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the kid is still in his teens. he's definitely no done growing or putting on weight
not league ready, but could be a steal in a few yrs
 
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Do either of the twins get drafted?


logic would say Andrew maybe Aaron no.


Andrew is a big PG, Aaron is average size SG shooter who can't shoot.




BUT


The x factor is Cal.



People underrate how important your college coach for borderline 1st round picks.


Rick Barnes killed Jordan Hamiltons draftstock. The ASU staff killed Jahi Carson draft stock and he went undrafted, Jamie Dixon didn't have good things to say about Khem Birch and he went undrafted.


Cal always sells his guys, he hoodwinked teams into giving Daniel Orton a guaranteed deal. :lol:



they are outside my top 60. but you never know. I suspect Cal will find a way to get one of them in the 1st and make sure aaron is taken in the second,.
The only con of going to Kentucky; **** not being a starter, **** not scoring 25 ppg, **** winning a title. Cal gets his guys in the league. BUT if you're not ready in 2 years, you have to go anyway or be relegated to the bench (and I say bench but I honestly think it's leave cause your scholarship is going to someone else).



Booker is way too small to be someone's small forward.  He's listed at 6'6 but I think that's generous. 


WCS, Poythress didn't have to go after two years. Marcus Lee still here.

Who are you exactly referring too?

Booker didn't leave because he had too, he would've started at the 3 next season if he stayed. He showed enough flashes during the season to be in the 1st round discussion. I hated that we ended up with him over James Blackmon so I follwed Booker really close.
 
This is weird but Cal said Alex Poythress has yet to make a decision and will meet with his family.
 
 

WCS, Poythress didn't have to go after two years. Marcus Lee still here.

Who are you exactly referring too?

Booker didn't leave because he had too, he would've started at the 3 next season if he stayed. He showed enough flashes during the season to be in the 1st round discussion. I hated that we ended up with him over James Blackmon so I follwed Booker really close.
The twins, which is why I quoted the posts I did. I've said quite a few times Drew can come off the bench and Aaron is league material. I'm convinced they had to leave, which is why part of Cal's recruiting pitch is "if you plan on staying all 4 years, don't come here." 
 
 



WCS, Poythress didn't have to go after two years. Marcus Lee still here.


Who are you exactly referring too?


Booker didn't leave because he had too, he would've started at the 3 next season if he stayed. He showed enough flashes during the season to be in the 1st round discussion. I hated that we ended up with him over James Blackmon so I follwed Booker really close.
The twins, which is why I quoted the posts I did. I've said quite a few times Drew can come off the bench and Aaron is league material. I'm convinced they had to leave, which is why part of Cal's recruiting pitch is "if you plan on staying all 4 years, don't come here." 

What would coming back do for the twins at this point? They are who they are. Even if Briscoe and Matthews weren't coming in they would still be have been 2nd round picks next year anyways.

Their stock took a hit when they had to come to college period, they were exposed, if the old rules were still in effect they would've got an NBA GM fired for taking them right out of high school.
 
I want to know what y'all consider to be "ready" for the league. See a lot of guys saying that certain kids aren't ready, but what makes a kid ready in your eyes? Do you have to have an instant impact to be ready? Do you have to be a projected lotto pick? What's the criteria?
 
I want to know what y'all consider to be "ready" for the league. See a lot of guys saying that certain kids aren't ready, but what makes a kid ready in your eyes? Do you have to have an instant impact to be ready? Do you have to be a projected lotto pick? What's the criteria?

have an nba skill and ability to do it consistently at an elite level. rebounding usually translates. shooting and ability to get off a shot
physical size (especially for bigs). it's good to be a pf and dominate at 6'7'" but realistically, that's too small in the league
 
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the phrase "ready" isn't applicable anymore... the draft has changed, dudes aren't being picked so much anymore to be instant contributors.

Cal told Ulis if he planned on being there 4 years not to come. it's just a mentality... and Cal-speak.

if dudes are leaving because of a freshman coming in taking their minutes, they have bigger problems.



y'all never grow old of the Cal/bag jokes, huh?
 
Does college help a player at all? 

If it does, doesn't staying longer to improve at ________ make sense or do you guys think if you can't _______ , you'll never learn. 

If college doesn't help at all, damn. 
 
Does college help a player at all? 

If it does, doesn't staying longer to improve at ________ make sense or do you guys think if you can't _______ , you'll never learn. 


If college doesn't help at all, damn. 

what I try to tell all these idiot UK fans all the time: Cal helps these dudes get ready to be pros, he doesn't make them pros.
 
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Funny thing is Eddy Curry was good until his last few years
 
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