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He was a UAB commit, but they wouldn't give him a release if Davis went to another job.
The College Basketball Post
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by allen3xis,
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- Jan 20, 2006
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Cousins????
Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig Moneyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!
definitely
Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig Moneyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!
definitely
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Allen - you ever figure out prices for whatever BET day you guys goto? I'm either gonna be working or in Vegas during part of that week... but it'd becool to swing out to NY to catch a couple games. Let me know if you guys put a day together for real.
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I'll probably look into it this week...
I know myself I'd have to go to Day 1 at this point, same with the SJU people..hang around for day 2 if a win.
and that's a Tuesday, the 10th.
ill try figuring out the details.
I know myself I'd have to go to Day 1 at this point, same with the SJU people..hang around for day 2 if a win.
and that's a Tuesday, the 10th.
ill try figuring out the details.
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If I was old enough to drive I would.
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This team is a joke.
- Nov 15, 2007
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IF Cousisns picked Rice that would be crazy!
$+%# I would love to go to the tourney but I'm #+@%+%+ out here on the West Coast. Pac-10 tourney anyone???
$+%# I would love to go to the tourney but I'm #+@%+%+ out here on the West Coast. Pac-10 tourney anyone???
- Jan 13, 2001
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Most pac-10 teams don't wanna be at the pac-10 tourney man... good luck finding a fan to go with you.
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Michigan and Uconn play tomorrow? the hell?
- Jan 13, 2001
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hope like hell UCONN exposes them for what they are.... which i'm sure they will, Michigan plays so small. That game last night has me a little pissed -that's a pretty mediocre team we lost to, but i guess that's life on the road.
dacomeup
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- Jan 20, 2006
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UC finally being showed some attention in these things. I think that we're a big win away from become a tourney team. The problem is that I'm not surewhere that big win is going to come from looking at the remainder of our schedule. Hopefully, we can watch ND upset UCLA tomorrow.
- Jan 13, 2001
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Quette about to drop one to South Florida? the hell...?
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LOL.
had plenty of chances, too.
back to reality.
had plenty of chances, too.
back to reality.
- Aug 12, 2004
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man what a crazy season..... cant wait for march
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Come on Marquette...make your free throws!...can't be losing to garbage teams like USF. Now we got Nova, Lville and Uconn coming up. Unfortunately Ifeel more Ls coming.
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Fuel for the Fire? Johnny Flynn was quoted saying…
Coming into the season, this is the team I wanted to beat the most out of any team we play… I just got a thing against Villanova. Every time I play them I want to beat them. I want to talk junk to their fans. I want to yell at their bench. I just really want to beat them, beat them bad.
Cuse fans, any background on this???
dacomeup
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Damn Marquette. Out of all teams to drop the first game against you lose to South Florida?
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Cuse goes to Philly for a noon tip and wins, I'll be semi-shocked.
- Jan 27, 2001
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Not sure about the Jonny/Nova thing... Could have something to do with the loss to them in the BET last year? Dunno...
Didn't watch the game, but very surprised at Quette losing this one.
Didn't watch the game, but very surprised at Quette losing this one.
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6 1/2 man rotation + over 20 three attempts = bracket destroyers in March.
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8 is more than 8?
[h3]5 Top talents for this year's NBA draft[/h3]
As we approach the final month before March Madness, many NBA teams are still in the early stages of their work. "We haven't begun rating theseguys,'' one general manager said. "We're still just watching them play.''
That's why ratings will fluctuate over the coming months, as NBA scouting staffs meet, the results of the lottery spell out the order of the draft, andthe top prospects move from one workout to another. All of that said, here are five leading candidates for the top of the draft in June.
5. Georgetown freshman power forward/center Greg Monroe. Feelings for the 6-foot-10 Monroe ran lukewarm, even though he was named on fourof the five ballots cast by the GMs and league execs I polled this week. "He's the most talented of the guys who are remaining [after Nos. 1-4] andhe's tall,'' one GM explained.
The larger issue is the absence of All-Star potential in this year's pool. "The popular thing is to say that the draft is not good,'' aWestern Conference GM said. "Everyone is saying that every year. They were saying it last year and that could turn out to be one of the better drafts inrecent history.
"I like the draft.''
Others don't feel the same way.
"I think it's just a bad draft,'' another GM said. "A few will end up being better than you think, and if you get one of those guysit's a good draft for you. But if you're picking between 8 and 14, good luck.''
While my panel of experts had little to say about Monroe, three of them had strong opinions about Arizona junior power forward JordanHill.
"If you watched him play two years ago, he's not the same guy,'' a GM said. "He's got a great NBA body and there's no seriousdeficiencies in his game.''
Said another GM: "I'm a Jordan Hill guy. I think he's going to be good, like Tyrone Hill-good -- a journeyman-plus.''
4. Connecticut junior center Hasheem Thabeet. The 7-3 shot-blocker is viewed as a high-risk choice, with two GMs pointing out that most ofthe big mistakes in the draft are made on big men. I asked one GM what Thabeet needs to improve.
"Besides his clear ability to clog the lane and block shots and rebound his area -- I don't think he goes out and gets rebounds because hedoesn't move well -- he needs to work on everything else," the GM said. "He's got some things he can do, but there are some seriousdeficiencies that may never get cured.''
Said another GM: "As a freshman he was terrible -- he cost their team wins, and they kept playing him -- and as a sophomore it was the same thing. Theold saying is that you can't teach size. Well, you can't teach talent. Guys like Patrick Ewing and [Hakeem] Olajuwon and[Alonzo] Mourning were no-brainers, but after that go back and look at big guys who were picked between 4 and 20 as draftpicks and see how they all turned out.''
But another exec believes Thabeet could be excellent.
"There is risk,'' he acknowledged. "But if you look at the percentage of his growth [and improvement as a player] for the length of timehe's been playing basketball, it's pretty much off the charts. I've got to know more about the personality of the kid, his background, what kind ofpeople are around him, the motives and the agendas, because I don't have a 100 percent feel on him. But given what I know of him now, it's hard to nothave him in the top five. And if the draft was happening tonight, I'm not sure I wouldn't take him No. 2.''
3. Ricky Rubio, 18-year-old point guard of DKV Joventut (Spain). Rubio's stock has supposedly been falling this season, but threepanelists still named him as a No. 3 pick. "I know he's having an off year, but I like his ability to handle the ball, which is something noteverybody has,'' a GM said. "The technique of his shot has improved, and I think he'll end up as an OK shooter. He can really see the court --he has a gift for that -- and what surprises people is that he actually tries to play defense, which is going to make a lot of coaches happy.''
Another exec has the opposite opinion: "Rubio couldn't guard you.'' It shows the wide divergence of opinion that exists in the draft,especially at this early stage.
In any case, the 6-3 Rubio may not be available this June.
"He's not going to come out this year,'' said the personnel executive who is skeptical of Rubio's defense. "Too many people tellme he's locked in [with Joventut].''
2. Arizona State sophomore shooting guard James Harden. At last, a player upon whom the experts agree: The 6-5 Harden can become an NBAstar.
"He reminds me a little bit of [Paul] Pierce because he's not a great athlete, he's not a high riser, buthe's sneaky athletic,'' a GM said. "He's long, he's strong, he's got good size for a wing player, he shoots it. He's gotpoise, he plays at a good pace. He's got to get better at his ball handling, but I think he's got a chance to be a really good player.''
Said another GM: "He has such a great feel, kind of like BrandonRoy or Chris Mullin. He will be able to play with older players right away. And he has top-drawer character. The only thingI'll say is that he's got a little Rasheed [Wallace] in him, and I'm not talking about the technicals, becausehe's a mild-mannered guy. But he has that dimension where his teammates love him, and he wants to be one of the guys more than he wants to beKobe. He's more Robin than Batman, but that can be a good thing too. If you get him together with a stud, that's a perfectcombination.''
As always, however, there are questions.
"I wonder why he lets his team get down by double-digit points in multiple games before he wants to play,'' an executive said. "Don'ttell me it's coaching, because no coach wants to be down 20 at halftime of a college game. It unnerves me, as gifted as he is, that he allows his team toget into these situations.''
1. Oklahoma sophomore power forward Blake Griffin. The 6-10, 250-pound Griffin is the consensus No. 1 pick and a potential All-Star.
"He's not a polished offensive player, but he's bigger and stronger than everyone he plays against right now,'' a GM said. "Andthat's another thing in college basketball: It's so small. There are 6-7 centers everywhere and 6-5 power forwards all over the place, and there'sjust very little size and length. And so that's why some of the big guys aren't quite as good, because they'll have such an adjustment to make inthe NBA. But Blake Griffin is strong and quick and athletic, and he plays with intensity. He can't possibly fail.''
While Griffin will surely be a long-term NBA player, others believe he isn't necessarily going to become a star.
"He's an unbelievable athlete, but not an overly skilled player,'' an executive said. "He's a combination of strength and power,but he's not a jump shooter, and he has trouble scoring over people of length and size inside. People are assuming he'll be a great player, but Idon't see great players in this draft. I don't see a DerrickRose.''
Said another GM: "I don't know if he's going to be a star, but I think he's going to be very good. I think he's[Carlos] Boozer Lite.''
[h3]5 Top talents for this year's NBA draft[/h3]
As we approach the final month before March Madness, many NBA teams are still in the early stages of their work. "We haven't begun rating theseguys,'' one general manager said. "We're still just watching them play.''
That's why ratings will fluctuate over the coming months, as NBA scouting staffs meet, the results of the lottery spell out the order of the draft, andthe top prospects move from one workout to another. All of that said, here are five leading candidates for the top of the draft in June.
5. Georgetown freshman power forward/center Greg Monroe. Feelings for the 6-foot-10 Monroe ran lukewarm, even though he was named on fourof the five ballots cast by the GMs and league execs I polled this week. "He's the most talented of the guys who are remaining [after Nos. 1-4] andhe's tall,'' one GM explained.
The larger issue is the absence of All-Star potential in this year's pool. "The popular thing is to say that the draft is not good,'' aWestern Conference GM said. "Everyone is saying that every year. They were saying it last year and that could turn out to be one of the better drafts inrecent history.
"I like the draft.''
Others don't feel the same way.
"I think it's just a bad draft,'' another GM said. "A few will end up being better than you think, and if you get one of those guysit's a good draft for you. But if you're picking between 8 and 14, good luck.''
While my panel of experts had little to say about Monroe, three of them had strong opinions about Arizona junior power forward JordanHill.
"If you watched him play two years ago, he's not the same guy,'' a GM said. "He's got a great NBA body and there's no seriousdeficiencies in his game.''
Said another GM: "I'm a Jordan Hill guy. I think he's going to be good, like Tyrone Hill-good -- a journeyman-plus.''
4. Connecticut junior center Hasheem Thabeet. The 7-3 shot-blocker is viewed as a high-risk choice, with two GMs pointing out that most ofthe big mistakes in the draft are made on big men. I asked one GM what Thabeet needs to improve.
"Besides his clear ability to clog the lane and block shots and rebound his area -- I don't think he goes out and gets rebounds because hedoesn't move well -- he needs to work on everything else," the GM said. "He's got some things he can do, but there are some seriousdeficiencies that may never get cured.''
Said another GM: "As a freshman he was terrible -- he cost their team wins, and they kept playing him -- and as a sophomore it was the same thing. Theold saying is that you can't teach size. Well, you can't teach talent. Guys like Patrick Ewing and [Hakeem] Olajuwon and[Alonzo] Mourning were no-brainers, but after that go back and look at big guys who were picked between 4 and 20 as draftpicks and see how they all turned out.''
But another exec believes Thabeet could be excellent.
"There is risk,'' he acknowledged. "But if you look at the percentage of his growth [and improvement as a player] for the length of timehe's been playing basketball, it's pretty much off the charts. I've got to know more about the personality of the kid, his background, what kind ofpeople are around him, the motives and the agendas, because I don't have a 100 percent feel on him. But given what I know of him now, it's hard to nothave him in the top five. And if the draft was happening tonight, I'm not sure I wouldn't take him No. 2.''
3. Ricky Rubio, 18-year-old point guard of DKV Joventut (Spain). Rubio's stock has supposedly been falling this season, but threepanelists still named him as a No. 3 pick. "I know he's having an off year, but I like his ability to handle the ball, which is something noteverybody has,'' a GM said. "The technique of his shot has improved, and I think he'll end up as an OK shooter. He can really see the court --he has a gift for that -- and what surprises people is that he actually tries to play defense, which is going to make a lot of coaches happy.''
Another exec has the opposite opinion: "Rubio couldn't guard you.'' It shows the wide divergence of opinion that exists in the draft,especially at this early stage.
In any case, the 6-3 Rubio may not be available this June.
"He's not going to come out this year,'' said the personnel executive who is skeptical of Rubio's defense. "Too many people tellme he's locked in [with Joventut].''
2. Arizona State sophomore shooting guard James Harden. At last, a player upon whom the experts agree: The 6-5 Harden can become an NBAstar.
"He reminds me a little bit of [Paul] Pierce because he's not a great athlete, he's not a high riser, buthe's sneaky athletic,'' a GM said. "He's long, he's strong, he's got good size for a wing player, he shoots it. He's gotpoise, he plays at a good pace. He's got to get better at his ball handling, but I think he's got a chance to be a really good player.''
Said another GM: "He has such a great feel, kind of like BrandonRoy or Chris Mullin. He will be able to play with older players right away. And he has top-drawer character. The only thingI'll say is that he's got a little Rasheed [Wallace] in him, and I'm not talking about the technicals, becausehe's a mild-mannered guy. But he has that dimension where his teammates love him, and he wants to be one of the guys more than he wants to beKobe. He's more Robin than Batman, but that can be a good thing too. If you get him together with a stud, that's a perfectcombination.''
As always, however, there are questions.
"I wonder why he lets his team get down by double-digit points in multiple games before he wants to play,'' an executive said. "Don'ttell me it's coaching, because no coach wants to be down 20 at halftime of a college game. It unnerves me, as gifted as he is, that he allows his team toget into these situations.''
1. Oklahoma sophomore power forward Blake Griffin. The 6-10, 250-pound Griffin is the consensus No. 1 pick and a potential All-Star.
"He's not a polished offensive player, but he's bigger and stronger than everyone he plays against right now,'' a GM said. "Andthat's another thing in college basketball: It's so small. There are 6-7 centers everywhere and 6-5 power forwards all over the place, and there'sjust very little size and length. And so that's why some of the big guys aren't quite as good, because they'll have such an adjustment to make inthe NBA. But Blake Griffin is strong and quick and athletic, and he plays with intensity. He can't possibly fail.''
While Griffin will surely be a long-term NBA player, others believe he isn't necessarily going to become a star.
"He's an unbelievable athlete, but not an overly skilled player,'' an executive said. "He's a combination of strength and power,but he's not a jump shooter, and he has trouble scoring over people of length and size inside. People are assuming he'll be a great player, but Idon't see great players in this draft. I don't see a DerrickRose.''
Said another GM: "I don't know if he's going to be a star, but I think he's going to be very good. I think he's[Carlos] Boozer Lite.''
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Momroe is not ready.
Hasheem better come out now. Should be a top 5 -7 pick. Another Mutombo. All D, no O.
Rubio I don't see so I can't say.
Harden... I'm still not convinced. He has the tools. But just doesn't seem polished enough for the pros imo.
Blake... Another guy I'm just not convinced is worth the hype. Not as good as Beasley last year. Or Durant the year before imo. But we'll see.
I honestly like Steph Curry over Blake. And not cuz he's NT's prodigal son.
Hasheem better come out now. Should be a top 5 -7 pick. Another Mutombo. All D, no O.
Rubio I don't see so I can't say.
Harden... I'm still not convinced. He has the tools. But just doesn't seem polished enough for the pros imo.
Blake... Another guy I'm just not convinced is worth the hype. Not as good as Beasley last year. Or Durant the year before imo. But we'll see.
I honestly like Steph Curry over Blake. And not cuz he's NT's prodigal son.
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- Agreed. Draft ready, not NBA ready. Not just saying this, either. No right hand, still needs to develop a 17 footer and has to getstronger/quicker. 1 more year solves everything.
- I have faith he can develop a 15 foot jumper and some moves. But, Honestly his overall d is overrated. He's no Deke. I've been a supporter of his NBAfuture for a while now, but I have some concerns, big ones, still.
- same
- Disagree. He's as polished IMO as anyone coming out. i agree with the blurbs on him.
- think Blake's strength and athleticism will make up a lot for him. Agree that Mike and KD looked better.
Jordan Hill hype I still don't get it. somebody's gona take someone they KNOW will never amount to nothing more than a role player top 10? ehh.
