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My last paragraph just has to do with my overall view of Canibus the rapper regardless of battle rapping. I think he's garbage. Always did. However, had he produced a good diss track I would've gave him props for that diss. Not base the fact that he's dissing J. Cole on whether or not he's relevant now or if he had a good career in hip hop.Originally Posted by LuketheJediKnight
Your last paragraph is the point I'm getting at. It IS opinion when it's all said and done, but it's alot easier to look better with a diss when you're at least hot and/or got a solid and loyal fanbase. Nowadays, Canibus is lacking in both areas espeically compared to Cole. Any "amazing" diss (which is again, an opinion) is gonna be met with yawns from much of Cole's fanbase, especially those who don't care about beef and who also point to what the two rappers are currently doing. You just look salty if anything else.Originally Posted by ATGD7154xBBxMZ
I didn't say any of that. I said if the diss was actually good the responses would be different. J. Cole isn't on the status where he can just straight up ignore a good diss coming his way.Originally Posted by LuketheJediKnight
Keep acting like the two aren't related
You think public perception and career standing don't play a factor? Canibus could rip J Cole with 1000 bars, at the end of the day, he's Canibus. And the rest of the mainstream music world couldn't care a +%+# less.
That's probably one of the main problems with rappers separating themselves when it comes to a rap battle. You'd claim a rapper isn't good enough to get a response because of their career or status instead of the quality of the rapper and the diss track where'd use excuses about who's "relevant". You just be straight up saying you don't like diss tracks or rap battles and you're okay if one of your fav rappers simply isn't good at it.
Of course it is my opinion that diss or not, Canibus was never a good rapper to begin with and that speaks volumes much more than if he had a good career or not with said trash music.
At least we can agree that son's always been trash. Could never get into his music.
Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
this explanation letter tho
Currently, new artists such as J Cole have continuously mentioned me as their favorite artist, shouted me out in articles, magazine/online interviews, and even gone as far as starting off show sets by playing some of my earlier material to warm up the audience and give off the impression that he is real hip hop and loves real lyricism. Cole might say he does this to pay homage, but in reality, by him playing my older material owned by my former label dating back to 1998, subsequently overlooking my current works and contributions which directly benefit me now, he is treating me less like an artist that has, and continues to contribute, influence, and inspire an even younger generation of MC’s coming up, and more like an artist that has physically passed on already(i.e. Tupac, B.I.G., Big L, Heavy D, Eyeda): you get the point I’m trying to make. I can’t help but to think that he is not nearly as sincere or genuine as he would like real hip hop heads to think he is because he speaks about me like I am dead. What he is doing is underhanded and disingenuous and whether it is his idea or not, I don’t agree with his tactic and I have something to say about it.
Some might look to label me as an older head picking on a younger head who claims to have been influenced by me, but I refuse to let anyone including him stand on what we built, and pompously extract only the parts that suit them and their undermining intentions under the guise of “paying homage
Originally Posted by JesusShuttlesworth34
Canibus is not for everyone...he is probably one of the most gifted and talented lyricist of all time. His exchanges with the entire Wu-Tang Clan are legendary and his pedigree as a battle rapper is cemented.
Snowball affect here is in place...NT sheep still in full affect, good to see things don't change.
ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote:
if Cole is playing Canibus before his shows. Now I can understand why ppl dislike him.@ anyone who plays Canibus to warm up a crowd.
This and the "edit it on his sidekick" comment have me rolling.
Canibus has been wack since Em killed him. That LL diss was cool, but besides that and Stoupe's production on Rip the Jacker, he's wack.
Originally Posted by JR Paperstacks
@ that video...like...he wrote that down. he was...rehearsing. i'm not sure about life so much anymore.
and did he edit that on his sidekick?
Originally Posted by I Live In Texas
ATGD7154xBBxMZ wrote:
if Cole is playing Canibus before his shows. Now I can understand why ppl dislike him.@ anyone who plays Canibus to warm up a crowd.
Originally Posted by HelloHipHop4000
That video... This has to be trolling? How did that video even make it on the net
LBJ23navo wrote:
"I got the type of @*%* that make a hater say sorry"