Top Nike designer (Tinker Hatfield) can’t stand LeBron’s entourage

I feel like the Lebron line has gone down hill after the Vs
 
Savraj1:
Well at least South Beach viii's are better than any pair of kobes. 
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empirestrikesfirst:
Pink and Turquoise is not a good look.
I'm saying.
 
Originally Posted by Bean Pie Slanga


Why didn't he tell Lebron to tell his crew to kick rocks? Maybe he risks his job but you gotta stand up for your work.

i think he made or took a bigger stand by sayin i will not work with the brand's biggest athlete due to this. 
 
Originally Posted by Bean Pie Slanga


Why didn't he tell Lebron to tell his crew to kick rocks? Maybe he risks his job but you gotta stand up for your work.

i think he made or took a bigger stand by sayin i will not work with the brand's biggest athlete due to this. 
 
Originally Posted by denni5themenace

Originally Posted by ryanbbn23

Originally Posted by denni5themenace

how old is this article? could have sworn i've read something similar to this before.

well it does mention "in the last six months"
and 

and appearances in miami.

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orly? there's no date on the article
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Yuku didn't post the wall of text I just posted.
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Anyway, most of you guys aren't going to read anyways (just posted it for those who might want to look into the backstories), so here are the Cliffs:

  • Yahoo! Sports article was posted April 11th.
  • Link inside Yahoo! Sports article was posted April 8th.
  • Link within the link inside the Yahoo! Sports article was posted October 27th of last year.
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  • You're right that you've probably read this somewhere else before since it's an old story.
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You can't really say which are better between Kobe's and Lebron's because both shoes are made for two type of players...

...One wants shoes that comfortable, responsive and lightweight while the other wants ones that are like Timberlands.

Pretty much.
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Originally Posted by denni5themenace

Originally Posted by ryanbbn23

Originally Posted by denni5themenace

how old is this article? could have sworn i've read something similar to this before.

well it does mention "in the last six months"
and 

and appearances in miami.

rif-logo-blue_large.gif

orly? there's no date on the article
grin.gif
Yuku didn't post the wall of text I just posted.
30t6p3b.gif
indifferent.gif


Anyway, most of you guys aren't going to read anyways (just posted it for those who might want to look into the backstories), so here are the Cliffs:

  • Yahoo! Sports article was posted April 11th.
  • Link inside Yahoo! Sports article was posted April 8th.
  • Link within the link inside the Yahoo! Sports article was posted October 27th of last year.
    laugh.gif
  • You're right that you've probably read this somewhere else before since it's an old story.
    laugh.gif
You can't really say which are better between Kobe's and Lebron's because both shoes are made for two type of players...

...One wants shoes that comfortable, responsive and lightweight while the other wants ones that are like Timberlands.

Pretty much.
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E3LAL wrote:
I feel like the Lebron line has gone down hill after the Vs


Thats cause he gained 20 lbs and started bottoming out his zoom air shoes
Designing a signature shoe is an intensive process for the designer and if you got 8 guys in the room spouting off what they think looks good in a shoe then it doesnt work.
Lebrons nike brand has had issues from day 1 though they have never sold like it was expected to sell.
and now they use the line exclusively to demonstrate new tech.
Dont get me wrong
Jordans line while he was playing did the same thing
III Vis air
VII Modified Hurrache
XI more responsive Nike air
XII full blown Zoom air
etc but inspirations were plenty and came from all different directions.
Whats more interesting is that Tinker has enough clout to straight up turn Lebron down.
 
E3LAL wrote:
I feel like the Lebron line has gone down hill after the Vs


Thats cause he gained 20 lbs and started bottoming out his zoom air shoes
Designing a signature shoe is an intensive process for the designer and if you got 8 guys in the room spouting off what they think looks good in a shoe then it doesnt work.
Lebrons nike brand has had issues from day 1 though they have never sold like it was expected to sell.
and now they use the line exclusively to demonstrate new tech.
Dont get me wrong
Jordans line while he was playing did the same thing
III Vis air
VII Modified Hurrache
XI more responsive Nike air
XII full blown Zoom air
etc but inspirations were plenty and came from all different directions.
Whats more interesting is that Tinker has enough clout to straight up turn Lebron down.
 
Originally Posted by K2theAblaM

Not surprising. Lebron hasn't made 1 good PR move in his entire career besides signing with Nike.


I believe that Lebron's first PR Firm , GSM, did the deal with Nike...... Maverick and the rest of the entourage had nothing to do with it.....
 
Originally Posted by K2theAblaM

Not surprising. Lebron hasn't made 1 good PR move in his entire career besides signing with Nike.


I believe that Lebron's first PR Firm , GSM, did the deal with Nike...... Maverick and the rest of the entourage had nothing to do with it.....
 
Originally Posted by RUDOLPH1996

Originally Posted by K2theAblaM

Not surprising. Lebron hasn't made 1 good PR move in his entire career besides signing with Nike.

I believe that Lebron's first PR Firm , GSM, did the deal with Nike...... Maverick and the rest of the entourage had nothing to do with it.....
Lebron owes Aaron Goodwin like 90% of the credit for the good will Lebron still has.
McDonalds is the only other good deal Lebron has made in his career
If you really want to sit and look at his marketing its terrible as far as image, but all he cares about is perks and money.

  
 
Originally Posted by RUDOLPH1996

Originally Posted by K2theAblaM

Not surprising. Lebron hasn't made 1 good PR move in his entire career besides signing with Nike.

I believe that Lebron's first PR Firm , GSM, did the deal with Nike...... Maverick and the rest of the entourage had nothing to do with it.....
Lebron owes Aaron Goodwin like 90% of the credit for the good will Lebron still has.
McDonalds is the only other good deal Lebron has made in his career
If you really want to sit and look at his marketing its terrible as far as image, but all he cares about is perks and money.

  
 
Originally Posted by Gottips3

So what who cares...tell tinker to stay with the whack Jordan brand and make poor quality shoes. With The Lebron Line we are getting PREMIUM quality.
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Originally Posted by Gottips3

So what who cares...tell tinker to stay with the whack Jordan brand and make poor quality shoes. With The Lebron Line we are getting PREMIUM quality.
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Honestly if you think about it, LeBron should be even bigger than he already is.

He was destined to be the next MJ and in a way has Lived up to the hyped at this STAGE in his career (Arguably).

I just feel LeBron doesn't have the APPEAL to fans that MJ had. Not even close
 
Honestly if you think about it, LeBron should be even bigger than he already is.

He was destined to be the next MJ and in a way has Lived up to the hyped at this STAGE in his career (Arguably).

I just feel LeBron doesn't have the APPEAL to fans that MJ had. Not even close
 
Originally Posted by Caerus

Honestly if you think about it, LeBron should be even bigger than he already is.

He was destined to be the next MJ and in a way has Lived up to the hyped at this STAGE in his career (Arguably).

I just feel LeBron doesn't have the APPEAL to fans that MJ had. Not even close


  I think thats more of the way sports reporting has changed than anything.
We know the night of if Lebron has been partying, it took 2 days to have Michael's Atlantic City debacle to be published.
We all knew that Michael was an rectum in 1992, but it just is not the same.
Winning then becoming an rectum is different than losing and being an rectum.
You add to that the idea that Lebron wants to be a billionare etc.
At least with Michael you knew that he loved the game ( or at least thats the illusion he kept til 1993) with Lebron its more so that hes big strong and he knew that basketball was more profitable than football.
 
Originally Posted by Caerus

Honestly if you think about it, LeBron should be even bigger than he already is.

He was destined to be the next MJ and in a way has Lived up to the hyped at this STAGE in his career (Arguably).

I just feel LeBron doesn't have the APPEAL to fans that MJ had. Not even close


  I think thats more of the way sports reporting has changed than anything.
We know the night of if Lebron has been partying, it took 2 days to have Michael's Atlantic City debacle to be published.
We all knew that Michael was an rectum in 1992, but it just is not the same.
Winning then becoming an rectum is different than losing and being an rectum.
You add to that the idea that Lebron wants to be a billionare etc.
At least with Michael you knew that he loved the game ( or at least thats the illusion he kept til 1993) with Lebron its more so that hes big strong and he knew that basketball was more profitable than football.
 
Wait, did Tinker design any of the Jordan Retros? Anything thats not a retro is pure trash. There were a few exceptions 7 or 8 years ago with some team shoes, and the dubs but 97% of them are terrible. All these fusions and what not, trash. Idk if its me but all the kids I see hyping up their new JORDANS!! its usually some whack %%$ team shoe fusion type air force one mixed with XIII trash.

Ive never read about the top designer of Nike or have reallyheard about Tinker so thats why im wondering if he's designed any of the retros.
 
Wait, did Tinker design any of the Jordan Retros? Anything thats not a retro is pure trash. There were a few exceptions 7 or 8 years ago with some team shoes, and the dubs but 97% of them are terrible. All these fusions and what not, trash. Idk if its me but all the kids I see hyping up their new JORDANS!! its usually some whack %%$ team shoe fusion type air force one mixed with XIII trash.

Ive never read about the top designer of Nike or have reallyheard about Tinker so thats why im wondering if he's designed any of the retros.
 
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