Pam's mother clicked in.

As Larry Johnson handed the phone to Pam, he mumbled something. He then collapsed to the floor. Two days later, Larry died with his sons and wife by his side.

At Larry's funeral, Jerrod spoke in detail of the lessons his father taught him. Marquis did an impeccable, humorous impersonation of how his boisterous, affable father would implore kids to always do the right thing. On the front row of the church sitting next to Pam was Joe, the Foster child who spent nine years with the family.

After the service, hundreds of former players and students greeted the family and shared stories of how "Mr. Johnson" affected their lives. A year later, the basketball court at Humble High School was renamed Larry Johnson Court.

On a recent Saturday evening in College Station, Pam Johnson walked into Kyle Field with her mother, and two young children -- a 3-year-old Hispanic boy named Anthony and a 2-year-old black child named Trey. Both of their mothers are drug addicts. The babies were in awe of the game-day surroundings and all the people. They never had seen anything like it.

Larry Johnson never got to see his son start a college football game. But whenever Pam does, and every time someone else does, what they see is exactly what Larry Johnson wanted: a kid who treats everyone around him the same, no matter where they're from, what they look like or what's happened in the past.

It's how he became one of the best college football stories you never knew.

Award-winning Houston columnist John P. Lopez hosts a morning sports talk show and writes a blog for Sportsradio 610 AM in Houston.
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[brian cushing]

Sometimes ESPN and Rivals are way different in terms of ranking high school players. Which one holds more weight with you guys?

 

[zs05wc]

^Scout.

 

[nako xl]

Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT

why would it force a change? If Pitt USF & WVA lose a couple 2-3 games each, Cinci would have hardly any credible opponents in the big east.
and boise St and Utah have been left out the title game a few times already with unblemished records.

BCS aint changin no time soon, the revenue it creates is proposterous

I don't recall Boise ever being ranked this high this early in the season though... If they run the table, there's no excuse for leavingthem out. Especially if Oregon finishes, say, 9-3 following that shellacking of Cal. Voters will have to outright admit that they'll never vote a NAQschool into the championship and it'll expose the system for what it is -- biased.

Whether that means it's broken and in need of fixing will then have to be addressed. It'll force them to face the issue that luckily they've beensidestepping this whole time.

Had Okie beaten UF last year, it might have come a little sooner, but it'll happen eventually.

 

[gunna get it]

no excuse?
post Boise st's schedule and let that bring u back to reality.

Until WAC teams and MWC teams play a meaningful schedule they will ALWAYS be left out

aint no change comin, ask Senator Hatch.

 

[i am toddzo]

Jerrod

... unfortunately for him his offensive line is terrible and he will most likely be running for his life this weekend.

 

[N41D]

Originally Posted by i am toddzo

Jerrod

... unfortunately for him his offensive line is terrible and he will most likely be running for his life this weekend.

Them moving Barrera to LT is the best thing they coulda done for that line... Now they just need to get Scales on the field and they'll beOK... They started the year basically playing 4 guards with a center.

JJ is a good dude though.. Hell of an athlete. I really expect him and that offense to shred Arkansas this weekend... Just not sure their defense is goodenough even if they run up 40 points... Von Miller gotta have a HUGE game...

 

[fear the ibis]

Originally Posted by Brian Cushing

Sometimes ESPN and Rivals are way different in terms of ranking high school players. Which one holds more weight with you guys?

I pay for both but I couldn't definitively say that one is better than the other as far as ranking players.

 

[ooiron manoo]

"no excuse?

post Boise st's schedule and let that bring u back to reality."

People are going to start getting pissed off when a 1 loss teams start passing Boise State in the rankings. I give credit to Boise State for going out andscheduling a home and home with Oregon, but the rest of the schedule is garbage, mainly due to the conference not being strong.

It will also be taken into account that they played their toughest game at Home, first game of the season, and Oregon is not the same team now that it wasthen.

Oregon

Miami (OH)

@ Fresno State

@ Bowling Green

UC Davis

@ Tulsa

@ Hawaii

San Jose State

@ Louisiana Tech

Idaho

@ Utah State

Nevada

New Mexico State

That is a terrible schedule, even Bill Snyder thinks it is a cream puff schedule.

 

[ooiron manoo]

"no excuse?

post Boise st's schedule and let that bring u back to reality."

People are going to start getting pissed off when a 1 loss teams start passing Boise State in the rankings. I give credit to Boise State for going out andscheduling a home and home with Oregon, but the rest of the schedule is garbage, mainly due to the conference not being strong.

It will also be taken into account that they played their toughest game at Home, first game of the season, and Oregon is not the same team now that it wasthen.

Oregon

Miami (OH)

@ Fresno State

@ Bowling Green

UC Davis

@ Tulsa

@ Hawaii

San Jose State

@ Louisiana Tech

Idaho

@ Utah State

Nevada

New Mexico State

That is a terrible schedule, even Bill Snyder thinks it is a cream puff schedule.

 

[statis22]

I always thought Jerrod could stand to lose some weight. Can be more effective than he already is even behind that makeshift oline.

 

[nako xl]

Originally Posted by ooIRON MANoo

"no excuse?

post Boise st's schedule and let that bring u back to reality."

People are going to start getting pissed off when a 1 loss teams start passing Boise State in the rankings. I give credit to Boise State for going out and scheduling a home and home with Oregon, but the rest of the schedule is garbage, mainly due to the conference not being strong.

It will also be taken into account that they played their toughest game at Home, first game of the season, and Oregon is not the same team now that it was then.

Oregon

Miami (OH)

@ Fresno State

@ Bowling Green

UC Davis

@ Tulsa

@ Hawaii

San Jose State

@ Louisiana Tech

Idaho

@ Utah State

Nevada

New Mexico State

That is a terrible schedule, even Bill Snyder thinks it is a cream puff schedule.

I agree with what you and Gunna are saying completely. I understand all the reasons for Boise's schedule sucking and also understand teams duck them andit's no their fault.

THAT said...

What's wrong with the voters ranking all these mid-majors so high to start the year, giving Boise and BYU and Houston (and in the past TCU and Utah) thesehuge early season surges in the polls knowing damn well they have no interest in seeing them in the national championship?

What I meant by "no excuse" and "Will have to face it sooner or later" is all these analysts and coaches pander for non-bcs schools to beconsidered for the championship game while secretly hoping that they all trip up at some point so they never actually have to deal with the conundrum of votinga 1 or 2 loss sec or big 12 school in ahead of them. They need to man up and call the BCS what it is, and not pretend any NAQ school has a shot at a nationaltitle with the current system until they play essentially a BCS conference type schedule, knowing damn well it'll never happen.

 

[tmay407]

Nothing like a good ol' fluff piece written by a guy that works for one of the A&M recruiting sites...

 

[i am toddzo]

tmay I read the article and was like wow Jerrod is getting nationallove? And then I saw that homer Lopez wrote it and laughed to myself.

 

[dlo13]

Hawaii has managed to find a QB with a throwing motion even worse than Colt Brennan's.

 

[N41D]

Boise State really might play one legitimately above-average team all season...

 

[tmay407]

John Lopez was also an assistant on that basketball team that all those kids played on...not that that really changes anything that was written, but I thinkit's worth noting...

And side note: According to one of the guys on AggieYell, Joey's death (the kid that it mentions in the article) ultimately led to Jerrod quittingbasketball. Apparently Billy G. wouldn't let Jerrod leave practice to go to the funeral, so Jerrod just said "I quit," and left.