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[hombrelobo]

Originally Posted by Peep Game

Originally Posted by 4wrestling

Originally Posted by hombrelobo

Sorry, but I'm 100% against you guys on this one.  I won't argue like I did with A-Ry (because A-Ry was never over and sucked in every aspect).  Ryder was at least over with the crowd, but he is really not that good in the ring.  Plus, WWE is determined to bury him.  He got over on his own, and Vince hates stars that he didn't create.  Look how much of a geek they've turned him into over the past few weeks.  I just don't see him ever getting a real push.  If I'm wrong on this one, then good for Ryder.  I don't think he has what it takes to be a main eventer, but he could definitely be a solid midcard guy.

The crowd would beg to differ.

A-Ry was only over because of the rub he got from the Miz. That's it. Ultimately, though, him beating the Miz at Capitol Punishment did nothing for either guy. In fact, I think it put a complete 180 on Miz's momentum in the WWE.

 

[thedeek]

Okay that pg comment got a laugh out of me

 

[4wrestling]

Originally Posted by hombrelobo

Originally Posted by 4wrestling

Originally Posted by hombrelobo

This. Zack will be big in 2012.


Sidenote- I'm ready to admit I made a bad call about A-Ry. #@+% that guy.

Sorry, but I'm 100% against you guys on this one.  I won't argue like I did with A-Ry (because A-Ry was never over and sucked in every aspect).  Ryder was at least over with the crowd, but he is really not that good in the ring.  Plus, WWE is determined to bury him.  He got over on his own, and Vince hates stars that he didn't create.  Look how much of a geek they've turned him into over the past few weeks.  I just don't see him ever getting a real push.  If I'm wrong on this one, then good for Ryder.  I don't think he has what it takes to be a main eventer, but he could definitely be a solid midcard guy.

He needs to evolve a lot. Like I said, this title change will likely be for the best. He needs to work on a lot, you're right. But he has natural charisma. He seriously needs promo work. He has the catchphrase thing down, but that's it. He needs improve class to improve his timing and delivery of lines. He fumbles his words too much. His wildlines are terrible, too. On top of that WWE still doesn't know how to book him. (See tire changing fiasco

)

With all that said, he's young and will improve. He'll be fine as a midcarder for now.

I'm just saying, I think WWE knows exactly what they're doing with how they're booking him.  They got their few months of big merchandise sales out of him.  They tried to pair him with Cena to help Cena get cheers.  And now, they are going to punish him for getting himself over on his own and book him as a geek/loser.
Based on what WWE is doing, I think he's jobber status within a month or two.

 

[mister916]

 

[Peep Game]

Face R-Truth and Vince's idea of "Little Jimmy merchandise" has fail written all over it.

 

[essential1]

I don't even know if that was PG...

Crazy Truth is hilarious

 

[4wrestling]

Originally Posted by hombrelobo

Originally Posted by Peep Game

Originally Posted by 4wrestling

Sorry, but I'm 100% against you guys on this one.  I won't argue like I did with A-Ry (because A-Ry was never over and sucked in every aspect).  Ryder was at least over with the crowd, but he is really not that good in the ring.  Plus, WWE is determined to bury him.  He got over on his own, and Vince hates stars that he didn't create.  Look how much of a geek they've turned him into over the past few weeks.  I just don't see him ever getting a real push.  If I'm wrong on this one, then good for Ryder.  I don't think he has what it takes to be a main eventer, but he could definitely be a solid midcard guy.

The crowd would beg to differ.

A-Ry was only over because of the rub he got from the Miz. That's it. Ultimately, though, him beating the Miz at Capitol Punishment did nothing for either guy. In fact, I think it put a complete 180 on Miz's momentum in the WWE.

Thank you.

 

[brasilianmami]

Originally Posted by Peep Game

Originally Posted by 4wrestling

Originally Posted by hombrelobo

Sorry, but I'm 100% against you guys on this one.  I won't argue like I did with A-Ry (because A-Ry was never over and sucked in every aspect).  Ryder was at least over with the crowd, but he is really not that good in the ring.  Plus, WWE is determined to bury him.  He got over on his own, and Vince hates stars that he didn't create.  Look how much of a geek they've turned him into over the past few weeks.  I just don't see him ever getting a real push.  If I'm wrong on this one, then good for Ryder.  I don't think he has what it takes to be a main eventer, but he could definitely be a solid midcard guy.

The crowd would beg to differ.

 

[veintisiete]

Teddy on cue with the tag match announcement


EDIT: Teddy with the swerve!

 

[bkmac]

"I don't even know if that's PG!" 

Teddy Long sighting. Playa.

 

[mister916]

This isn't in the Teddy Long chart...

 

[thedeek]

GOD, GET TEDDY LONG AWAY FROM MY TV.

 

[Peep Game]

Originally Posted by hombrelobo

Originally Posted by Peep Game

Originally Posted by 4wrestling

Sorry, but I'm 100% against you guys on this one.  I won't argue like I did with A-Ry (because A-Ry was never over and sucked in every aspect).  Ryder was at least over with the crowd, but he is really not that good in the ring.  Plus, WWE is determined to bury him.  He got over on his own, and Vince hates stars that he didn't create.  Look how much of a geek they've turned him into over the past few weeks.  I just don't see him ever getting a real push.  If I'm wrong on this one, then good for Ryder.  I don't think he has what it takes to be a main eventer, but he could definitely be a solid midcard guy.

The crowd would beg to differ.

A-Ry was only over because of the rub he got from the Miz. That's it. Ultimately, though, him beating the Miz at Capitol Punishment did nothing for either guy. In fact, I think it put a complete 180 on Miz's momentum in the WWE.

True, but that match doing nothing to springboard him is more the WWE forgetting he's on the roster than his actual doing.

 

[stillin729]

every skin color on earth is in that ring

 

[rusty shackelford]

Originally Posted by StillIn729

I think I counted like 7 dead people in that 92 RR video 

Damn.
Bulldog

Hercules

Kerry Von Erich

Bossman

Machoman

 

[Case]

Originally Posted by brasilianmami

on a sidenote - i'm so glad WWE calmed down with the twitter references.

Gotdamn you brasil..Now you done jinxed it and thats all Cole is gonna talk about..

 

[brasilianmami]

i'm all for my people not playing an off the wall, stereotypical, racially charged character in the WWE, but goddamnit i can't stand Teddy Long.

 

[4wrestling]

God I hate this R-Truth character.  He was so good as a serious heel back at Capital Punishment.  Sorry TennHouse.
I can't believe they put this on at the top of the hour.  This segment is going to die in the ratings.

 

[hombrelobo]

Originally Posted by 4wrestling

I'm just saying, I think WWE knows exactly what they're doing with how they're booking him.  They got their few months of big merchandise sales out of him.  They tried to pair him with Cena to help Cena get cheers.  And now, they are going to punish him for getting himself over on his own and book him as a geek/loser.
Based on what WWE is doing, I think he's jobber status within a month or two.

He lost tonight, but I don't think he looked like a loser. We'll see what happens. Only time will tell.

Sidenote- I don't think WWE ever knows exactly what their doing.

 

[brasilianmami]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I don't even know if that's PG!" 

Teddy Long sighting. Playa.

That line had me 

 

[stillin729]

Originally Posted by Rusty Shackelford

Originally Posted by StillIn729

I think I counted like 7 dead people in that 92 RR video 

Damn.
Bulldog

Hercules

Kerry Von Erich

Bossman

Machoman

Curt Henning and Earthquake 

 

[Case]

Originally Posted by brasilianmami

Originally Posted by Anonymous

"I don't even know if that's PG!" 

Teddy Long sighting. Playa.

That line had me 

  

..I see what you did there...

 

[4wrestling]

It's so funny how WWE brags about trending, and when you click on the trending topics, everything is people talking negative.
Sheamus, pounding your chest is not getting over with the crowd.  You're not HBK.

 

[Peep Game]

Where the hell that Brogue Kick come from

??

Cena still corny

 

[brasilianmami]

damnit.... they got him shuckin' and jivin' again...