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I would not buy it if you haven’t tried it on. It’s huge. Somewhere around 51mm lug to lug.
The Timepiece Thread vol: READ THE 1st POST!!!
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hows the condition described on the exp2?
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So you’d definitely rather go with the 16570 with the polar dial instead? I’m 6’0 175 so I’m not a fan of huge watches like that.
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That’s not the watch for you then. It would look good and ‘masculine’ to 99% of people; however fit is EVERYTHING. Go to your AD or any local watch emporium (or the next town over) and try these things on.
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I second going to an AD, not only to try it on but if you go around Mothers Day they may have special financing offers going on just FYI, I remember mine did interest free for 2 years on them about 3 years ago.
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What would you guys say is a good price for the Datejust 41 126333 with the champagne dial in mint or near mint condition?
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114060 can be the centre piece of any collection. The explorer has its advantages that being said to have two no date, steel, black dial rolexes would have me asking the same question. It's up to you at the end of the day but personally I would maybe flip and look for a solid white dial piece like a explorer 2, op 36/39 or a silver dial 116622 modern bracelet yachtmaster which are becoming more rare.
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Hi NTer's,
My Rolex Explorer 14270 from 1997 just suddenly stopped working. Even when I wind it, not even the second hand moves. I brought it to an AD and they said that due to its age, it should go for a complete revision. This would cost anywhere between 600 to maybe even 1,000 Euros. Do you think I should have this done?
TIA,
F Sharp005
My Rolex Explorer 14270 from 1997 just suddenly stopped working. Even when I wind it, not even the second hand moves. I brought it to an AD and they said that due to its age, it should go for a complete revision. This would cost anywhere between 600 to maybe even 1,000 Euros. Do you think I should have this done?
TIA,
F Sharp005
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Simply put, yes, absolutely have an overhaul done. By Rolex or any trusted Rolex servicing watchmaker. There are videos out there on YouTube as to what to request and how to word what you need done as far as keeping everything original (dials, indexes) and/or unpolished
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I had something similar happen to my 114060 after four years and it recently came back from service late March. The price sounds right as I had problems with winding and losing time and it ended up costing me £660!
I would suggest either taking it to the AD/Rolex themselves and allowing them to fix the problem as I'm sure it should have had a service anyway by now anyway (20+ years without service is pretty good even by Rolex standards). This way you have the peace of mind that genuine parts are being used, a qualified Rolex technician is looking at your watch and all parts used will be Rolex parts preserving the value of the watch if you have to sell at a later date. Obviously this will potentially cost a lot more than a good independent watchmaker. Also whilst doing the work Rolex will replace any worn parts such as hands, dials or crystals so if you wish to keep the watch "whole" this might be something to consider.
Now if you didn't want to incur Rolex service costs you could go to an independent watch maker who could be cheaper. The good thing about using an independent is that you can specify the work that you wish to have done instead of Rolex who will service the entire watch which will drive up the cost. Possible things to consider when using a independent watch maker are their qualifications and quality of work. The parts available to the watch maker as Rolex no longer provides parts to independents so it may be harder to obtain genuine parts for your watch. Also there is no guarantee that the price of repair is going to be cheaper than the service centre.
The choice is yours at the end of the day but unless you want a very expensive paperweight, repair is the best way to go.
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Thank you Leebro and EdM. I'll bring it to the AD - it must be sent to the service centre. I'll be explicit about what they should not do, i.e. polishing. The current service turnaround time is 5 months.
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No problem bro.
I sent mine in just before Christmas and got mine back late March but I did send it back once because they misaligned the bezel although they told me they hadn't touched it. I would suggest for your own security take some pictures of the watch before you send it off so if any mistakes are made you can refer them to the images prior to service so that they can rectify any issues without any kind of drama.
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so jealous... ****
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This is my 3rd 114060 sub in the last year as I have a good AD relationship. Funny part is someone offered me a 20% premium so it’s gone lol - shocked it happened so fast
I love the 14060 2 liner over the maxi case. The 214270 is my daily because of what I do for work (try to be under the radar)
I should be picking my aquanaut up later this summer from my AD and then I’m done.
In the last year I have bought and flipped three subs and a blnr (crazy premium) as well as sold my allocation for a blro to a buddy. Easiest 5k I’ve ever made...lol
Since I don’t like the Daytona’s I’m not missing much. After 2019 it’ll be an explorer and aquanaut 2 piece collection.
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People still paying crazy prices for SS models insane
Hopefully this **** stops and AD have tons of stock of everything the time I end up buying (don’t know when I will either way
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Hopefully this **** stops and AD have tons of stock of everything the time I end up buying (don’t know when I will either way
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Everyone is expecting a bubble to pop. It’s not.
Not in the literal sense.
I’ve been in this hobby for about 10 years. I’m one of the members on TRF and it’s crazy over there. The guys have no idea what is going on. I keep telling folks. The rich don’t rattle if the market drops 30%. The middle class do. If the market drops and the bitcoin millionaires vanish it’s not going to dent what Rolex has done. This is a two party game. Rolex and Patek have gone the Hermès business model route. No one wants to believe it lol
In 2014 the market was pretty strong but off the highs and my wife still had to jump through hoops to get her first Birkin. These are Veblen goods so walking in and seeing a sub on display might happen in the next 24 months but the Daytona’s and SkyD’s are still going to remain “in the back”
Rolex is a trust. They don’t have shareholders and they have enough of a real estate portfolio they can lose money for 20 years some say. Rolex wants to solidify what they spent the last ten years building and that’s lust and scarcity. The greys aren’t going away and the difficulty of finding a sports isn’t either. If I’m wrong I’ll gladly admit it but Hermès has been doing this for 20 years and they weathered the financial crisis just fine.
Rolex wants to brand Tudor as the everyday mans watch and Rolex as the pinnacle of success.
A Casio tells time too. So does an Apple Watch. A Rolex or Patek doesn’t tell time. It tells everyone who sees it, “I’ve made it” that’s why we are paying 10k+ for a steel watch. At least in 2019.
Got a bonus. Boom Rolex
Closed the deal. Rolex to commemorate the day
So on and so on...
My dad and grandad paid a lot less for a lot more back in the day.
Not in the literal sense.
I’ve been in this hobby for about 10 years. I’m one of the members on TRF and it’s crazy over there. The guys have no idea what is going on. I keep telling folks. The rich don’t rattle if the market drops 30%. The middle class do. If the market drops and the bitcoin millionaires vanish it’s not going to dent what Rolex has done. This is a two party game. Rolex and Patek have gone the Hermès business model route. No one wants to believe it lol
In 2014 the market was pretty strong but off the highs and my wife still had to jump through hoops to get her first Birkin. These are Veblen goods so walking in and seeing a sub on display might happen in the next 24 months but the Daytona’s and SkyD’s are still going to remain “in the back”
Rolex is a trust. They don’t have shareholders and they have enough of a real estate portfolio they can lose money for 20 years some say. Rolex wants to solidify what they spent the last ten years building and that’s lust and scarcity. The greys aren’t going away and the difficulty of finding a sports isn’t either. If I’m wrong I’ll gladly admit it but Hermès has been doing this for 20 years and they weathered the financial crisis just fine.
Rolex wants to brand Tudor as the everyday mans watch and Rolex as the pinnacle of success.
A Casio tells time too. So does an Apple Watch. A Rolex or Patek doesn’t tell time. It tells everyone who sees it, “I’ve made it” that’s why we are paying 10k+ for a steel watch. At least in 2019.
Got a bonus. Boom Rolex
Closed the deal. Rolex to commemorate the day
So on and so on...
My dad and grandad paid a lot less for a lot more back in the day.
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Thanks. The only pic I have is one several pages back in this thread. I'll use those if the revision is amiss. I was quoted 750 Euros for the work and it should be done in 12 weeks. I actually spoke with the watch maker and he was cool.
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Sounds like some guys have all the luck. Can't say I'm not jelly. My AD gives me **** all these days, which is disappointing, considering how much I've spent with them recently (the last conversation with management went something like, "get that Lange from us, but it's very unlikely we can sell you a Patek" ). Why bother buying from them, then? Very frustrating. 
A lot of guys I've talked to have grown tired of the shenanigans and are starting to lose interest. Feeling the same for a while now. On the bright side, with the market as it is, it's fortunate I can cash out and not lose money despite buying used at a stupid premium and wearing it for a while. Time to move on.
Anyway, just heard back from Rolex Service Centre about my 16570. As suspected, the crystal was aftermarket, but everything else checks out. Needs a service -they're charging $650 for an overhaul over here. Not gonna let them touch that tritium dial and hands. Taking it elsewhere for maintenance after that dial replacement. Or just flip it afterwards.
Can't believe I have to fly overseas for pieces now. With that being said, flying off to Switzerland this weekend to visit some manufactures and museums I got invited to. Should be fun.
My AD gives me **** all these days, which is disappointing, considering how much I've spent with them recently (the last conversation with management went something like, "get that Lange from us, but it's very unlikely we can sell you a Patek" ). Why bother buying from them, then? Very frustrating. A lot of guys I've talked to have grown tired of the shenanigans and are starting to lose interest. Feeling the same for a while now. On the bright side, with the market as it is, it's fortunate I can cash out and not lose money despite buying used at a stupid premium and wearing it for a while. Time to move on.Anyway, just heard back from Rolex Service Centre about my 16570. As suspected, the crystal was aftermarket, but everything else checks out. Needs a service -they're charging $650 for an overhaul over here. Not gonna let them touch that tritium dial and hands. Taking it elsewhere for maintenance after that dial replacement. Or just flip it afterwards.
Can't believe I have to fly overseas for pieces now. With that being said, flying off to Switzerland this weekend to visit some manufactures and museums I got invited to. Should be fun.
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I'm sure the guys who bought Bitcoin at $20,000 were thinking the same thing.
What goes up must come down. Especially when we're talking about hockey stick charts of growth.
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Bitcoin is not a Veblen good. Bitcoin has zero intrinsic value. Period.
Bitcoin has a place but that’s apples to oranges. Bitcoin will become a hedge against gold and not for what it was intended to be used for.
A watch. Like a piece of art or any other tangible good is valued at what someone is willing to pay. My earlier post was referring to the fact that the current market can sustain the price points. Rolex could raise prices 15% and you still wouldn’t find a sub sitting in the display case.
Rolex. Like Hermès. Wants you to “seek” the watch. To aspire to it. To be “offered” it like Hermès offers a birkin bag after a customer purchases tons.
All it takes is five minutes on the other forum to see how the market is moving.
China has in the last ten years minted more middle class folks who want a Rolex than ever before. Rolex can become like Panerai, over produce to meet demand and look what happened to them.
A 5711 is going for over double msrp if you are even lucky to find one.
Again. Average joe trying to find a sub or sea dweller is not playing the same game someone paying 24k for a Daytona is.
For some. It’ll take relationship building. For some it’ll be a grey seller. And for some you just have an in. It is what it is.
Why has Tudor become so prominent in the last couple years with the knockout gmt release last year for example. Tudor drops a gmt and Rolex introduces the new blro which is now going for double whereas I can snag a Tudor gmt for 3.2k at my ad. Rolex knows better how to market to the masses than almost any other company
Bitcoin has a place but that’s apples to oranges. Bitcoin will become a hedge against gold and not for what it was intended to be used for.
A watch. Like a piece of art or any other tangible good is valued at what someone is willing to pay. My earlier post was referring to the fact that the current market can sustain the price points. Rolex could raise prices 15% and you still wouldn’t find a sub sitting in the display case.
Rolex. Like Hermès. Wants you to “seek” the watch. To aspire to it. To be “offered” it like Hermès offers a birkin bag after a customer purchases tons.
All it takes is five minutes on the other forum to see how the market is moving.
China has in the last ten years minted more middle class folks who want a Rolex than ever before. Rolex can become like Panerai, over produce to meet demand and look what happened to them.
A 5711 is going for over double msrp if you are even lucky to find one.
Again. Average joe trying to find a sub or sea dweller is not playing the same game someone paying 24k for a Daytona is.
For some. It’ll take relationship building. For some it’ll be a grey seller. And for some you just have an in. It is what it is.
Why has Tudor become so prominent in the last couple years with the knockout gmt release last year for example. Tudor drops a gmt and Rolex introduces the new blro which is now going for double whereas I can snag a Tudor gmt for 3.2k at my ad. Rolex knows better how to market to the masses than almost any other company
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This may be posted somewhere in this thread but does anyone have any watch recommendation for someone with a nickel allergy? Most watches I try lead to a rash / irritation 
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i read it in passing maybe a few years ago in another forum but i think titanium is the only option as it has some layer of coating or something that can prevent irritation
nickel-free watches are pretty rare especially for higher end brands iirc
nickel-free watches are pretty rare especially for higher end brands iirc
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