Uber Driver killed by 13 and 15 yr old in DC

“Didn’t mean to”

ooooooooo..... ok, no harm no foul then 🤷🏽‍♂️

Let’s play this fair. When those white kids threw rocks into the highway y’all wanted them dead. JS 🤷🏽‍♂️

killing someone is killing someone
Didnt mean to KILL him. Just wanted to taze the old man and steal his car. He has insurance and GPS, shouldve just gave it up.
 
They came up and tasered this man...they knew what it was about. Did they expect him to die? Prob not. But they didn’t leave it at the car, they attacked dude while trying to take it. If they would’ve left after dude didn’t give up the car and he somehow died another way like getting hit standing in the street or whatever, I wouldn’t feel as strongly about it, but they literally killed him.

They definitely deserve some serious time, don’t think 25-life, but definitely at least 5 iPhones generations gotta pass.
 
But when it comes to sentencing, intent matters.

Murder vs. Manslaughter.

So you can't really dismiss the intent of the act.
Ironically, you guys are making the same arguments the police make when they kill people.

I’m not talking about what their sentence is going to be. We all know how that stuff works
 
Ironically, you guys are making the same arguments the police make when they kill people.

I’m not talking about what their sentence is going to be. We all know how that stuff works

I don't really see how. No one in here said the girls should be free from the consequences of their actions. These police get a paid vacation and get to walk.
 
Ironically, you guys are making the same arguments the police make when they kill people.

I’m not talking about what their sentence is going to be. We all know how that stuff works

I can see that, you are right about that.

But I think people are only referencing intent in response to those that brought up life sentencing. Before those comments were made, nobody mentioned intent.
 
“Didn’t mean to”

ooooooooo..... ok, no harm no foul then 🤷🏽‍♂️

Let’s play this fair. When those white kids threw rocks into the highway y’all wanted them dead. JS 🤷🏽‍♂️

killing someone is killing someone

Not the same and is a poor comparison.
 
Didnt mean to KILL him. Just wanted to taze the old man and steal his car. He has insurance and GPS, shouldve just gave it up.
Nah i agree with you man. Thats just some of the logic being used in this thread.

Their actions that day resulted in his death.
But when it comes to sentencing, intent matters.

Murder vs. Manslaughter.

So you can't really dismiss the intent of the act.

I really struggle with second degree murder or involuntary manslaughter on this one. It might depend on if the driver was the one who had the previous carjacking charge. The jury could see that prior and consider it as malice afterthought and bump it to second degree murder.

I can already see this thread dying down later in 2021 then a few years from now there will be a bump when they are sentenced :lol:
 
Finally watched the video and saw this thread was BUSY yesterday :lol: . I agree what these girls did was deplorable regardless of race but if we’re going to keep it 100, if they were chicks white they are skating on involuntary manslaughter. But they’re not so the driver will get second degree murder and her homegirl in the passenger seat will get :smh: the same or MAYBE felony murder.

As far as sentencing, I agree with the give them a decade minimum then re-evaluate. The problem with this rehabilitation program path y’all are talking about is that they’re not foolproof (obviously). Like they could be fine in prison for 10 years but it’s not like there’s cars for them to steal there or other dumb **** to do. I haven’t worked with folks who’ve gone through programs like that or researched their success rate but in my gut, I’m dubious. I am also aware that when you’re locked up there are plenty of other ways to get in trouble but these are 13/15 year old girls in there for carjacking. They aren’t about THAT life. Unless of course they really go off the deep end or get manipulated by adults when they’re 18 and go to prison (assuming they’re put away past that age).

Another thing....there are two INSANE talking points being supported in here. The first being that the parents should go to jail for “poor parenting.” FOH. You can teach your kid right and wrong but you can’t act for them. It comes down to how they’re wired. I believe we react to things based on our life experiences and while parenting lessons are part of that that, kids are in school for ~8 hours/day, they now are glued to their phones/social media, they’re watching whatever on TV, etc. Even if you limit their media consumption, you don’t know what they’re going into at school. Furthermore there are countless cases of solid individuals whose kids just turn out to be **** ups or one kid is exemplary and the other is a POS. I even believe a poster said that’s the face in his family. Coming at the parents off strength when you know absolutely nothing about them and very little about the girls except for a prior is reckless.

The second ridiculous talking point is folks saying “If it was me, I would have just given up the car.” That’s super simple to say in hindsight. Personally, I have always maintained that if someone tried to catch me leaving the club, a restaurant, walking back to my hotel, etc that I would give them my watch, wallet, money clip, car or whatever they wanted with no smoke because they can be replaced. However, never having experienced that situation even in practice, in the moment it’s actually hard to say what I would actually do. I think we all can admit that when emotions (fear, anger, excitement, happiness, etc) take over our bodies that it can cloud our judgment and make us act uncharacteristically. Any commentary on what you would/he should have done is merely a postmortem that at best might help prepare someone who reads your post if they find themselves in that situation one day and at worst it absolves the girls of blame/makes Anwar look bad by making it seem as if he made a glaringly poor decision despite being in a situation no one could have foreseen and an infinitesimal amount of people will ever encounter.

RIP Anwar.
Reminds me of something that happened near me recently.

White Girl 25, hit and run, biker died. Lied about it to police and insurance said she was the victim of a hit and run in a parking lot.

Ended up getting 1 year house arrest during covid. 2/3 years license suspended :smh:


Canadian judicial system lenient af though.
 
Reminds me of something that happened near me recently.

White Girl 26, hit and run, biker died. Lied about it to police and insurance said she was the victim of a hit and run in a parking lot.

Ended up getting 1 year house arrest during covid. 2/3 years license suspended :smh:


Canadian judicial system lenient af though.

QU!K QU!K this is Canada - you know our system is a joke.
 
How yall know they got parents in their lives? People take a lot of **** for granted. The owner may have been trying to let go after she drove off and got hemmed up someway? Not saying in anyway that these girls should not be held responsible for their actions.
 
A few things......

1. I don’t think anyone in here was trying to blame the victim....but when folks say “he should have gave them the car” it kinda comes across as blaming the victim. For all we knew his car could have been completed paid off....and who would want to go threw the trouble of filing an insurance claim, not getting what the car is worth or the money that you put into it, or having to make monthly car payment potentially.

2. Generally speaking given the actions of the girls I would be surprised if these girls get even a 3 year sentence......5 years max......Welcome to DC. That being said however this is now a NATIONAL story with that I can see the girls being made an example of given the National exposure DC’s court system will face with the eyes of the nation watching this case.

3. Originally the victim’s family was only looking to raise $100,00....which they did and surpassed. Now with the extra money the family has raised up to almost $800,00 as of now the family is looking to sue DC with the extra money raised for letting these kids out even after being arrested recently. Not sure how far that will go as that will be tied up in the court system but the family definitely now has the money to push that as far as they would like to.
 
How yall know they got parents in their lives? People take a lot of **** for granted. The owner may have been trying to let go after she drove off and got hemmed up someway? Not saying in anyway that these girls should not be held responsible for their actions.

they allegedly tasered dude so, he definitely lost control/consciousness more than likely
 
Not the same and is a poor comparison.
Also kinda silly to hold a 13 and 15 year old to the same standard as public servants.
Not killing someone is a standard for all people. That’s not debatable. Just pointing out how the tune changed for whatever reason for these two girls. Don’t get how this is choice for the hill to die on for some.

Again, what happens in a court of law means nothing to me. We all know how that BS can go down. I’m giving MY personal opinion
 
Hard to really say considering we don't know the actual extent of his injuries, but it's sure as **** more effective than the 0% efficacy of not providing CPR.
I heard something like if ems performs cpr on injured or sick individuals there's a chance they might break ribs, and they wouldn't be held responsible. Any of this true?
 
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