The Official NBA Season Thread: Woj Retires

The D'Antoni system was "give the ball to Steve 98% of the time and run a million pick and rolls"

It was a smart idea, but people act like he was performing some dark secret magic.

Stockton and Malone didn’t run pick and rolls..? But him and Steve aren’t the same?
 
What about on the defensive end? How similar are they there?

In terms of physicality, how do they compare?

Stockton gave more effort. He was food as well sometimes but dude is the all-time steals leader.

Steve Nash is #246 all time in steals…….

3200 vs 900 :lol: :lol:
 
What would your Top 10 PGs list look like finessence finessence ?

Magic
Steph
Oscar
Zeke
CP3
Kidd
GP
Stockton
Clyde Frazier
Tiny Archibadld

Nash ain’t in my top 10
But he a top 20 pg

Lump him in with Cousy, Kevin Johnson, Rod Strickland, Tim Hardaway and Westbrook

Lillard more of a SG/tweener IMO. Don’t know where to put buddy
 
I can’t speak on Tiny or Clyde but not having Nash at least on the back half of that list when he has as much MVPS combined as the whole list is crazy
 
I can’t speak on Tiny or Clyde but not having Nash at least on the back half of that list when he has as much MVPS combined as the whole list is crazy

Those Kobe MVPs.

Him having MVPs automatically makes him a top 10 PG? :lol: :lol: :rofl:

He not better than GP or Kidd… he’s equal to Stockton.

Tiny Archibald averaged 24-8 in his prime

Walt and Tiny both have rings over Nash’s MVPs…

Walt averaged 18-6 with 2 chips. Where is Nash better?
 
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lol im not the biggest Kobe fan so you can miss me with the those were Kobes MVPs but we are all entitled to our opinion. What's funny is one of my earliest playoff memories is Kobe completely shutting down in that game 7 vs the Suns. Just quit. It doesn't get talked about a lot no more, but I remember that game and series pretty vividly for my age.
 
I can see that. During the playoffs it seems like Boston hit every kick out 3. Its crazy how LA Fitness ball is literally the main style of NBA hoops now. One primary ball handler that's your best player (if you got one) and everybody else waits to hoist up a three pointer....and it works! The triangle aint never coming back. Cant beat the math
 
NASH and STOCK were both PASS first PG's thats about it.

STOCK was an initiator and facilitator, was pesky and gritty on defense.

NASH was so much more than a initator and facilitator....Nash could go get his own bucket at any time and was more of a threat from 3, reliable in the CLUTCH and could take games over.

STOCK didn't have that capacity, nor did he seek it.

don't really see the comparison here.

But to each his own.
 
From what I have read/seen, Stockton was physical and strong af. Nash played basketball like a soccer player. Finesse, a lot of speed and passing. And a deadly shooter.
 
…. Says the guy who didn’t even acknowledge Zeke or a guy like Tiny Archibald as some of the top offensive PGs

Because Zeke's offensive impact pales in comparison to Oscar, Magic, Nash, and Curry.

Pistons were built on defense and depth, they were a very good offensive team. But not top of the league good like Oscar, Magic, Nash and Curry in their primes.
 
Because Zeke's offensive impact pales in comparison to Oscar, Magic, Nash, and Curry.

Pistons were built on defense and depth, they were a very good offensive team. But not top of the league good like Oscar, Magic, Nash and Curry in their primes.

Nash literally averaged 14ppg. Please use context when discussing this guy
 
NASH and STOCK were both PASS first PG's thats about it.

STOCK was an initiator and facilitator, was pesky and gritty on defense.

NASH was so much more than a initator and facilitator....Nash could go get his own bucket at any time and was more of a threat from 3, reliable in the CLUTCH and could take games over.

STOCK didn't have that capacity, nor did he seek it.

don't really see the comparison here.

But to each his own.

“Take over games”? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dude average 14ppg. Stockton averaged 13.

Please stop talking like Nash was an individual offensive juggernaut.

Nash is closer to J-Kidd, Stockton not Steph and Magic.

Without talent around him, Nash is average.

Steph and Magic could score.

Nash wasn’t a scorer in the least bit.

Stop talking about TEAM offense for a moment.

Individually, Nash wasn’t like that offensively
 
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