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They made good points tho..
The Hate is Disgusting vol. fox news
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I have had some critical words for the discipline of Sociology but sociologists do make some very good observations and one is the "in group and out group" phenomenon. If you are black and you did something bad, as long as someone on Fox News criticizes you or any white establishment figure for that matter, you are considered just fine in the eyes of most black people, if not a folk hero. Something like OJ Simpsons's Murders, Michael Jackson's multiple acts of child molestation (molestation is usually euphemism for rape), Chris Brown's vicious battery of a young women and Michael Vick's systemic torture of innocent sentient beings are all excused and even celebrated.
I have seen Simpson's murders being largely written off as the result of him being framed, Michael Jackson's serial rapes are considered merely the result of the connivance of greedy parents (The parents were horrible and greedy because they knew their child was likely to be raped and they would be able to reap the financial bounty of a civil suit and/or a settlement out of court). In the case of Chris Brown, the consensus among his racial and age cohort (male and female) is that Rihanna had provoked her own savage beating and/or that "Fox News" has trying to deny him the ability to make music.
Michael Vick was seen as not doing anything wrong in the first place and that compassion for sentient mammals is some bizarre trait reserved for white people only. There are also the 1992 LA riots where destruction of black owned property and the ransacking of Korean owned shops (or attemoted ransacking, high power rifle and rooftop were better than any Statefarm insurance policy or the LAPD), were considered by everyone from the rioter in the street to Congresswomen Maxine Waters as a "rebellion" and an "uprising." Apparently, the appropriate thing to do to respond to centuries of injustice at the hands of whites and present day high unemployment is to burn property in the neighborhood that was owned by non whites. Ironically the only Black celebrity in recent memory to not be defended vigorously in the court of black public opinion was Kobe Bryant, whose accuser's credibility was extremely flimsy.
These words and actions make black people look bad and while they do not have a monopoly on defending someone's blatantly bad behavior due to possessing the same heritage and/or hue, they have been, in recent history, the worst in terms of doing so. Whites almost never cheer a not guilty verdict for someone who likely killed someone very close to them. The reaction to the Casey Anthony spectacle/trial was white people who were protesting a not guilty verdict and the fact that she likely will go unpunished for her very likely role in extinguishing the life of another human being. White people did not rush to the rescue of the accused and very pale skinned rapist Dominique Strauss-Khan, when he is supposed to have tried to rape and sodomize the black chamber maid in his palatial NYC Sofitel Suite. We reveled in the Old World Aristicrat's perp walk and the same was true for fellow white man Bernie Maddoff and many white people want to see a few dozen more high profile whites behind bars, expecially Tim Geithner, Ben Bernanke and Lloyd Blankfein.
The same patterns persist when no one is charge with a violent crime or any crime at all. White People, especially white people from New York that shared his political views, reveled in Anthony Weiner's tragicomedic political demise. White actor Charlie Sheen's drug fueled spectacle was a figure of fun while LeBron Jame's bombastic arrogance and hubris and self aggrandizing statements somehow made him into black civil rights hero in the eyes of some. I suppose that self criticism and the ability and willingness of the majority of white people to condemn a white person who brutalized a black person will not be considered as any sort of evidence of evolving white attitudes about race but will be reckoned as another item of "white privilege" to be placed in the "invisible knapsack."
Most whites initially thought that the Duke University LaCrosse players, accused of rape, were bunch of rich and pampered thugs, who indeed raped and beat a working class black women, and only after the facts of the conflicting accounts and the women's duplicity did white people change their minds, reluctantly and still developed no sympathy or sense of solidarity with those privileged sons of millionaires. Black people send a message to non blacks that, in the eyes of black folks, it is okay for a black man to butcher his ex wife, rape child, brutalize women, raze homes and businesses of innocent people and torture canines for sport, so long as his actions manage to draw the ire of someone, anyone on Fox News or even any white establishment figure (It also helps to contend for an NFL MVP, to have set NFL rushing records, to have made a nice chunk of change selling songs on iTunes or other things not related to your disregard for the lives of others).
The practice of defending someone else's bad behavior solely on account of what he or she looks like and what his or her critics look like is tribal and it is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself if, solely based on the malefactor's hue, you opt to defend and rally behind a widely and justly criticized person who did what would otherwise be universally judged as loathsome if not gruesome or both. I and most other white people know that black people do not actually support rape, murder, torture, banditry, racially motivated mob violence and physical abuse and that in most of these cases blacks feel besieged and they feel as if the white establishment is trying to bring a wealthy, successful and even beloved black man low (or in the case of the riots a once working class but very clean, safe and proud neighborhoods were brought low, perhaps by a drug introduced by the white political establishment.) and the rhetorical defenses of Brown, Simpson, Jackson et al. are part of a repudiation of that same tactic of racial solidarity being used, in the past, by whites to deny justice to black victims or at least I hope that is the case. That has to be the case because virtually any black person would not want to see any of his or her own loved ones being slabbed, tortured, raped, or brutally beaten, no matter how many MVP votes garnered or albums sold by the man doing the harm.
I have seen Simpson's murders being largely written off as the result of him being framed, Michael Jackson's serial rapes are considered merely the result of the connivance of greedy parents (The parents were horrible and greedy because they knew their child was likely to be raped and they would be able to reap the financial bounty of a civil suit and/or a settlement out of court). In the case of Chris Brown, the consensus among his racial and age cohort (male and female) is that Rihanna had provoked her own savage beating and/or that "Fox News" has trying to deny him the ability to make music.
Michael Vick was seen as not doing anything wrong in the first place and that compassion for sentient mammals is some bizarre trait reserved for white people only. There are also the 1992 LA riots where destruction of black owned property and the ransacking of Korean owned shops (or attemoted ransacking, high power rifle and rooftop were better than any Statefarm insurance policy or the LAPD), were considered by everyone from the rioter in the street to Congresswomen Maxine Waters as a "rebellion" and an "uprising." Apparently, the appropriate thing to do to respond to centuries of injustice at the hands of whites and present day high unemployment is to burn property in the neighborhood that was owned by non whites. Ironically the only Black celebrity in recent memory to not be defended vigorously in the court of black public opinion was Kobe Bryant, whose accuser's credibility was extremely flimsy.
These words and actions make black people look bad and while they do not have a monopoly on defending someone's blatantly bad behavior due to possessing the same heritage and/or hue, they have been, in recent history, the worst in terms of doing so. Whites almost never cheer a not guilty verdict for someone who likely killed someone very close to them. The reaction to the Casey Anthony spectacle/trial was white people who were protesting a not guilty verdict and the fact that she likely will go unpunished for her very likely role in extinguishing the life of another human being. White people did not rush to the rescue of the accused and very pale skinned rapist Dominique Strauss-Khan, when he is supposed to have tried to rape and sodomize the black chamber maid in his palatial NYC Sofitel Suite. We reveled in the Old World Aristicrat's perp walk and the same was true for fellow white man Bernie Maddoff and many white people want to see a few dozen more high profile whites behind bars, expecially Tim Geithner, Ben Bernanke and Lloyd Blankfein.
The same patterns persist when no one is charge with a violent crime or any crime at all. White People, especially white people from New York that shared his political views, reveled in Anthony Weiner's tragicomedic political demise. White actor Charlie Sheen's drug fueled spectacle was a figure of fun while LeBron Jame's bombastic arrogance and hubris and self aggrandizing statements somehow made him into black civil rights hero in the eyes of some. I suppose that self criticism and the ability and willingness of the majority of white people to condemn a white person who brutalized a black person will not be considered as any sort of evidence of evolving white attitudes about race but will be reckoned as another item of "white privilege" to be placed in the "invisible knapsack."
Most whites initially thought that the Duke University LaCrosse players, accused of rape, were bunch of rich and pampered thugs, who indeed raped and beat a working class black women, and only after the facts of the conflicting accounts and the women's duplicity did white people change their minds, reluctantly and still developed no sympathy or sense of solidarity with those privileged sons of millionaires. Black people send a message to non blacks that, in the eyes of black folks, it is okay for a black man to butcher his ex wife, rape child, brutalize women, raze homes and businesses of innocent people and torture canines for sport, so long as his actions manage to draw the ire of someone, anyone on Fox News or even any white establishment figure (It also helps to contend for an NFL MVP, to have set NFL rushing records, to have made a nice chunk of change selling songs on iTunes or other things not related to your disregard for the lives of others).
The practice of defending someone else's bad behavior solely on account of what he or she looks like and what his or her critics look like is tribal and it is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself if, solely based on the malefactor's hue, you opt to defend and rally behind a widely and justly criticized person who did what would otherwise be universally judged as loathsome if not gruesome or both. I and most other white people know that black people do not actually support rape, murder, torture, banditry, racially motivated mob violence and physical abuse and that in most of these cases blacks feel besieged and they feel as if the white establishment is trying to bring a wealthy, successful and even beloved black man low (or in the case of the riots a once working class but very clean, safe and proud neighborhoods were brought low, perhaps by a drug introduced by the white political establishment.) and the rhetorical defenses of Brown, Simpson, Jackson et al. are part of a repudiation of that same tactic of racial solidarity being used, in the past, by whites to deny justice to black victims or at least I hope that is the case. That has to be the case because virtually any black person would not want to see any of his or her own loved ones being slabbed, tortured, raped, or brutally beaten, no matter how many MVP votes garnered or albums sold by the man doing the harm.
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I have had some critical words for the discipline of Sociology but sociologists do make some very good observations and one is the "in group and out group" phenomenon. If you are black and you did something bad, as long as someone on Fox News criticizes you or any white establishment figure for that matter, you are considered just fine in the eyes of most black people, if not a folk hero. Something like OJ Simpsons's Murders, Michael Jackson's multiple acts of child molestation (molestation is usually euphemism for rape), Chris Brown's vicious battery of a young women and Michael Vick's systemic torture of innocent sentient beings are all excused and even celebrated.
I have seen Simpson's murders being largely written off as the result of him being framed, Michael Jackson's serial rapes are considered merely the result of the connivance of greedy parents (The parents were horrible and greedy because they knew their child was likely to be raped and they would be able to reap the financial bounty of a civil suit and/or a settlement out of court). In the case of Chris Brown, the consensus among his racial and age cohort (male and female) is that Rihanna had provoked her own savage beating and/or that "Fox News" has trying to deny him the ability to make music.
Michael Vick was seen as not doing anything wrong in the first place and that compassion for sentient mammals is some bizarre trait reserved for white people only. There are also the 1992 LA riots where destruction of black owned property and the ransacking of Korean owned shops (or attemoted ransacking, high power rifle and rooftop were better than any Statefarm insurance policy or the LAPD), were considered by everyone from the rioter in the street to Congresswomen Maxine Waters as a "rebellion" and an "uprising." Apparently, the appropriate thing to do to respond to centuries of injustice at the hands of whites and present day high unemployment is to burn property in the neighborhood that was owned by non whites. Ironically the only Black celebrity in recent memory to not be defended vigorously in the court of black public opinion was Kobe Bryant, whose accuser's credibility was extremely flimsy.
These words and actions make black people look bad and while they do not have a monopoly on defending someone's blatantly bad behavior due to possessing the same heritage and/or hue, they have been, in recent history, the worst in terms of doing so. Whites almost never cheer a not guilty verdict for someone who likely killed someone very close to them. The reaction to the Casey Anthony spectacle/trial was white people who were protesting a not guilty verdict and the fact that she likely will go unpunished for her very likely role in extinguishing the life of another human being. White people did not rush to the rescue of the accused and very pale skinned rapist Dominique Strauss-Khan, when he is supposed to have tried to rape and sodomize the black chamber maid in his palatial NYC Sofitel Suite. We reveled in the Old World Aristicrat's perp walk and the same was true for fellow white man Bernie Maddoff and many white people want to see a few dozen more high profile whites behind bars, expecially Tim Geithner, Ben Bernanke and Lloyd Blankfein.
The same patterns persist when no one is charge with a violent crime or any crime at all. White People, especially white people from New York that shared his political views, reveled in Anthony Weiner's tragicomedic political demise. White actor Charlie Sheen's drug fueled spectacle was a figure of fun while LeBron Jame's bombastic arrogance and hubris and self aggrandizing statements somehow made him into black civil rights hero in the eyes of some. I suppose that self criticism and the ability and willingness of the majority of white people to condemn a white person who brutalized a black person will not be considered as any sort of evidence of evolving white attitudes about race but will be reckoned as another item of "white privilege" to be placed in the "invisible knapsack."
Most whites initially thought that the Duke University LaCrosse players, accused of rape, were bunch of rich and pampered thugs, who indeed raped and beat a working class black women, and only after the facts of the conflicting accounts and the women's duplicity did white people change their minds, reluctantly and still developed no sympathy or sense of solidarity with those privileged sons of millionaires. Black people send a message to non blacks that, in the eyes of black folks, it is okay for a black man to butcher his ex wife, rape child, brutalize women, raze homes and businesses of innocent people and torture canines for sport, so long as his actions manage to draw the ire of someone, anyone on Fox News or even any white establishment figure (It also helps to contend for an NFL MVP, to have set NFL rushing records, to have made a nice chunk of change selling songs on iTunes or other things not related to your disregard for the lives of others).
The practice of defending someone else's bad behavior solely on account of what he or she looks like and what his or her critics look like is tribal and it is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself if, solely based on the malefactor's hue, you opt to defend and rally behind a widely and justly criticized person who did what would otherwise be universally judged as loathsome if not gruesome or both. I and most other white people know that black people do not actually support rape, murder, torture, banditry, racially motivated mob violence and physical abuse and that in most of these cases blacks feel besieged and they feel as if the white establishment is trying to bring a wealthy, successful and even beloved black man low (or in the case of the riots a once working class but very clean, safe and proud neighborhoods were brought low, perhaps by a drug introduced by the white political establishment.) and the rhetorical defenses of Brown, Simpson, Jackson et al. are part of a repudiation of that same tactic of racial solidarity being used, in the past, by whites to deny justice to black victims or at least I hope that is the case. That has to be the case because virtually any black person would not want to see any of his or her own loved ones being slabbed, tortured, raped, or brutally beaten, no matter how many MVP votes garnered or albums sold by the man doing the harm.
I have seen Simpson's murders being largely written off as the result of him being framed, Michael Jackson's serial rapes are considered merely the result of the connivance of greedy parents (The parents were horrible and greedy because they knew their child was likely to be raped and they would be able to reap the financial bounty of a civil suit and/or a settlement out of court). In the case of Chris Brown, the consensus among his racial and age cohort (male and female) is that Rihanna had provoked her own savage beating and/or that "Fox News" has trying to deny him the ability to make music.
Michael Vick was seen as not doing anything wrong in the first place and that compassion for sentient mammals is some bizarre trait reserved for white people only. There are also the 1992 LA riots where destruction of black owned property and the ransacking of Korean owned shops (or attemoted ransacking, high power rifle and rooftop were better than any Statefarm insurance policy or the LAPD), were considered by everyone from the rioter in the street to Congresswomen Maxine Waters as a "rebellion" and an "uprising." Apparently, the appropriate thing to do to respond to centuries of injustice at the hands of whites and present day high unemployment is to burn property in the neighborhood that was owned by non whites. Ironically the only Black celebrity in recent memory to not be defended vigorously in the court of black public opinion was Kobe Bryant, whose accuser's credibility was extremely flimsy.
These words and actions make black people look bad and while they do not have a monopoly on defending someone's blatantly bad behavior due to possessing the same heritage and/or hue, they have been, in recent history, the worst in terms of doing so. Whites almost never cheer a not guilty verdict for someone who likely killed someone very close to them. The reaction to the Casey Anthony spectacle/trial was white people who were protesting a not guilty verdict and the fact that she likely will go unpunished for her very likely role in extinguishing the life of another human being. White people did not rush to the rescue of the accused and very pale skinned rapist Dominique Strauss-Khan, when he is supposed to have tried to rape and sodomize the black chamber maid in his palatial NYC Sofitel Suite. We reveled in the Old World Aristicrat's perp walk and the same was true for fellow white man Bernie Maddoff and many white people want to see a few dozen more high profile whites behind bars, expecially Tim Geithner, Ben Bernanke and Lloyd Blankfein.
The same patterns persist when no one is charge with a violent crime or any crime at all. White People, especially white people from New York that shared his political views, reveled in Anthony Weiner's tragicomedic political demise. White actor Charlie Sheen's drug fueled spectacle was a figure of fun while LeBron Jame's bombastic arrogance and hubris and self aggrandizing statements somehow made him into black civil rights hero in the eyes of some. I suppose that self criticism and the ability and willingness of the majority of white people to condemn a white person who brutalized a black person will not be considered as any sort of evidence of evolving white attitudes about race but will be reckoned as another item of "white privilege" to be placed in the "invisible knapsack."
Most whites initially thought that the Duke University LaCrosse players, accused of rape, were bunch of rich and pampered thugs, who indeed raped and beat a working class black women, and only after the facts of the conflicting accounts and the women's duplicity did white people change their minds, reluctantly and still developed no sympathy or sense of solidarity with those privileged sons of millionaires. Black people send a message to non blacks that, in the eyes of black folks, it is okay for a black man to butcher his ex wife, rape child, brutalize women, raze homes and businesses of innocent people and torture canines for sport, so long as his actions manage to draw the ire of someone, anyone on Fox News or even any white establishment figure (It also helps to contend for an NFL MVP, to have set NFL rushing records, to have made a nice chunk of change selling songs on iTunes or other things not related to your disregard for the lives of others).
The practice of defending someone else's bad behavior solely on account of what he or she looks like and what his or her critics look like is tribal and it is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself if, solely based on the malefactor's hue, you opt to defend and rally behind a widely and justly criticized person who did what would otherwise be universally judged as loathsome if not gruesome or both. I and most other white people know that black people do not actually support rape, murder, torture, banditry, racially motivated mob violence and physical abuse and that in most of these cases blacks feel besieged and they feel as if the white establishment is trying to bring a wealthy, successful and even beloved black man low (or in the case of the riots a once working class but very clean, safe and proud neighborhoods were brought low, perhaps by a drug introduced by the white political establishment.) and the rhetorical defenses of Brown, Simpson, Jackson et al. are part of a repudiation of that same tactic of racial solidarity being used, in the past, by whites to deny justice to black victims or at least I hope that is the case. That has to be the case because virtually any black person would not want to see any of his or her own loved ones being slabbed, tortured, raped, or brutally beaten, no matter how many MVP votes garnered or albums sold by the man doing the harm.
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actually i sorta agree with almost every word she says.
and I really don't care about the rihanna incident. I don't listen to artists because of their personal lives.
I listen for your music.
eta: they weren't only poking at chris brown though. they were using him to make a point.
and I really don't care about the rihanna incident. I don't listen to artists because of their personal lives.
I listen for your music.
eta: they weren't only poking at chris brown though. they were using him to make a point.
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actually i sorta agree with almost every word she says.
and I really don't care about the rihanna incident. I don't listen to artists because of their personal lives.
I listen for your music.
eta: they weren't only poking at chris brown though. they were using him to make a point.
and I really don't care about the rihanna incident. I don't listen to artists because of their personal lives.
I listen for your music.
eta: they weren't only poking at chris brown though. they were using him to make a point.
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Just because it's on FOX doesn't mean it's wrong. Chris Brown not only hit another woman, but another famous woman- and yet society has completely given him a pass.
When conservatives have been saying that this music lessens the status of women, how do you think this looks?
Cultural values are real. These things certainly influence kids.
When conservatives have been saying that this music lessens the status of women, how do you think this looks?
Cultural values are real. These things certainly influence kids.
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Just because it's on FOX doesn't mean it's wrong. Chris Brown not only hit another woman, but another famous woman- and yet society has completely given him a pass.
When conservatives have been saying that this music lessens the status of women, how do you think this looks?
Cultural values are real. These things certainly influence kids.
When conservatives have been saying that this music lessens the status of women, how do you think this looks?
Cultural values are real. These things certainly influence kids.
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Spoiler [+]
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Fox News is a joke but I don't mind the CB hate.
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Fox News is a joke but I don't mind the CB hate.
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Aren't you the same guy who said Michelle Bachman would be a better president than Obama?
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Aren't you the same guy who said Michelle Bachman would be a better president than Obama?
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After scrolling down the 3'rd paragraph i was like $@#! this
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Fox News sucks.
Chris Brown sucks and is a little +###@.
Moving on.
Chris Brown sucks and is a little +###@.
Moving on.
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After scrolling down the 3'rd paragraph i was like $@#! this
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Fox News sucks.
Chris Brown sucks and is a little +###@.
Moving on.
Chris Brown sucks and is a little +###@.
Moving on.
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LULZ
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He served his time. He did his community service. Time to let it go.
And that latest joint with Game is seriously
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And that latest joint with Game is seriously
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He served his time. He did his community service. Time to let it go.
And that latest joint with Game is seriously
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And that latest joint with Game is seriously
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