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Who guards Kyrie?
The Official NBA Finals Thread: Game 7 - Cleveland Cavaliers are your 2016 NBA Champions
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I agree with you 100%.
I would give him multiple looks.
I would start off with Klay on him.
Put Steph on JR
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JR should cook Curry
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yes i always blamed kobe for that finals loss vs detroit. dude had a bad matchup was getting locked up by tayshaun and refused to pass the ball. took the challenge and failed. shaq ate and we wouldve had a chance if dude wasnt chucking so hard in that series.
just like vs the heat in 2011. if lebron actually showed up they wouldve won that series. it ridiculous to say you cant blame star players for they teams losses sometimes.
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I mean he should but the more JR shoots, the fewer shots your Big 3 takes.
Which is what you want as GSW
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All three of those players did not play well enough for their team to win the series
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Kyrie has a nice post game too
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Not his strength.
The more shots he is taking in the post, the more shots he is taking outside of his true element.
Again, win for GSW
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I love jr. But he's so inconsistent. Hopefully he does work against curry. I have my doubts tho. Unfortunately I'll say dubs in 6
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Kobe didn't play well in that series. I agree with that point. New Jack City.
But, are we going to acknowledge that nobody else did anything other than him and Big Shaq?
That shouldnt' be considered when placing the blame on One Kobe Bryant?
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when we won him and shaq got the credit. when he losts he has to take the blame especially when he didnt show up. kind of what leaders have to do. they get the credit when things go well, when thing go bad they have to take the blame. thats how i see things.
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Keyword being should
edit: in JR's case
edit: in JR's case
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Or the TEAMS that all of those players played against were simply better TEAMS?
I respect your consistency though
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Yea but when your squad wins, SHaq and Kobe shouldn't be the only ones that get the credit because others have to contribute for the success of the team.
I am saying the same thing win or loss
Leaders should carry the load offensively. That is why they get paid the big bucks.
But others HAVE TO perform for the team to succeed
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Again, I said this earlier.
I picture the team in the film room rewatching game clips. Breaking down each play.
Looking at who missed rotations.
Looking at who makes the extra pass.
Looking at who hustles back on D during transition.
Coach Jackson is telling DeVean George, good job of making it back on D to contest Rip's mid-range jumper.
Luke, good job for making that extra pass for that open GP jumper.
ALL of those things are needed for the victory.
Those things ALONG WITH Shaq and Kobe doing their thing = Road to success.
So again, when I say it is a team that wins or loses, ALL of those things are important and just having your superstars show up is never enough. You have to look under the hood
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of course role players have to show up. thats obvious. no one wins it alone but role players will never get the credit like superstars/main pieces on a championship team. . it is what it is.
. so what happens when role players show up but a star player doesnt? you trying to say he should remain blameless? you got to look at everything and figure out why you lost. sometimes stars should be called out and blamed for not winning
lebron 2011
kobe 2004
other times, the other team is just far superior. simple as that. a.i vs the lakers as you pointed out. no one expected him to win.
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So do we ackowledge that GSW is superior to the Cavs?
If yes, are we going to give LeBron the AI treatment and "excuse" him?
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I am not asking role players to get the credit. I am asking for the TEAM to get the credit. I know they are not going to get the credit like the stars, because they aren't the ones scoring the most points. Scoring is what gets the highlights, but I just feel this mindset/approach to single player praise/blame is not cool.
But like you said, that is how it is and it will never change.
If role players come to play and superstars don't, there are still going to be other reasons as to why the team loss.
I am just against singling out ONE/TWO players as to why a team won/loss because there are TOO MANY variables in a basketball game.
I just think it is easier for the media to do the blame/credit game. It is simple for the casual man to follow but it is always deeper than that
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Lastly, if a role player goes off, it is usually because the Star player has garnered so much attention that the role player is able to get open looks. So technically, we can credit the attention that a star player commands that opens up a role player to be successful.
So whether or not a star player is getting buckets on a particular night, their presence on the court has allowed other, less talented offensive players, to shine.
So should we really blame the stars there?
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if the warriors bring their A game i say they will sweep the cavs
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What I am saying is that everyone needs to do their job if the team wants to be successful.
If the top scorer doesn't score as much as he should, he isn't MORE responsible for a loss than if Player #6 doesn't rebound the ball as well as he normally does AND/OR Player 8 not successfully giving Player #1 a breather during a 4-minute stretch in the 2nd.
Everyone has a role and those roles need to be filled.
The blame game just shouldn't happen.
As I said, it is just an easier, to the point way the media is able to explain why a team loss to the casual fan.
No coach is going down the line blaming individual players for a loss during a film session.
Especially not the player that is your best player.
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You could very well do the same thing.
The star players SHOULD make the job easier for the role players.
Which is why I don't understand why anyone brought up Young Kobe being in a better position than current LeBron to dethrone the Warriors
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Lovin all the hypothetical bs 
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