THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP

Which team is most overrated? (Pick two)

  • Clippers

  • Celtics

  • Seventy Sixers

  • Bucks

  • Rockets

  • Nuggets

  • Jazz

  • Nets

  • Warriors

  • Pacers


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They filled out the team poorly because there was no money left over after maxing those 3 guys out. And even then those guys left a little on the table to facilitate the Miller/Haslem signings.

Plus the fact it was widely a thing where everyone was saying you could fill in those 2 slota with anyone and it wouldn’t matter because they had the Big 3.

You can let a fan come out and play with them. This was a thing in 2010.

I’d love to hear Lowe’s takes from 2010, might have to go relisten to some old pods.

It’s easy to make this commentary AFTER the fact.
 
wow they are actually going to do food deliveries? why not just bring in cooks to stay there for three months and have a dining hall? you really going to trust food coming out from the bubble?
 
That Heat team was more fun to watch than the next chapter Warriors. The heat were dominant but they would make it interesting and let teams compete with them before they flipped the switch. The dubs were dominant to the point of being boring the first 2 seasons and then the last season they didn't even care anymore.
 
Hard to fill out a roster when you have 3 guys making 75% of the cap. Add in UD and Chalmers they had 11 million to fill out the rest of the roster. You aren't going to get many players that are not vet minimums or or ring chasing vets that will take such miniscule salaries.

It was a calculated risk, he assumed his top level talent would carry the day. Bron didn't carry his water in 2011, that's why they lost to Dallas.

Lot of these media dudes wanna use hindsight and change the narratives from the moment.
 
They filled out the team poorly because there was no money left over after maxing those 3 guys out. And even then those guys left a little on the table to facilitate the Miller/Haslem signings.

Plus the fact it was widely a thing where everyone was saying you could fill in those 2 slota with anyone and it wouldn’t matter because they had the Big 3.

You can let a fan come out and play with them. This was a thing in 2010.

I’d love to hear Lowe’s takes from 2010, might have to go relisten to some old pods.

It’s easy to make this commentary AFTER the fact.
Any time you get a chance to team three top 15 players (include two of the top five) ,you do it and live with the consequences of filling out the rest of the roster.
 
Any time you get a chance to team three top 15 players (include two of the top five) ,you do it and live with the consequences of filling out the rest of the roster.
Each of them took (minimal) pay cuts as well to make it work. No brainer.
 
The more tempered expectation from the astute basketball minds in this thread aside, what I remember from the time that Heat team first came together is that the majority of people were expecting them to go on a dynastic run like the Bulls. They didn’t. To me, that means they disappointed relative to expectations at the time. They did not fail; just did not succeed at the level many people expected. Easy to look back now and say those expectations were unrealistic, but as far as I remember, that is what the expeditions were.
 
wow they are actually going to do food deliveries? why not just bring in cooks to stay there for three months and have a dining hall? you really going to trust food coming out from the bubble?
What bubble?
 
Heatles was both a success and disappointment

Disappointment because of Bronzo “not 1 not 2”....

Success because it they won 2/4 finals and made Miami a destination team even tho theyve been pretty average since

It wasn't one before that? It's in Miami :lol:
 
4 straight finals and 2 rings is impressive. Bron should've gotten the job done in 2011 for a 3 peat but that’s about the max they could’ve accomplished. That team was cooked in 2014, then the warriors emerged 2015, and the rest is history. I hope y’all aren’t taking the presser to heart about winning “not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4...”
 
Video of the Heatles saying it's going to be easy and Lebbywinks expressing they are going to win it every year. Along with the prognostication of the media and general public at the time how they were going to dominate.

Reality: they win 2, coupled with 2 embarrassing losses, and it was anything but easy for them to win those 2 as well.

How is that controversial or turned into picking on Lebby? The facts are what they were.

The OG article I posted posed the question whether or not the Heatles underachieved. I never said it was a failure what they actually did achieve, it was just below expectations.
 
NBA Repeat Champions
Minneapolis Lakers: 1952, 1953, 1954

Boston Celtics: 1959, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966

Boston Celtics: 1968, 1969

Los Angeles Lakers: 1987, 1988

Detroit Pistons: 1989, 1990

Chicago Bulls: 1991, 1992, 1993

Houston Rockets: 1994, 1995

Chicago Bulls: 1996, 1997, 1998

Los Angeles Lakers: 2000, 2001, 2002

Los Angeles Lakers: 2009, 2010

Miami Heat: 2012, 2013

Golden State Warriors: 2017, 2018

Somehow becoming 1/12 teams (1/11 at the time) to ever repeat in NBA history is a failure

MJ, Shaq, Lebron, Hakeem, Kobe, KD are the only players to have ever won b2b Finals MVPs
 
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