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That lineup has all the makings of a perennial 6 seed in the East.
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I don't want %+*#%%* Jeff Green
I want David West.
I want David West.
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Not to mention they have George Hill and Psycho T. I think there isn't a single dude on that roster I don't like. Plus I love their coach.
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^ You forgot to mention my dudes Paul George, Brandon Rush and Jeff Foster. That team is loaded with talent. If they can get David West they can be a very good team. Collison and West played good together when they were on the Hornets too.
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That Dallas pick is top 20 protected anyway. So they created an insufficient trade exception for Hedo's contract in exchange for a pick that they won't get if it's anywhere near the lottery.
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gonna be alot of blue christmases for laker fans this year lol
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Indiana is my 2nd favorite team this season. They remind me of a mini Grizz team from 2-3 years ago.
Adding West and Hill will definitely help them compete against some of the tougher teams in the East. Depending on the matchup, they could possibly upset someone. Probably not the Heat or Bulls though.
They have everything you want in a good team. If they can be a good defensive team this year, rebound the ball well, utilize West/Hibbert in the right way, they can be scary. Better than the Hawks at least.
Adding West and Hill will definitely help them compete against some of the tougher teams in the East. Depending on the matchup, they could possibly upset someone. Probably not the Heat or Bulls though.
They have everything you want in a good team. If they can be a good defensive team this year, rebound the ball well, utilize West/Hibbert in the right way, they can be scary. Better than the Hawks at least.
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Paul George too, damn.
That Dallas pick is top 20 protected anyway. So they created an insufficient trade exception for Hedo's contract in exchange for a pick that they won't get if it's anywhere near the lottery.
, I've never heard of a top-TWENTY protected pick.
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I said that the Lakers or the Nets would be putting the Howard deal together.
The Lakers would include the Mavs pick in the deal.
The Dallas pick will be in the late teens. Low 20's at best. LA, OKC, Spurs, Houston with NENE are all better than Dallas out west. Bulls, Heat, Celtics, Knicks are better than Dallas right now.
Where the Nets picks are allotted are important. Its going to determine what they can actually send out.
They cant send out the Warriors pick they potientally have, to Orlando cause its earmarked for Utah. That Warriors pick is protected top7. And if the Nets got Dwight it would be the pick Utah got no matter what.
The Clippers own the Minnesota pick. And its unprotected for this year.
The Houston pick they sent for Terrance Williams is top 14 protected. Seeing as Houston, with the downfall of Denver, and Portland looks like a playoff team the Nets should receive that pick. But its still a mid to late teens pick. If Houston were bad this season, and next then that pick would revert to a second rounder.
Houston with Nene is a top 4 seed in the West, and that pick is prob in the same range as the Dallas pick would be.
Simplified?
NJ is owed a pick by Houston. Its likely to be similar in range to the Dallas pick if the Nets got Dwight, and the Rockets got Nene.
As far as a Bynum for Howard trade. If the Offers are Bynum, Dallas pick and future Lakers pick vs Lopez and Houston's pick with Nene, and a future Nets first rounder the picks are closer to even. If you think Bynum is worth the risk, the picks are even, and Lopez needs an extension beyond the next 2 years. You take Bynum every time.
As far as the Dallas pick being top 20 protected. Houston's pick is top 14 protected. So its not a lotto pick at all. If Houston gets any good then its prob outside the top 20.
Like I said before the Houston pick being offered is better more than likely, but Bynum is the best talent and at most aren't worth passing on the best talent.
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And I think you're misunderstanding things a bit. NJ owns MINNESOTA'S first round pick this year. Unprotected. That's what they'd be offering for Dwight.
You mean the Clippers own it.
And for damn sure that's an important pick.
This year's draft Minnesota picked 2nd overall ...
Chris Paul was the 4th pick overall in his draft and this year's is supposed to be stacked.
And I hated Psycho T in college. Son had Phillip Rivers face.
.....but the pros...that's my dude.
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the mavericks pick will be in the late or mid 20's. that team will not drop off.
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I'm sorry, but how is Houston a top 4 team out West with Nene/Pau? Lol
And how the @$%* Memphis keeps getting left out of these top teams in the conference discussions? The Spurs? They on life support.Edit...wait u meant Nene ALONE is a top 4 team out West? Lol
And how the @$%* Memphis keeps getting left out of these top teams in the conference discussions? The Spurs? They on life support.Edit...wait u meant Nene ALONE is a top 4 team out West? Lol
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all of this.
Memphis was 1 game outta the conf. finals against a team that wanted to play the other guys ... without Rudy Gay.
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Dirk himself gets the Mavs to the 4th seed at the worst. Let's be real about the value of butler, barea, and chandler.
Lulz at the mavs missing JJ and Caron though. roddy buckets >> JJ and ball movement >>> ball stopping butler.
Lulz at the mavs missing JJ and Caron though. roddy buckets >> JJ and ball movement >>> ball stopping butler.
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Its still 10 spots you would be passing on. You all are acting like morons.
The 2 picks will be within 10 spots of each other if Houston has Nene. Is that a given?
But the pick puts them in better position because Bynum is a better talent than Lopez.
Memphis is another team better than Dallas this year.
The 2 picks will be within 10 spots of each other if Houston has Nene. Is that a given?
But the pick puts them in better position because Bynum is a better talent than Lopez.
Memphis is another team better than Dallas this year.
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Real talk as of right now, Memphis is my pick to get out the West.
Memphis was the only in team in the NBA I thought would give the Mavs problems in the playoffs.
Memphis was the only in team in the NBA I thought would give the Mavs problems in the playoffs.
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You mean the Clippers own it.
And for damn sure that's an important pick.
This year's draft Minnesota picked 2nd overall ...
Chris Paul was the 4th pick overall in his draft and this year's is supposed to be stacked.
And I hated Psycho T in college. Son had Phillip Rivers face.
.....but the pros...that's my dude.
God dangit, yeah.
The Dallas pick will be in the late teens. Low 20's at best. LA, OKC, Spurs, Houston with NENE are all better than Dallas out west. Bulls, Heat, Celtics, Knicks are better than Dallas right now.
No. Fricking. Way.
1) Not many teams have been better than the Mavericks in the regular season. I'm not saying it matters for much, but as far as draft picks go, yes it does. LA Lakers need to make a trade before they are better than us in the West. OKC, maybe. Spurs and Houston? Get out of here man.. Bulls, Heat, sure, maybe. Celtics, Knicks? I'm not so sure.
2. Even if they were, that's a #25 pick. Any pick not in the top-10 is normally garbage unless you draft well.
They cant send out the Warriors pick they potientally have, to Orlando cause its earmarked for Utah. That Warriors pick is protected top7. And if the Nets got Dwight it would be the pick Utah got no matter what.[/quiote]
What the hell Warriors pick are you talking about?. The Nets have the Rockets first round pick, heavily protected, that's it.
Houston with Nene is a top 4 seed in the West, and that pick is prob in the same range as the Dallas pick would be.
You're high off your *++ if you think Nene/Kevin Martin/Scola are enough to get you the #4 seed.
NJ is owed a pick by Houston. Its likely to be similar in range to the Dallas pick if the Nets got Dwight, and the Rockets got Nene.
Okay, cool, but what does Nene have to do with any of this. What does this have to do with the Lakers trying to get Dwight more importantly, because that's what I'm asking here. You're trying to argue with me about the Nets and Dwight and the Warriors and I'm asking about the Lakers man.
As far as a Bynum for Howard trade. If the Offers are Bynum, Dallas pick and future Lakers pick vs Lopez and Houston's pick with Nene, and a future Nets first rounder the picks are closer to even. If you think Bynum is worth the risk, the picks are even, and Lopez needs an extension beyond the next 2 years. You take Bynum every time.
So the Dallas pick puts the Lakers over the edge?
I'm sorry, but that Dallas pick is worthless unless everyone on the Dallas roster has a career-ending injury,
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don't do it mitch.
bynum + gasol > dwight easily
go ahead and trade him for brook lopez, otis
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If the Lakers do that....RIP
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How is a top-20 protected pick better than a Houston Rockets top-14 protecting pick?
I'm literally scratching my head trying to wrap my head around what kind of argument you're trying to make man.
It comes down to how valuable you think that Dallas pick is.
You think the Mavericks will be worse than 10 teams this year? All homerism aside, hell no.
Out of the West, teams that will be high-seeds are Dallas, LAL, OKC, MEM. SAS and LAC (if they get Paul) will be up there too, but better than any of those four? Doubtful.
In the East, if the Nets get Dwight, sure, we can throw them into the question, but still, Chicago, Miami, Boston, New Jersey, and New York.
Chicago, Miami, Boston are all very good teams that are very likely to be up where the Mavericks are in terms of standings. New Jersey and New York are both two/three-trick ponies with very little depth at this point.
So, I still don't get what's so special about this pick that you're raving about.
So in other words, can someone please try and answer my question about how this TPE is better than trading Lamar Odom?
I'm literally scratching my head trying to wrap my head around what kind of argument you're trying to make man.
It comes down to how valuable you think that Dallas pick is.
You think the Mavericks will be worse than 10 teams this year? All homerism aside, hell no.
Out of the West, teams that will be high-seeds are Dallas, LAL, OKC, MEM. SAS and LAC (if they get Paul) will be up there too, but better than any of those four? Doubtful.
In the East, if the Nets get Dwight, sure, we can throw them into the question, but still, Chicago, Miami, Boston, New Jersey, and New York.
Chicago, Miami, Boston are all very good teams that are very likely to be up where the Mavericks are in terms of standings. New Jersey and New York are both two/three-trick ponies with very little depth at this point.
So, I still don't get what's so special about this pick that you're raving about.
So in other words, can someone please try and answer my question about how this TPE is better than trading Lamar Odom?
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yea thats dumb orlando is on crack.
but the more i hear people say bynum is worth the risk the more i have to laugh. i mean if he was worth the risk we wouldnt be trying to trade him
but the more i hear people say bynum is worth the risk the more i have to laugh. i mean if he was worth the risk we wouldnt be trying to trade him
