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CP3 only one year after Bron and Wade, and they both make it in with only 6-7 years on their resume
Nah, 2 years after Bron and Wade. CP3 has only played 4 years.
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CP3 only one year after Bron and Wade, and they both make it in with only 6-7 years on their resume
Nah, 2 years after Bron and Wade. CP3 has only played 4 years.
kobe was fortunate enough and had a co-star in shaq...i honestly think kobe did more than shaq during those 3 peat years...he was a top defenderand he ran the offense but there is no doubt shaq was our go to guy...kg's wolves were not beating our Lakers in the early decade but that doesnt mean hedidnt carry that weak team to the playoffs every year...look at his numbers simply amazing...not only does have an MVP but he is also a DPOY...also dude canbasically play all positions...hes very versitle i still hate him thoughOriginally Posted by JsindaA
Yeah he was great in Minny.....while Kobe was great, alongside the most dominant player in the league at the time, and got BETTER when Shaq left. They both have an MVP (Kobe should have like 2) and a ring. Kobe has a finals MVP, 4 rings, and has played in 6 finals. There really is no argument for KG over Kobe. None.
I agree with your points too man about playoffs success. Speaking of Mike Finley, really wish my dude Mitch Richmond could have been on the Kingswith Webber and the rest of the crew. Oh wells, at least dude got a ring with the Lakers...Originally Posted by JapanAir21
Nicedude, I can see where you're coming from, but personally I can't put a guy in a top 10 list if he hasn't done anything in the post-season to bump up his rep.
Good thing Mike wasn't in here, dude is so dyslexic that he calls Pau Gasol, Paul Gasol.
Paul Pierece, Paul Gasol, Chris Paul,
Originally Posted by JapanAir21
Paul Pierece, Paul Gasol, Chris Paul,
He should but people will use the C's absolutely sucking as a reason not to.....Originally Posted by SHUGES
Originally Posted by JapanAir21
Paul Pierece, Paul Gasol, Chris Paul,
And yet I STILL don't see too many people giving reasons why Paul Pierce should NOT be in the top 10.
At least CP acknowledged that he should be in the running at the very least.
I did, I don't know if you skimmed over it or not, but I said he's on the cusp. He's 11-12 for me, he'd be ahead of Tracy, andeither 11th or 12th depending on where I'd place Chauncey.Originally Posted by SHUGES
And yet I STILL don't see too many people giving reasons why Paul Pierce should NOT be in the top 10.Originally Posted by JapanAir21
Paul Pierece, Paul Gasol, Chris Paul,
At least CP acknowledged that he should be in the running at the very least.
Irrelevant? 22 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, a block and a half, and a steal and a half means he's irrelevant? His team may have beenirrelevant, but certainly not himself.Originally Posted by encore2007
KG was irrelevant a few years before he went to B-Town. I honestly don't think he's top 3
Top 10 Players of the Decade According to Adjusted Plus Minus*
*My partner Jeff Sagarin and I believe in evaluating players based on how they impact the score of the game and the chance of the team winning We find the set of player ratings that best fit the scores of the game segments which hare defined by who is on the floor.(ex. PER) We call this Adjusted , since we modify the old hockey measure to adjust for who you play with and who you play against.
Based on our ratings from 2000-2009 here are the top 10 players of the decade.
[h1] [/h1] [h2]Top 10 Players of the Decade[/h2]
1.KG +11.7
2.Duncan +11.2
3. LeBron James +10.9
4. Dirk +10.4
5. Wade +8.9
6. Chris Paul +8.6
7. Kobe Bryant +8.4
8. Stockton +8.2
9. Manu Ginobili +7.5
10. Rasheed Wallace +7.5
Of course, you say, why is Rasheed Wallace here? In his prime (2001-2006), Rasheed averaged a +10 rating. How can he be better than Shaq? First of all Shaq's best years were in the 1990's. Remember Rasheed's team beat Kobe and Shaq in the championship. This only happened after the Pistons traded for Rasheed. If Kobe and Shaq were so great how could this happen? By the way, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen are #17 and #18 for the decade, so it looks like this year's Celtics have 4 legitimate Hall of Fame Candidates (although they are all probably past their prime). Rasheed's technical fouls propensity may prevent him from being realized for the great player that he was (is?), but the numbers speak for themselves.
Food for thought, this doesn't take into account how long they have played though.
Rasheed
His high plus minus probably has something to do with the fact that he draws shot blockers away from the bucket making it easier for his team to score.
I NaSmatic I wrote:
Duncan
Shaq
Kobe
Garnett
Kidd
Dirk
LeBron
Iverson
Nash
Wade
Originally Posted by LamarOwnsem
Irrelevant? 22 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, a block and a half, and a steal and a half means he's irrelevant? His team may have been irrelevant, but certainly not himself.Originally Posted by encore2007
KG was irrelevant a few years before he went to B-Town. I honestly don't think he's top 3
Originally Posted by kvsm23vs24
Kobe does have a legitamate chance of being number 1 tho........ No.
4 rings........ Yes Shaq was the go to guy but Kobes averages were VERY good to being just a second to him. As a 21 year old he whooped Indianas Reggie during OT.
Pyear in and year out All 1st team and Defensive.
3 All Star MVPs
1 Mvp
1 Finals MVP
6 Finals appearances
2 time Scoring Champion with an 81, 65, 62, 60 multiple 50s a streak of 40pt games. Tied makes in most 3s. Most points in a half.
Tim is GREAT as well but y'all make it seem like Kobe doesn't have a chance. Since 05 timmy has always had a great team. And the begining of the decade he had a great defensive Man in DR.
they're both interchangeable
Originally Posted by B1acMan365
1. T-Mac(when healthy)
2. Kidd
3. Wade
4. TD
5. KG
6. AI
7. Dirk
8. Lebron
9. Billups
10.[+]Kobe
He did say no particular order in the title part or w/e.Originally Posted by Lakersfan1
Originally Posted by B1acMan365
1. T-Mac(when healthy)
2. Kidd
3. Wade
4. TD
5. KG
6. AI
7. Dirk
8. Lebron
9. Billups
10.[+]Kobemy exact reaction how can you say Kobe is behind Billups Lebron Dirk AI Wade Kidd Tmac is a joke AND NO SHAQ? you sir need to quit posting