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Which team is most overrated? (Pick two)

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  • Celtics

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  • Nuggets

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Even if it's just symbolic, I wonder if Puma/Adidas ever feel the need to change their name considering their history and the amount of black players on their payroll

Either way I'll never wear a Dassler shoe, but it'd be worth noting
 
Even if it's just symbolic, I wonder if Puma/Adidas ever feel the need to change their name considering their history and the amount of black players on their payroll

Either way I'll never wear a Dassler shoe, but it'd be worth noting

Why would they change their name?
 
Warriors were down 2-1 before he got inserted into the starting lineup. He scored 20+ in 2 of the next 3 games (matching Steph in those 2 games); Dubs won all 3 AND Iggy played steller defense on Bron. He deserved every bit of that award.

LOL.

He didn't score 22+ in the next three games, he scored 14 in game 5 in which Steph scored 37 while shooting 56% from two and 53% from three.

Steph, in the fourth quarters of the 2015 finals averaged 10.4 points in the fourth while Bron averaged 10.2.

And after his bad game 2, he averaged 28 on 49% while shooting 45% from three averaging over 6 assists.

For all that stellar defense, Bron still averaged a triple double while scoring over 30 ppg.

Andre didn't do anything different than what any great role player would do. Cavs had a slow center out there and the environment was conducive for Andre to take advantage. Why did environment even exist? Like, why were teammates taking wide open shots? Steph.

Andre wasn't creating scoring opportunities, splitting the double teams etc. that was Steph.

Game 5 really solidified Steph's case for FMVP. Just so happened that NIke and Klutch had different motives.

Andre's case wouldn't even exist without Steph.
 
LOL.

He didn't score 22+ in the next three games, he scored 14 in game 5 in which Steph scored 37 while shooting 56% from two and 53% from three.

Steph, in the fourth quarters of the 2015 finals averaged 10.4 points in the fourth while Bron averaged 10.2.

And after his bad game 2, he averaged 28 on 49% while shooting 45% from three averaging over 6 assists.

For all that stellar defense, Bron still averaged a triple double while scoring over 30 ppg.

Andre didn't do anything different than what any great role player would do. Cavs had a slow center out there and the environment was conducive for Andre to take advantage. Why did environment even exist? Like, why were teammates taking wide open shots? Steph.

Andre wasn't creating scoring opportunities, splitting the double teams etc. that was Steph.

Game 5 really solidified Steph's case for FMVP. Just so happened that NIke and Klutch had different motives.

Andre's case wouldn't even exist without Steph.

Reading doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Iggy and Steph scored 22 in G4 of the finals
Iggy and Steph scored 25 in G6 of the finals

Hence matching Steph's scoring output in 2 of the 3 games as initially stated.

As for his "nothing defense'
When Iguodala was in the game, LeBron James shot 38.1 percent from the field, scoring 26 points per 36 minutes with 2.9 turnovers. With Iguodala on the bench, James shot 44 percent, averaging 35 points per 36 minutes with 2.2 turnovers. With Iguodala as the primary defender, opponents shot 37.2 percent overall, and he gave up free throws the same percentage of time (10.8 percent) that he forced a turnover, via Synergy Sports. Those are steller defensive numbers.

All EYE know is that Steph's gravity wasn't nearly as effective for Klay, Dray and co in those first 3 games w/o Iggy in that starting lineup. And then all of a sudden it was in the last 3. There was one catalyst that changed. I'm assuming you can guess what that is.
 
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Even if it's just symbolic, I wonder if Puma/Adidas ever feel the need to change their name considering their history and the amount of black players on their payroll

Either way I'll never wear a Dassler shoe, but it'd be worth noting
i believe a certain NTer whose name rhymes with FUBU loves his adidas
 
Founders of said name were nazi sympathizers

Fair point, but I just don’t see it with Adidas. I’d bet the the company feels there’s just too much equity built up in that name to give it up, despite the bad history.

And if Adidas were to do that, then Porsche and Volkswagen, among others, would get pressure to change too because those companies have pro-Nazi history as well.
 
Lol if we are keeping it 100, it was removing Bogut outta the line up that was major key. But I already know everybody knows that & nobody acknowledges that just so they can knock Curry.

So you agree. Who replaced Bogut in the lineup?

Steph/Dray/Barnes/Klay were starters in G1-G3, Dubs were down. There was ONE major change and you right everybody knows it but only some wanna retroactively give Steph credit.
 
LOL.

He didn't score 22+ in the next three games, he scored 14 in game 5 in which Steph scored 37 while shooting 56% from two and 53% from three.

Steph, in the fourth quarters of the 2015 finals averaged 10.4 points in the fourth while Bron averaged 10.2.

And after his bad game 2, he averaged 28 on 49% while shooting 45% from three averaging over 6 assists.

For all that stellar defense, Bron still averaged a triple double while scoring over 30 ppg.

Andre didn't do anything different than what any great role player would do. Cavs had a slow center out there and the environment was conducive for Andre to take advantage. Why did environment even exist? Like, why were teammates taking wide open shots? Steph.

Andre wasn't creating scoring opportunities, splitting the double teams etc. that was Steph.

Game 5 really solidified Steph's case for FMVP. Just so happened that NIke and Klutch had different motives.

Andre's case wouldn't even exist without Steph.
After game 5 I was 1000% sure Steph had FMVP. Did not seriously see it being given away to Iggy. Not gonna say he aint deserve it but....cmon. I don't think anyone else on the team even scored 100 pts. He also led in assists, took time to grab rebounds and played over 40 mpg to match Bron's minutes because they had no chance without him out there almost constantly. He was the offense. The whole offense. Iggy wasn't creating shots for himself like that.
 
Bron's shooting % wasn't all that when Iggy was off the court too. He was great on d but the Cavs were down 2 all stars so the Dubs were able to focus their gameplan even more so on Bron than they would've from the start.
I'll have to watch those games again though, I haven't seen anything from that series since it happened, but I remember thinking Wardell should've got that FMVP when it happened.
 
It wasn't just all open shots either, y'all at like we ain't watch the games:

"I think the last couple games, he played well, he played great," James said of Iguodala. "Especially offensively, he made us defend him, he knocked down open shots.

"It’s not one-on-one. But I think his ability to play multiple positions for their team along with some of those other guys allowed their team to be so dynamic. You know, he made us pay. He made us pay tonight with big shots, timely shots, getting out on the break, getting rebounds, getting assists. He was pretty good for their team."

While Iguodala's defense on James was superb, his jumper should be a bigger part of the story. Iguodala has always defended his inconsistent shot, and it has certainly abandoned him from time to time. He went to the long pull-up way too much in Philadelphia, and started to learn the value of 3s and at-rim efficiency in Denver. He took it to another level with the Warriors, but when the Cavaliers started running him off the 3-point line, Iguodala stepped up and made huge shots in Game 6 and the entire series.

He was the catalyst that changed that series, don't see how is debatable.
 
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