Thor: The Dark World (Movie Thread) 11/08/13

I wonder when they will bring in the enchantress..


And then they could bring in the executioner
 
Tesseract = Space

isn't the tessract Mind? Hence Lokis staff brainwashing people and it being the color Blue?

Nah, the gem in Lokis staff is a completely different gem and is blue, which is mind which makes sense because he used it for mind control.
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Though the Tesseract isn't purple like the space gem should be, you can also claim it is of different shade of blue? Also, it make sense to be the space gem as it allows people to travel through space by creating a portal?
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I just thought the tesseract was a cosmic cube. That's what they started calling it in the cartoon and a select few comics where cosmic cubes have shown up.
 
That is what I thought too but VOlstagg clearly said they "already have the tesseract in their vault and they don't need two infinity gems" as he hands off the aether (red) to the Collector.
 
Loved it. Loved Loki, Jane, Sif, the expanded role for Elba, Asgard, the humor was on point, even Rene Russo gettin down. Really well done.

And I liked the mid credit scene. Benicio is going to own that role, you can already tell. It just makes GotG seem that much bigger/scaled than an already large alien existence they've shown with Asgard. Guardians will be a "whole new world" in terms of what we'll be seeing/dealing with.
 
It seemed like an add-on that didn't fit because it was added by Marvel and was not directed by Alan Taylor and he wasn't very happy about it, I'd be pissed too if they added crap to a work I was proud of just to add an easter egg for the next film and it really was somewhat random.
Agreed. You could tell the style the scene was filmed was completely different from Thor. The Collector looked like David Bowie. The entire mid-credit scene looked like a low-budget sci-fi flick. I really, really hope that GotG doesn't look like that. I was not impressed with how that props in that scene looked very low budget.

But I did enjoy the movie and Tom Hiddleston is such a great actor.
 
Feige has confirmed that the Tesseract is indeed the space gem.

About the mid-credits teaser for Thor: The Dark World, Kevin Feige clarified that both the Aether and Tesseract are indeed Infinity Gems. But when he's asked exactly which gem - Soul, Time, Space, Mind, Reality, Power - the Tesseract is meant to be, the Marvel producer said, "It is [codified in the cinematic universe]. I don’t know when we’ll actually divulge that necessarily, but it’s the space stone." But will the gems be the focus of Guardians of the Galaxy, or is it going to come into play throughout Phase 3? "Well the answer to the first question is both. It is both. And then, you know? Who knows? If they allow us to keep making movies, it will go a little bit further."
 
Loved it. Loved Loki, Jane, Sif, the expanded role for Elba, Asgard, the humor was on point, even Rene Russo gettin down. Really well done.

That is partly why I like this film a lot, they made the tertiary characters as pretty bad-*sses. Heimdall takes down a whole ship by himself, Fr**** schooled Malekith and the Warrior 3 even had their time, albeit short, to shine. They even teased a Lady Sif and Thor spark there, though Thor wasn't too interested at the moment but you also saw some friction with her and Jane.
 
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Movie was beyond amazing and made me hate IM 3 that much more for being trash. The humor in the movie sold me, the dialogue was damn near on par with the dark knight/ dark knight rises. Every time Loki was on the screen I couldn't help but smile. Hiddleston stole the whole movie. (The dialogue between him and Anthony Hopkins in the beginning was CRAZY). Hemsworth is the real life Thor, I'm convinced. Kudos for Renee Russo getting down and showing her trickster skills at work (Loki's reaction to her dying :( ) For some odd reason I feel like Kat Dennings was the hottest chick in the movie. Jaime and Natalie can't hang :lol

Ok now for some questions. Pretty obvious that they would go the infinity gems route because that's what you think about when you think thanos, destruction, etc. What I don't get is them trying to say that the tesseract is one of the gems when it was suppose to be the cosmic cube (its even shaped like a cube :| ) the ending scene had me under the impression that Volstagg was saying that they had the tesseract AND as of right then and there 2 infinity gems before they handed 1 over to the collector (Benicio Del Toro is gonna be hilarious in that role) one being the mind gem which was in Loki's staff in Avengers and the other being the aether which I assumed was the reality gem. Now Feige is trying to insult our knowledge and say the cosmic cube is the space gem. I get that for cinematic purposes things have to change but hearing all this Netflix defenders series stuff and phase 2 hinting toward an infinity gauntlet I'm praying Feige has bitten off more than he can chew...
 
After thinking more about this movie I'm liking it more and more. Definitely the best sequel of the Avengers characters, even though that's not saying much with IM 2 and 3.
 
Just got back from watching it. Omfg this might be the best avengers movie I've seen.

Doing a movie marathon will post later.
 
Just got back from watching it. Omfg this might be the best avengers movie I've seen.

Doing a movie marathon will post later.

I agree. This is definitely a post avengers film. Makes me hate the way iron man 3 ended up turning out. But just imagine how crazy Cap 2 will be :eek
 
Ok now for some questions. Pretty obvious that they would go the infinity gems route because that's what you think about when you think thanos, destruction, etc. What I don't get is them trying to say that the tesseract is one of the gems when it was suppose to be the cosmic cube (its even shaped like a cube :| ) the ending scene had me under the impression that Volstagg was saying that they had the tesseract AND as of right then and there 2 infinity gems before they handed 1 over to the collector (Benicio Del Toro is gonna be hilarious in that role) one being the mind gem which was in Loki's staff in Avengers and the other being the aether which I assumed was the reality gem. Now Feige is trying to insult our knowledge and say the cosmic cube is the space gem. I get that for cinematic purposes things have to change but hearing all this Netflix defenders series stuff and phase 2 hinting toward an infinity gauntlet I'm praying Feige has bitten off more than he can chew...


To be fair, they never specifically called it a cosmic cube int he film, they may have referred to it as a cube but I do not recall them calling it cosmic at all and this might be the reason why.

The Tesseracts power really is different from the Cosmic Cube, the Avengers film clearly showed that it's power is to open up gateways for space travel which is just what the space gem does.

The Cosmic Cube is more like a container of cosmic power that eventually evolve into it's own being.

Marvel is at liberty to change things up, hate it or love it. Hell they called it Infinity Stones instead of gems and the Aether itself isn't really a stone/gem in the movie and they didn't even show Asgardians retrieving it but I guess we'll just assume they managed to contain it even though they clearly said in the film that it was always looking for a host.

Also, the Aether is the power gem since it is red but I am not sure Malekith was trying to alter reality. He seems to just want to force "darkness" into the 9 realms by spreading the Aether and you can say he is just doing it by sheer force? Pushing the light out? It did give Malekith a good amount of strength and invulnerability going toe-to-toe w/ Thor. Really wasn't sure how Malekith died while possessing the Aether when a few minutes before he was being struck by Mjolnir w/o much harm to him. Will have to see it again because that ending was kind of muddy, I mean I get it but the explanation and jargon needs multiple viewings so I can fully understand what was actually happening.
 
To be fair, they never specifically called it a cosmic cube int he film, they may have referred to it as a cube but I do not recall them calling it cosmic at all and this might be the reason why.

The Tesseracts power really is different from the Cosmic Cube, the Avengers film clearly showed that it's power is to open up gateways for space travel which is just what the space gem does.

The Cosmic Cube is more like a container of cosmic power that eventually evolve into it's own being.

Marvel is at liberty to change things up, hate it or love it. Hell they called it Infinity Stones instead of gems and the Aether itself isn't really a stone/gem in the movie and they didn't even show Asgardians retrieving it but I guess we'll just assume they managed to contain it even though they clearly said in the film that it was always looking for a host.

Also, the Aether is the power gem since it is red but I am not sure Malekith was trying to alter reality. He seems to just want to force "darkness" into the 9 realms by spreading the Aether and you can say he is just doing it by sheer force? Pushing the light out? It did give Malekith a good amount of strength and invulnerability going toe-to-toe w/ Thor. Really wasn't sure how Malekith died while possessing the Aether when a few minutes before he was being struck by Mjolnir w/o much harm to him. Will have to see it again because that ending was kind of muddy, I mean I get it but the explanation and jargon needs multiple viewings so I can fully understand what was actually happening.

Well put! Didnt think of the Aether being the power gem but it makes sense. Planning on seeing it again as well to fully understand the story they're trying to put in place but yeah that ending credit scene as exciting as it was may have contradicted some things. Still excited nonetheless. (Their is no way an infinity Gauntlet film can happen without FF, the Xmen and Spiderman, hmm.....)
 
I think they will still go with it even w/o those heroes, they are just going to be replaced by GotG and Dr Strange having a giagantic role.
 
man.. Iron man 3 had so much potential.. All the suits.. Good actors..

And then there was the final product





As was pointed out in the "how it should have ended".. Probably should started with the "house party protocol" when stark gave out his address
 
I think they will still go with it even w/o those heroes, they are just going to be replaced by GotG and Dr Strange having a giagantic role.



Yup.. Avengers, gotg and dr strange will be the main protagonist.. But I don't think Adam warlock was cast for the gotg movie
 
Yea.. Sadly, you would think someone would use common sense.. Have a partnership for 1-3 movies and call it that..


But then you have egos and all that
 
No choice.. Fox owns x-men and ff.. Sony Spider-Man

I know but money has to make these studios cooperate together. If for nothing else think about the potential they'll have for merchandising?! Just one movie, that's all I ask

You know how much of a problem that is going to be? It is easy to say you "get __%" and "you get __%" and such but so much legalities and profit sharing and investments, etc... Then it'll have too many chefs in the kitchen with how the story will go because of course you want your franchise character to be done right and shine too, they aren't going to let Marvel/Disney to simply dictate everything. It is just a giant mess.

You are better off putting it out of your head now since it has about 0.0000001% chance of happening.
 
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