Uber Driver killed by 13 and 15 yr old in DC

[ksteezy]

Another blatant misrepresentation here. No one is saying parenting isn't a factor, we're saying we don't have enough information to confidently assert that at the present moment.

Stay on the bus.

that’s why I said, is worth taking a look into it and if found that the parents were in fact negligent/absent specially when considering one already had a history with car jacking, then are you guys really opposed to some type of accountability for the parent as well?

 

[Kinfolk]

that’s why I said, is worth taking a look into it and if found that the parents were in fact negligent/absent specially when considering one already had a history with car jacking, then are you guys really opposed to some type of accountability for the parent as well?

yes lol

 

[6pac]

you know, manslaughter charges do exist even if you're not a cop....

This a bar....

 

[ksteezy]

Specially considering the Max punishment these girls will get is basically a few years and prison and will walk out with their whole lives to live still and at this point, all we can hope is that the juvie system does a better job at teaching them right from wrong than their parents did....I’m not sure I like those odds, given how much emphasize this country actually puts into rehabilitation of offenders.

 

[ksteezy]

yes lol

I guess **** the victim and his family then

 

[Kinfolk]

Specially considering the Max punishment these girls will get is basically a few years and prison

You’re either repeating an uniformed take from a questionable news outlet or you need more sleep.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

I guess **** the victim and his family then

How did you get that from his response?

Why are you determined to die on this hill?

If one of the parents was making a ******* bologna sandwich at the time of the crime....what do you feel like should happen?

 

[Kinfolk]

I guess **** the victim and his family then

The gymnastics routine that you’re putting on for us in this thread is gold medal worthy.

 

[Comparison Ford]

I guess **** the victim and his family then

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I think you'd be very hard-pressed to find anyone here that sympathizes with the girls more than they sympathize with the dude.

You can sympathize with the dude while simultaneously thinking that treating 13-15 year olds as adults isn't the best approach to their treatment if rehabilitation is the ultimate goal of our criminal justice system.

Right.

Not sure why this has been made out to be an either or situation.

Side with Kids vs. Side with the old man.

Pure entertainment though.

 

[Comparison Ford]

Right.

Not sure why this has been made out to be an either or situation.

Side with Kids vs. Side with the old man.

Pure entertainment though.

Steezy has a wide arsenal of logical fallacies at his disposal for any given argument.

Appeal to extremes, appeal to emotions, strawmen, etc. You name it, he's got it.

 

[wr]

Steezy has a wide arsenal of logical fallacies at his disposal for any given argument.

Appeal to extremes, appeal to emotions, strawmen, etc. You name it, he's got it.

 

[Mark Antony]

Ya'll should know is is what is is with steezy. Is come through chest all bulging out too.

 

[cedric ceballos]

If you want a case where the parents behavior was an enabler, look at the Ethan Couch case and how his mother enabled and encouraged his stupid behavior AFTER he got off with a slap on the wrist for driving drunk and killing people. So yeah. There are situations where the parents and how they raise the kid plays a part in the kids destructive teenage behavior.

But every case is different. We don’t know anything about the parents or parent of these kids to cast judgment on the parents either way right now. Who knows, perhaps the Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Perhaps the parents are good people, trying to work numerous jobs and doing everything they can to support their family. It’s parents who’ve done everything to put their kids in the best situations, but the kids still end up finding trouble.

 

[ksteezy]

How did you get that from his response?

Why are you determined to die on this hill?

If one of the parents was making a ****ing bologna sandwich at the time of the crime....what do you feel like should happen?

Clearly missing the point, ONE OF THEM IS A REPEAT OFFENDER, meaning at the ripe age of 15 or 13 she’s already been in the system and the parents had their warning to do whatever it took to straighten her *** up, that’s what a slap on the wrist is for, she got a second chance, the parents got their warning, nobody saying monitor their every move, all I’m saying is the parents involvement in their life specially after the first time one of them was caught up, needs to be investigated, if the parents just kept it moving, business as usual, knowing their teenager needed help/extra attention, YES THEY SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

 

[vood99]

Video was tough to watch, the car door slams on him twice as they speed off on top of him being tasered. Then the blunt force trauma of being thrown against the building wall.

I highly doubt any type of CPR could've saved his life.

 

[ksteezy]

Steezy has a wide arsenal of logical fallacies at his disposal for any given argument.

Appeal to extremes, appeal to emotions, strawmen, etc. You name it, he's got it.

All love for ya Eitherway, ya have taught me a lot about myself and in many occasions made me a better man...I appreciate all the disagreements and discussions and interactions, yes some topics get me hot, maybe this taps into my own history of my dad dying at the hands of a reckless driver who dragged him for 4 blocks and took off and left him for dead and was never caught....yes I’d want EVERYONE to pay, what I see here is more of a discussion of some level of sympathy towards the girls who killed him because of their age and even race, and not as much talks of the life lost and the family left behind to put the pieces back together....if this in any way a reflection of bad parenting I’d want it looked at, specially considering the max punishment for these girls really don’t match up with the loss on the other side.

 

[Comparison Ford]

Video was tough to watch, the car door slams on him twice as they speed off on top of him being tasered. Then the blunt force trauma of being thrown against the building wall.

I highly doubt any type of CPR could've saved his life.

Hard to really say considering we don't know the actual extent of his injuries, but it's sure as **** more effective than the 0% efficacy of not providing CPR.

 

[vood99]

Hard to really say considering we don't know the actual extent of his injuries, but it's sure as **** more effective than the 0% efficacy of not providing CPR.

Fair enough, RIP to him.

 

[ksteezy]

Yeah someone should have gone over to check dudes pulse at the very least....all these military cats just flat out ignored his body, seem like they were actually helping the girls till the witnesses came over yelling they had stole the car..

 

[Zainjal26]

Just curious on the people who are saying “ hope these 2 girls get rehabilitated get the help they need”
on if y’all saw the part where when the dude is lying with his face on the floor the girl asks if her phone is ok









I don’t want to start a whole conversation on how much time they should get but at that point I think we are past rehabilitation

 

[6pac]

Just curious on the people who are saying “ hope these 2 girls get rehabilitated get the help they need”
on if y’all saw the part where when the dude is lying with his face on the floor the girl asks if her phone is ok









I don’t want to start a whole conversation on how much time they should get but at that point I think we are past rehabilitation

***** it’s a 13 year old

stop saying this over and over

10-20 years is a long *** time where you can make that decision about what to do with them then.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Just curious on the people who are saying “ hope these 2 girls get rehabilitated get the help they need”
on if y’all saw the part where when the dude is lying with his face on the floor the girl asks if her phone is ok
I don’t want to start a whole conversation on how much time they should get but at that point I think we are past rehabilitation

Yea because "At THAT point" is guaranteed to be a reflection of her entire life.

Make it make sense man.

 

[Zainjal26]

***** it’s a 13 year old

stop saying this over and over

10-20 years is a long *** time where you can make that decision then.

13 year olds have compassion for others. her Asking if her phone was ok was pure heartless

 

[Zainjal26]

Yea because "At THAT point" is guaranteed to be a reflection of her entire life.

Make it make sense man.

Not saying that
but her saying that at that time was despicable