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Originally Posted by awwsome
%!!* was ill.
Originally Posted by RavageBX
It's a lil more than that actually. You know Jay got the double entendre game on lock. "Wear a G on my chest" refers to Gucci but also being a G. Kind of an old hood saying, wearing a g on your chest like how people say you got an S on your chest in reference to superman. The next part of the lyric says "this ain't a sewn outfit". The sewn outfit is in reference to the gucci double entendre and at the same time its another double because he's saying his outfit (slang for a criminal organization) is not sewn it's criminal.Originally Posted by SEND ONE
In the mid/late 80's, rappers could'nt afford to buy Gucci and Louis so a harlem taylor named Dapper Dan, would make custom outfits that looked like Gucci for half the price. Like the pieces in that Eric B and Rakim cover Dre posted. All Jay was saying is that he CAN afford Gucci so he don't need Dapper Dan.Originally Posted by cartune
explain itOriginally Posted by RavageBX
I was gonna come back in an explain the lyrics a lil more but naaaaaah. I'm just let ya'll run wild with itwe all in here speculating too only *!%%% who knows is Jay stop acting like you write for the dude
Originally Posted by LESfamilia
So now that we know what that means... Any other lyrical analysis, Ravage?
ima go with 2)Originally Posted by Nike Star Jay
In a way, I'm all 4.Originally Posted by ScottHallWithAPick
I notice there's 4 sides to this
1) People who are ridiculous and thinks this means Jay is the devil
2) People who think Jay isnt dumb and is using this symbolism for a reason (not devil-worshipping related)
3) People who dismiss the whole notion and thinks it's dumb as hell and the people that believe anything Jay says can have a double meaning are ******ed
4) People who don't care either way and just enjoy the music
I'm still not fully convinced. Not saying you're wrong. I just dont see it as anything past the clothing reference. "Wear a G onmy chest" could either mean the brand of his shirt or that it cost him a "G". The word "outfit" really just refers to a group of ppl. Heard that word a lot when I did construction in the late 90's. Unless the word "sewn" has a different meaning? And "homes" is justshort for homeboy ( orale homes).Originally Posted by RavageBX
Easy to make that mistake if you don't account for the qualifying line after. "Holmes is about it", as in about this G isht for real.Originally Posted by SEND ONE
I never looked at that line the way you just described.....although it does make sense. I just took it as his *%%* ain't sewn the way Dapper's suits were. Like he had that authentic *%%* and not some joint son sewed together in the back of his shop....but then again this is Jay.Originally Posted by RavageBX
It's a lil more than that actually. You know Jay got the double entendre game on lock. "Wear a G on my chest" refers to Gucci but also being a G. Kind of an old hood saying, wearing a g on your chest like how people say you got an S on your chest in reference to superman. The next part of the lyric says "this ain't a sewn outfit". The sewn outfit is in reference to the gucci double entendre and at the same time its another double because he's saying his outfit (slang for a criminal organization) is not sewn it's criminal.Originally Posted by SEND ONE
In the mid/late 80's, rappers could'nt afford to buy Gucci and Louis so a harlem taylor named Dapper Dan, would make custom outfits that looked like Gucci for half the price. Like the pieces in that Eric B and Rakim cover Dre posted. All Jay was saying is that he CAN afford Gucci so he don't need Dapper Dan.Originally Posted by cartune
explain itOriginally Posted by RavageBX
I was gonna come back in an explain the lyrics a lil more but naaaaaah. I'm just let ya'll run wild with itwe all in here speculating too only *!%%% who knows is Jay stop acting like you write for the dude
not really - the "custom" stuff was big because it was just that...custom - it was all drug dealers and players wearing it so itwasn't about the price...GG/LV wasnt making hood inspired clothes so they made it themselves...DD made nike clothes before nike made clothes too...again itwasnt about the price...if anything they were paying moreOriginally Posted by SEND ONE
In the mid/late 80's, rappers could'nt afford to buy Gucci and Louis so a harlem taylor named Dapper Dan, would make custom outfits that looked like Gucci for half the price. Like the pieces in that Eric B and Rakim cover Dre posted. All Jay was saying is that he CAN afford Gucci so he don't need Dapper Dan.Originally Posted by cartune
explain itOriginally Posted by RavageBX
I was gonna come back in an explain the lyrics a lil more but naaaaaah. I'm just let ya'll run wild with itwe all in here speculating too only *!%%% who knows is Jay stop acting like you write for the dude
Originally Posted by SEND ONE
I'm still not fully convinced. Not saying you're wrong. I just dont see it as anything past the clothing reference. "Wear a G on my chest" could either mean the brand of his shirt or that it cost him a "G". The word "outfit" really just refers to a group of ppl. Heard that word a lot when I did construction in the late 90's. Unless the word "sewn" has a different meaning? And "homes" is just short for homeboy ( orale homes).Originally Posted by RavageBX
Easy to make that mistake if you don't account for the qualifying line after. "Holmes is about it", as in about this G isht for real.Originally Posted by SEND ONE
I never looked at that line the way you just described.....although it does make sense. I just took it as his *%%* ain't sewn the way Dapper's suits were. Like he had that authentic *%%* and not some joint son sewed together in the back of his shop....but then again this is Jay.Originally Posted by RavageBX
It's a lil more than that actually. You know Jay got the double entendre game on lock. "Wear a G on my chest" refers to Gucci but also being a G. Kind of an old hood saying, wearing a g on your chest like how people say you got an S on your chest in reference to superman. The next part of the lyric says "this ain't a sewn outfit". The sewn outfit is in reference to the gucci double entendre and at the same time its another double because he's saying his outfit (slang for a criminal organization) is not sewn it's criminal.Originally Posted by SEND ONE
In the mid/late 80's, rappers could'nt afford to buy Gucci and Louis so a harlem taylor named Dapper Dan, would make custom outfits that looked like Gucci for half the price. Like the pieces in that Eric B and Rakim cover Dre posted. All Jay was saying is that he CAN afford Gucci so he don't need Dapper Dan.Originally Posted by cartune
explain itOriginally Posted by RavageBX
I was gonna come back in an explain the lyrics a lil more but naaaaaah. I'm just let ya'll run wild with itwe all in here speculating too only *!%%% who knows is Jay stop acting like you write for the dude
I still think the lines are staright forward and in reference to his wealth and not needing to buy "custom" pieces when he can afford the real thing because he is about it and has the $.
Either way, damn you Rav for making me over analyze these lines.
not really - the "custom" stuff was big because it was just that...custom - it was all drug dealers and players wearing it so it wasn't about the price...GG/LV wasnt making hood inspired clothes so they made it themselves...DD made nike clothes before nike made clothes too...again it wasnt about the price...if anything they were paying more
^Yep. Dapper Dan made stuff for hip-hop artists because the high-end brands like LV, and Gucci weren't making anything that fit their style but they stillliked the logo's and image that came along with the brand. A lot of times he would even go out and purchase real items and remove the monograms and placethem on the new customized items, or so I've heard.
I get what your saying, but then again up until the mid/late 90's, no one was making "hood inspired" clothing. That's whatseperated us from the rest, we took things that were already on the market and put our spin on it.Originally Posted by Kingtre
not really - the "custom" stuff was big because it was just that...custom - it was all drug dealers and players wearing it so it wasn't about the price...GG/LV wasnt making hood inspired clothes so they made it themselves...DD made nike clothes before nike made clothes too...again it wasnt about the price...if anything they were paying more
Ehh man I ain't got all the answers lol. I've had the Weebay face many times. Somebody up that Jay-Z lyrics thread and we can have somefun with it if u want.Originally Posted by HipHopDoc09
Originally Posted by LESfamilia
So now that we know what that means... Any other lyrical analysis, Ravage?
Originally Posted by IKnowRap
Touché. So what was the overall direction Jay was looking for?
He gave me a very loose brief, and made it clear that we should be progressive with the video. All the imagery was thought up by me and was a response to the track itself. For those interested, the idea is actually about a funeral for old imagery and ideas, hence all the gothic and oppressive stuff. I was also trying to contradict the excess of hip-hop videos by making something brutally simple and claustrophobic.
The interpretation can go as far or as shallow as your knowledge base.Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV
Bottom line....there's mad symbolism in there. The video basically served as a ritual, wrapping up last year and preparing for the new year. Tarot/playing card, burning of objects associated with Jay's finance, The burning ball traveling to Malkuth, 00 on the girls jersey, the joker symbolism. Its real layered and works on a couple different levels. Pretty ingenious stuff in there.
The floor and officers represented Sephiroth, and initiation from 0=0 to 5=6 represented the upward ascent from Malkuth to Tiphareth.
Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV
Ace of Spades: One chapter comes to a close, but another begins.