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Trey Bantz · Feb 8, 2016

These arbitrary comparisons are always pointless. There's no real barometer to base these statements and arguments off of. This Broncos team went 12-4, clinched the #1 seed in the AFC, beat the Patriots in the AFCCG, and won the Super Bowl against a team that everyone said they were going to lose to. All this after benching Peyton halfway through the season, then benching his back-up because he was playing even worse than Peyton was (which was awful to begin with). This Denver defense is absolutely stacked, just give credit where credit is due and move on.

dmxfury · Feb 8, 2016

Worse performance. Ben 05 or Peyton last night? :lol:

And Denver offense wasn't this horrific all year long

Trey Bantz · Feb 8, 2016

Peyton. At least Ben had a rushing TD.

But yeah, Randle El was a better QB than Ben that day :lol:

mister friendly · Feb 8, 2016

Chester McFloppy said:
Mister Friendly said:

The Seahawks offense helps keep the Seahawks defense fresh.

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Nothing like throwing 4 picks during the NFCCG to keep your defense fresh, amirite?!

Yes screw possession stats the Seahawks offense have been near the top of the league since 2012. Lets just talk about the 2014 NFL Championship Game.

mister friendly · Feb 8, 2016

Keko Jones said:
about time Payton got carried. Dude has been doing the carrying all his career.

Yes Peyton having to carry Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, Reggie Wayne, Jeff Saturday, Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Bob Sanders and that coach Tony Dungy.

whywesteppin · Feb 8, 2016

to be fair, Peyton did put together a couple decent drives. he could have been worse. although all those stalled end zone drives were pretty bad.

Peyton didn't carry those indi teams single-handedly but he had to step up and win games. something he didn't have to do this year.

whywesteppin · Feb 8, 2016

one last thing. since people continuously argue you need to win championships to be considered great, and use that to discredit people like Marino or even Peyton because he had only won one, all those people have no choice but to give credit to Peyton for winning a second championship.

me personally I realize football requires a team more than any other sport, so someone can be great without any rings (Barry, Marino) and vice versa.

Trey Bantz · Feb 8, 2016

The second ring is a nice way to go out for Peyton, but I don't think the outcome of last night's game could have added or taken away from his legacy. Everyone knows he was just along for the ride this year.

bronconation24 · Feb 8, 2016

trey ohh five said:
These arbitrary comparisons are always pointless. There's no real barometer to base these statements and arguments off of. This Broncos team went 12-4, clinched the #1 seed in the AFC, beat the Patriots in the AFCCG, and won the Super Bowl against a team that everyone said they were going to lose to. All this after benching Peyton halfway through the season, then benching his back-up because he was playing even worse than Peyton was (which was awful to begin with). This Denver defense is absolutely stacked, just give credit where credit is due and move on.

keko jones · Feb 8, 2016

Mister Friendly said:
Yes Peyton having to carry Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, Reggie Wayne, Jeff Saturday, Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Bob Sanders and that coach Tony Dungy.

glad you know the team. Im sure the qb didn't play any part in making them great. Oh BTW, how was their defense and how many points did they have to score to be competitive?

But yeah, that's like saying Montana was only great because ... well ... you win ... you win .... I just refuses to do this with you.

Trey Bantz · Feb 8, 2016

Yeah a lot of those Colts defenses were Charmin soft.

Of course he had talent around him, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Peyton was absolutely electric in Indy.

keko jones · Feb 8, 2016

trey ohh five said:
Yeah a lot of those Colts defenses were Charmin soft.

Of course he had talent around him, but it doesn't take away from the fact that Peyton was absolutely electric in Indy.

the stupidity you hear sometimes man.. people will say the dumbest things to disagree or discredit a great QB and all his accolades. Everyone knows Payton carry those teams and made those receiver all-stars.

The argument is just ....

7th Chamber · Feb 8, 2016

Peyton in his prime was :pimp:

mister friendly · Feb 8, 2016

Yes Peyton can only affect his great players positively and they can only effect him negatively.

Peyton :smokin

rook · Feb 8, 2016

mikejs210 said:
Peyton in his prime was

Prime Peyton is the GOAT. People forget just how crazy the stats he put up were man. Those colts defenses were terrible most of the time. Bob Sanders is still my fav player on defense ever tho. Dude was such a monster pre injuries

The narrative that for once in his career that his teammates picked up the slack while he struggled is real. Didn't think about it that way until it was brought up.

Trey Bantz · Feb 8, 2016

Calling him GOAT might be stretching it.

rolaholic · Feb 8, 2016

Mister Friendly said:
Yes Peyton can only affect his great players positively and they can only effect him negatively.

Peyton

rook · Feb 8, 2016

trey ohh five said:
Calling him GOAT might be stretching it.

If y'all don't get off Peyton "2x SB champ" jock man :lol:

you call it stretching it, I call it being very debatable

a55a5in11 · Feb 9, 2016

Keko Jones said:
Mister Friendly said:

Yes Peyton having to carry Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, Reggie Wayne, Jeff Saturday, Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Bob Sanders and that coach Tony Dungy.

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glad you know the team. Im sure the qb didn't play any part in making them great. Oh BTW, how was their defense and how many points did they have to score to be competitive?

But yeah, that's like saying Montana was only great because ... well ... you win ... you win .... I just refuses to do this with you.

You must have forgot the defense carrying his team the year he won his first ring

7th Chamber · Feb 9, 2016

I'm fine giving Peyton his respect and acknowledging him as an all time great and top 5 ever to play. But I don't see how he passes Montana and/or Brady with his performance this season and playoff run.

mister friendly · Feb 9, 2016

Keko Jones said:
Mister Friendly said:

Yes Peyton having to carry Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, Reggie Wayne, Jeff Saturday, Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Bob Sanders and that coach Tony Dungy.

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glad you know the team. Im sure the qb didn't play any part in making them great. Oh BTW, how was their defense and how many points did they have to score to be competitive?

But yeah, that's like saying Montana was only great because ... well ... you win ... you win .... I just refuses to do this with you.

I mean the Colts did have a top 10 scoring defense 5 times while Peyton was there.

Including one season where they finished as the top scoring defense.

MVP · Feb 9, 2016

I think after Montana, they're all in a similar realm, Brady has the most playoff success, but he's a cheater. Elway and Manning are on the same level, Peyton may very the slight edge cause of his regular season prowess.