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Wouldn’t you want a diverse school? Having 90% asian doesn’t sound diverse
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Thank you!! Their incoming freshman class was 33% white legacy students yet somehow affirmative action is the target and reason why they didn’t get it.White students account for the vast majority at these Ivy League schools. I wouldn't have an issue with the lawsuit if it didn't solely target Black and Latino students who make up the smallest percentages of students. But you can't complain about affirmative action and then criticize White enrollment. If the people behind this lawsuit truly wanted a bigger slice of the pie, they have to throw White students in there, especially Legacy students. The lawsuit only seemed credible when it targeted Affirmative Action Black and Latino students because then Whites could get onboard with it.
Are you trolling or is that how you actually interpreted that sentence?
Civil Rights did not put what's best for black people at odds with what's best for Asian people. It was fighting for rights for everyone. There's no comparison to this situation. Black people aren't going to support any type of legislation that harms their people for Asians. You never did anything different so to say "black people should have done the same" is a reach.
Affirmative Action is doing that. For an Asian person to be for Affirmative Action, that is to say that their child will be discriminated against for the benefit of white, black, and brown students.
Again you say, "just to have said groups not stand in solidarity with us" when the majority of Asian Americans still support Affirmative Action in spite of it being discriminating towards them. You're hostile to a group of people who are by in large taking it in the chin and supportive of a policy because they're thinking about your best interest and literally putting it above theirs. How is it reasonable or logical to be mad at Asians.
Can't remember numbers specifically, but there's been a few pieces that have mentioned if you're a legacy applicant you're a shoo-in. Not implying that means they're going to fail at those schools, but the standards are different.jw are there data on legacy applicants? by going off some of these posts, you would think most of them are straight up bums lol.
personally, if the legacy applicants have similar or better stats, i wouldn't mind them getting a nod. but that's just me.
33% like I said earlier
“Over 33 percent of legacy applicants—Harvard hopefuls with at least one parent who graduated from the College or Radcliffe—gained admission to the Classes of 2014 through 2019, according to documents filed Friday in an admissions lawsuit against the University.”
Legacy Admit Rate Five Times That of Non-Legacies, Court Docs Show | News | The Harvard Crimson
Over 33 percent of legacy applicants—Harvard hopefuls with at least one parent who graduated from the College or Radcliffe—gained admission to the Classes of 2014 through 2019.www.thecrimson.com
But you are implying or thinking they're bums. What are they have better stats than the average admits?
What if pigs fly?
Point is first and foremost they should be investigating and targeting this far larger % as opposed to the already small % of students who have a legitimate claim of discrimination.
And considering what we know from college cheating scandal, this 33% community of students already have a massive advantage.
When did I call anybody a bum?But you are implying or thinking they're bums. What are they have better stats than the average admits?
When did I call anybody a bum?
that's the thing, if they have already done research on the legacy applicants, which is what my question is asking, and they found that legacy applicants to have better all around stats, how would you target them?
for instance, if the majority of legacy applicants had the top 5% in stats + had family who were alum, why knock that?
and no i'm not saying i'm a fan of eliminating AA.
Look at all of the ifs you are adding. The point is they didn't bother to do this study and release the data. Instead, as they have been trying to do for since its inception they target black students and affirmative action.
We can what if, what if, what if this to death and derail this entire subject. But no, lets stay on task.
33% like I said earlier
“Over 33 percent of legacy applicants—Harvard hopefuls with at least one parent who graduated from the College or Radcliffe—gained admission to the Classes of 2014 through 2019, according to documents filed Friday in an admissions lawsuit against the University.”
Legacy Admit Rate Five Times That of Non-Legacies, Court Docs Show | News | The Harvard Crimson
Over 33 percent of legacy applicants—Harvard hopefuls with at least one parent who graduated from the College or Radcliffe—gained admission to the Classes of 2014 through 2019.www.thecrimson.com
"If you look at the credentials of Harvard alumni and alumnae sons and daughters, they are better candidates on average,” Fitzsimmons said. “Very few who apply have no chance of getting in.”
Can this be categorized under white supremacy?Semi-Related and Interesting
Top school principal hides students’ academic awards in name of ‘equity’
The director of student services admitted that the decision to withhold the information in a low-key way was intentional.nypost.com
For years, two administrators at Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology (TJ) have been withholding notifications of National Merit awards from the school’s families, most of them Asian, thus denying students the right to use those awards to boost their college admission prospects and earn scholarships. This episode has emerged amid the school district’s new strategy of “equal outcomes for every student, without exception.” School administrators, for instance, have implemented an “equitable grading” policy that eliminates zeros, gives students a grade of 50 percent just for showing up, and assigns a cryptic code of “NTI” for assignments not turned in. It’s a race to the bottom.