Originally Posted by AirJordan17
BTW these joints come out December 8. This will be my first AF 1 purchase since August.
Originally Posted by Chico Cummings
Yeah they completely ruined the Bobbito's IMO..I'm feelin those ones u got from '01 10x's more!
My next pickup is the playoff's as well. I pair for me and 2 pairs for my sons.
I really haven't been feeling ANY lowtop AF1's this whole year to be honest. I'm more of a simple color scheme man. Hopefully we have some jewels coming out next year...
Originally Posted by AirJordan17
^ Those 95 that you speak of are nice indeed. Take some pics when you get a chance.
In my opinion, the Air Force line tried to do what JB has been doing with retros for YEARS, and it backfired with regards to saturation. Don't get me wrong, the demand for Forces will always be there, but JB is a whole nother monster. That's where Nike made their mistake. Think about the last time you've seen Nike spend any maketing dollars on the AF 1 line. I have NEVER seen them do it, and I am not counting the past 2 years. This is a classic example of having a good thing and ruining it.Sad but true.And honestly in the bigger scheme of things, sneaker heads are a small demographic compared to the bigger picture, which would be your average consumer. You have average dudes out there that will buy every GR AF 1 they can get their hands on because they like what they see, and they think the shoes are cool, and they are getting them for 80 bucks.They don't give a crap about shape, texture, etc. And Nike knows this. That's really what it boils down too; and really Nike could give a damn about us sneakerheads at the end of the day. That's really how Nike and these other sneaker companies are making their bottome line, off what they conceive to be the average consumer. Every "Supreme" or "Premium" AF1 that has released this year, you can get on the Bay for waay under retail if you wait a couple of months after release. That tells me right there Nike went all in with this XXV anniversary campaign, and the end result, it didn't do as well as they thought.
And now you are starting to see JB "get away" from doing retros after 08 because they see the bigger picture. Guys team Jordans sell damn well, no matter how crappy or unispired we may think they look. And Gentry knows damn well he can get away with it. You think that Jordan/ AF 1 "Fusion" collab starting in 08 was coincidence? I honestly don't think so.
When the smoke clears, I encourage all of you to BUY WHAT YOU LIKE... be it vintage, new stuff, or whatever your taste may be. Don't let the politics of this game deter you from what YOU are personally trying to accomplish in this game. Heck.. if that's the case I would never buy anything. Take a stance like Ty is doing and don't buy any and everything you see IF THAT'S HOW YOU FEEL. But in all reality, there are waaay less people that think the way Ty does, and that's why things will never be the same. I wish some of you guys could have experienced the sneaker culture back in the mid to late 90's. The way I see the shoe game going in the next few years.... more retros.... less inspired new models.... and horrible quality, unless something drastic happens.
It's all about the Benjamin's baby....
Originally Posted by spacej23
Originally Posted by AirJordan17
^ Those 95 that you speak of are nice indeed. Take some pics when you get a chance.
In my opinion, the Air Force line tried to do what JB has been doing with retros for YEARS, and it backfired with regards to saturation. Don't get me wrong, the demand for Forces will always be there, but JB is a whole nother monster. That's where Nike made their mistake. Think about the last time you've seen Nike spend any maketing dollars on the AF 1 line. I have NEVER seen them do it, and I am not counting the past 2 years. This is a classic example of having a good thing and ruining it.Sad but true.And honestly in the bigger scheme of things, sneaker heads are a small demographic compared to the bigger picture, which would be your average consumer. You have average dudes out there that will buy every GR AF 1 they can get their hands on because they like what they see, and they think the shoes are cool, and they are getting them for 80 bucks.They don't give a crap about shape, texture, etc. And Nike knows this. That's really what it boils down too; and really Nike could give a damn about us sneakerheads at the end of the day. That's really how Nike and these other sneaker companies are making their bottome line, off what they conceive to be the average consumer. Every "Supreme" or "Premium" AF1 that has released this year, you can get on the Bay for waay under retail if you wait a couple of months after release. That tells me right there Nike went all in with this XXV anniversary campaign, and the end result, it didn't do as well as they thought.
And now you are starting to see JB "get away" from doing retros after 08 because they see the bigger picture. Guys team Jordans sell damn well, no matter how crappy or unispired we may think they look. And Gentry knows damn well he can get away with it. You think that Jordan/ AF 1 "Fusion" collab starting in 08 was coincidence? I honestly don't think so.
When the smoke clears, I encourage all of you to BUY WHAT YOU LIKE... be it vintage, new stuff, or whatever your taste may be. Don't let the politics of this game deter you from what YOU are personally trying to accomplish in this game. Heck.. if that's the case I would never buy anything. Take a stance like Ty is doing and don't buy any and everything you see IF THAT'S HOW YOU FEEL. But in all reality, there are waaay less people that think the way Ty does, and that's why things will never be the same. I wish some of you guys could have experienced the sneaker culture back in the mid to late 90's. The way I see the shoe game going in the next few years.... more retros.... less inspired new models.... and horrible quality, unless something drastic happens.
It's all about the Benjamin's baby....
Well put Ron.
There's never been a huge marketing scheme that I cab think of as far as the AF1 goes and that's because AF1's have sold themselves for the longest time. Sure, Nike did a great job by helping us remember classic colorways with that classic shape and classic quality, but they definitely didn't reward us with any of that this year. Sure, they put out those white/insert color for swoosh AF1's, but even those were gimmicks with the OG 6 engraved by laser on there. Not only that, but the quality was that terrible plasticky leather. I won't even get started on the shape. Don't get me wrong though, there's nothing wrong with smooth leather, but today's smooth leather is way too thin. If you can't get a feel for what I'm talking about, pick up a pair of '01 or before AF1's. Pictures can only do so much, so you really have to have a pair in your hands to truly understand what I'm talking about.
Then, I know that people say to themselves, "Well, I would love to buy older AF1's or other older Nike product, but it's too expensive. So, I'll just buy the newer stuff that's cheaper to make up for it." Well, I can understand the first part by all means, but what I can't understand is people who want to buy the older stuff, but instead buys multiple and multiple pairs of stuff from today. Think about it like this, there's a pair of AF1's you'd like to have, but they cost $250. Well, you literally have to just pass on about 3-4 pairs of the GR AF1's you were going to buy and now you have the money to buy that older AF1. In my mind, it seems better to go with that one pair of older, better quality AF1's, rather than buying 3 or 4 pairs of the poor quality AF1's from today. A lot of you guys say very nice things about my collection(which I appreciate more than you can think) and how you'd kill to have some of my joints, but the thing is, you could have it. There's plenty of you that buy shoes on a regular basis and if you would pass on a couple pairs, than you could easily have the money for that one pair you've been salivating over.
Now, if you really like something and you really want it, then by all means buy it. My objective isn't to tell you what to like and dislike, rather to give you a different perspective/strategy to the people who salivate for the older product. I also offer any help to anyone who's serious about finding/buying something from back in the day.
If you're content with what you're doing though, keep doing it and good luck. On the other hand, if you don't like what has been releasing nowadays, then take a stand and don't settle. Money goes a lot easier than it comes and you decide what you buy, not anyone else. It's not your obligation to buy whatever Nike puts out. It's Nike's obligation to put something out which you are highly satisfied for. I honestly believe Nike thinks they have us by our balls and that they can release anything and we'll gobble it up. Well, they might be right about a majority of people, but nobody has me by mine.
Originally Posted by AirJordan17
Man its just seems like there is just no good news anyomre. Pimp C dead, Sean Taylor dead, and Kayne West mom dead in a matter of three weeks?
The grin reaper is busy please believe. I hope he skips my address. I gotta a lot of life to live.
Exactly! That's the biggest reason why I won't be buying that iPod Touch.16GB isn't that great for the amount of money they're asking for. Plus, how reliable is the wireless internet? Don't you have to be somewhere inlike a hotspot or something? Plus, I have a BlackBerry, so I already have internet on the go.Originally Posted by AirJordan17
Stan- The only beef I have with Itouch right now is storage space. Web browsing and all other features on it are really cool though. And being able to watch You Tube vidoes on the go is really cool too. The one I currently have (which my job paid for) is 16 GB. Long term.. 16 GB is nothing.. considering how much music and videos that you are going to buy over the years.
