The College Basketball Post

[seymore cake]

Was the offer to leave C-Usa extended recently???

If so... dispicable

 

[scuse7]

Drop Depaul if possible

I see you Messiah. Cal would bring some problems to the Big East, something would happen. He is shady as hell

 

[dacomeup]

• You all do know that Marquette's Jerel McNeal is the best guard in the Big East, right?

He flat out produces. He's being overlooked seriously for BE POY.

• I see freshmen Jrue Holiday (UCLA) and DeMar DeRozan (USC) still listed as lottery picks on some NBA mock draft boards, and I can only shake my head. I mean, these guys are barely good college players right now.

Huge slurpfest for Jrue Holiday. Demar has so much potential and he shows it in flashes. Not consistent yet though.

• So let me get this straight. Memphis is a borderline top 25 team, and yet there is still no one in Conference USA who can beat them?

• I'm not quite buying the comparison, but an NBA executive recently told me he looks at James Harden and sees Brandon Roy.


Didn't someone on this board say that? I can see it in some ways.

 

[philballa09]

edit..nvm

@seth davis. Jrue barely good college player?

 

[allen3xis]

Blair
McNeal
Harangody

that'd be my top 3..with Terrence Williams hanging around after them

 

[cadillacflow]

I never understood why the BE took DePaul over Memphis during the C-USA purge (for the lost fans).

My only guess is because of the Chicago market. But, I don't think DePaul is big up there is it?

And just noticed people saying the Ville as a first round KO.

 

[seymore cake]

I mean its not bad.. its prolly the 2nd team you think about after U of I soooo... take it for what its worth.

 

[allen3xis]

Depaul is what SJU is.

some history, good local talent, but nobody to capitalize on it.

 

[craftsy21]

Anybody else get annoyed by how everyone is all of a sudden ready to follow college hoops now that football is over?

i get friends like asking me to catch them up on stuff... ugh

 

[blazinjkid]

• Oklahoma guard Willie Warren is challenging Georgetown's Greg Monroe for national freshman of the year. Warren, who is averaging 15.5 points on 39.4 percent shooting, scored 29 points during the Sooners' win over Iowa State on Saturday.
That boy has got some BUNNIES. Very reminiscent of Desmond Mason IMO.

• Virginia Tech could prove to be another interesting case if the Hokies are on the bubble. Remember, they lost two games on shots at the buzzer to Xavier and Wisconsin. In the case of the Xavier game, the loss came on a half-court shot. If that shot doesn't go in, the Hokies have a win over a top 10 team on their résumé. Members of the Selection Committee might not admit openly they take such close losses into consideration, but believe me, they do.

I guess somebody forgot to tell him they beat #1 WF @ home.

 

[zs05wc]

• While we're talking about Michigan, here's a little background on referee Jim Burr's decision to call Harris for a flagrant foul (which causes an automatic ejection) when he swung his elbow and caught Purdue guard Chris Kramer on the nose. Two weeks ago, John Adams, the NCAA's supervisor of officials, addressed part of his monthly memorandum to his concern about "a reluctance of officials in all conferences to call intentional personal and flagrant personal fouls when warranted." Adams specifically addressed situations involving "excessive swinging of the elbow" -- in other words, elbows that have been swung in a way that is not a "regular basketball move." In those instances, the referee's call depends on whether or not contact has been made. If there is no contact, the player is supposed to be whistled for a violation -- the other team gets the ball, but no foul is called. If contact is made, as was the case with Kramer, the player is supposed to be automatically called for a flagrant foul. In other words, if you excessively swing your elbows, you cannot be called for a simple personal foul. It's either a violation (no contact) or an ejection (contact).
I think they need to look this rule over. I think if the elbow is thrown with bad intent then it should be an ejection, but in Harris' casewhere he was just trying to create space for himself it should just be a personal. He clearly wasn't trying to hurt the kid. What was even more !%@*$$@+was Kramer was back in two minutes later. I understand the refs have to try to control this but I think you can tell if an elbow is accidental or on purpose.

 

[jamesonnt]

Originally Posted by CadillacFLOW

(for the lost fans).

two best threads on NT.

 

[craftsy21]

Originally Posted by zs05wc

• While we're talking about Michigan, here's a little background on referee Jim Burr's decision to call Harris for a flagrant foul (which causes an automatic ejection) when he swung his elbow and caught Purdue guard Chris Kramer on the nose. Two weeks ago, John Adams, the NCAA's supervisor of officials, addressed part of his monthly memorandum to his concern about "a reluctance of officials in all conferences to call intentional personal and flagrant personal fouls when warranted." Adams specifically addressed situations involving "excessive swinging of the elbow" -- in other words, elbows that have been swung in a way that is not a "regular basketball move." In those instances, the referee's call depends on whether or not contact has been made. If there is no contact, the player is supposed to be whistled for a violation -- the other team gets the ball, but no foul is called. If contact is made, as was the case with Kramer, the player is supposed to be automatically called for a flagrant foul. In other words, if you excessively swing your elbows, you cannot be called for a simple personal foul. It's either a violation (no contact) or an ejection (contact).

I think they need to look this rule over. I think if the elbow is thrown with bad intent then it should be an ejection, but in Harris' case where he was just trying to create space for himself it should just be a personal. He clearly wasn't trying to hurt the kid. What was even more !%@*$$@+ was Kramer was back in two minutes later. I understand the refs have to try to control this but I think you can tell if an elbow is accidental or on purpose.
Agreed - kramer had one coming anyways, dude is annoying on defense.

 

[N41D]

SEC is garbage as well as the Big XII which has always been overrated as a BCS basketball conference.
When has anybody ever talked about the BigXII being any good as a basketball conference aside from the last couple of years?

although I expected more out of Jerrels
Jerrells has been AWFUL since conference play started... He's had two good games in conference play... Disappointing to say the least...

 

[jdcurt2]

Need a W badly tonight

 

[swendro]

Late, but just looking for opinions on this:

[h1][/h1]

[h1]Jay Bilas Has Emotional Problems[/h1]
By Brian - February 2nd, 2009 at 3:11 PM - 7 comments

Filed under:

• jay bilas
• lolmsm
• manny harris

Ball transfer with 19 minutes left in a close contest:

Jay Bilas:

"Something must be done about Michigan basketball … [Beilein] must get control of his program."


Flying elbow with under a minute left in a twelve-point game:

Bilas:

"There was nothing wrong with Hansbrough going after that rebound. There was nothing wrong with him trying to score, or with Henderson fouling him. The problem was it was an excessive foul. The rule as written has nothing to do with intent. I don't think Henderson intended to hurt him, but that's not the issue. It was a foul that was too hard. It doesn't make either of them bad kids."


It's been brought up again and again since Tommy Amaker was deservedly fired: Jay Bilas has completely lost his head about Michigan and shouldn't talk about them, ever. Two years ago ESPN ranked the most underachieving programs from 1997 to 2007, and Michigan was #1 with a bullet. Bilas left them off his ballot entirely. A month earlier he attempted to paint the Michigan basketball program as a decrepit wasteland completely demolished by sanctions then ten years old. Midway through Beilein's first season Bilas laid into some harmless comment by Beilein in a manner so stupid it drew a fisk from Jim Carty, who at that time was not a blogger but a sportswriter. Yahoo's Adrian Wojnarowski picked it up, too:

The more Bilas shills for Amaker, the more people in basketball laugh at him. Unlike Amaker, Beilein never had the ultimate coaching godfather to pick up the phone and get him a job.

"C'mon Jay, that is terrible," an NBA scout who watched Amaker's team regularly in the Big Ten emailed me this week after reading Bilas' blog rant. "Almost laughable, really."


Even when Bilas is attempting to defend his ridiculous comments about Michigan in the wake of the Harris ejection he fabricates:

"I respect his right to protect his kid and stand up for him, and I respect that, but that doesn't mean I have to buy it. I don't buy it. I saw (the play) 100 times. That's not a basketball play. That's not the way the game is played. How many games are played every day, high school, college or pro, and players execute rip-through moves, and how many noses are broken?"


This is in reference to Beilein describing it as a basketball play. Bilas leaves something out, though:

Players and coaches from both sides said afterward they thought it simply was a "basketball play." Kramer said he didn't consider it a "dirty" play.


Both Painter and Kramer said they saw nothing dirty in the play. Again: Bilas is suggesting that Harris intentionally clocked Kramer in the face because he was frustrated with 19 minutes left in a game Michigan was leading. But Gerald Henderson didn't intend to hurt Tyler Hansborough when he gave him a flying ninja elbow in garbage time. One of these things is "not a basketball play". The other doesn't consider itself a basketball play, it considers itself a leader.

Every time Bilas opens his mouth about Michigan he flushes more of his credibility down the toilet.

 

[true 3 blue]

G town struggling early.

 

[jdcurt2]

 

[mdterps4]

UNC is shooting lights out from 3 point range.

 

[kidoopz]

Umm.. WHAT is a FOUL now a days?? I know im not the only one watching the purdue vs Ohio State game..

 

[jaflash]

Kind of late request but can someone make me an avy of Adrien celebrating against Louisville.

 

[cadillacflow]

Originally Posted by JaFlash

Kind of late request but can someone make me an avy of Adrien celebrating against Louisville.

Hater.

j/k

Man, UK is stinking the place up right now. And got Florida next. Tubby > Billy G.

 

[true 3 blue]

Will Walker putting in work on Marqueete

 

[jaflash]

Originally Posted by true 3 blue

Will Walker putting in work on Marqueete

Hope he stays hot and they pull off the upset. That would be awesome.

 

[Sonny Corinthos]

There's no good reason for Georgia Tech not to have Nike jerseys