So I Got Into An Argument At The Gym... VOl. D rose

[80jerryrice80]

Originally Posted by PoeticJays

Rose isn't in D.Will or CP3's class yet, but his ceiling is higher than either of them. He has Lebron-like athleticism at the PG position, give it a couple years, and I think he'll be better than Deron Williams. Deron williams in college was nowhere near this good.

I'm gonna have to say that if D-rose beats Boston in this series, than D-rose is better than D-williams.

 

[bangdak]

Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh

Originally Posted by BangDak

osh, with 3 seconds left, who would you leave to take the shot? deron or cp3?
cp3's shooting percentage may be higher, but he doesnt take as much shots (dont quote me on this)
as of right now, of course i would take deron and cp3 over rose. but you would have to consider, will drose hit a rookie wall?
this guy's athleticism is crazy, and if he develops into an even more explosive pg then he already is, it'll definitely be debatable.

Judging players based on who would take the last shot is so flawed. I judge players based on the entire wealth of their talents not one hypothetical situation. Plus according to 82games clutch stats has Paul over Deron in terms of scoring.

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In terms of shooting Paul is hitting at a better percentage in terms of midrange and 3p% and Deron is supposed to be a better shooter?

i tried to take out the graph, but i fail

taking the last shots is not flawed. if i was to run in offense, no doubt i would take cp3 (although i really dislike some of his cheap shots, but lets notstart that again) but why would percentages matter if you indeed would choose deron to take the last shot over cp3?
and do you have the stat on shot attempts?
from watching hornet games, all he does is run around and gives out dishes most of the time. in the jazzs game, deron takes it to the hoop, getting the easy 2free throw shots, looking for teammates, and shooting. deron is more of a 2, with the handles and court vision of a 1. imo, he's a combo guard.

 

[eltizzle]

cp3, def. but dwill, i'd have to get it a long thinkover

 

[jsindaa]

Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk

Originally Posted by yungmatt

Originally Posted by JsindaA

Wow some of you are watching WAAAAYYY to much espn. I'm not saying he IS better but it's not crazy to say he is either. With the #1 reason being he actually runs an offense as opposed to running around the court until someone gets open. Deron is also a better shooter..maybe a better scorer. Passing is literally a wash. Deron also is a better on ball defender...that doesn't mean a better defender period tho. CP3 has shown a better ability to lead so he would get the nod for that aspect alone. HOWEVER they are soooo close in everything that it's laughable to say either is that much better than the other. CP3 reminds me of Nash in D'antoni's offense in that he runs alot of high pick and roll....and he dribbles around alot, can't shoot as well and is a better defender/rebounder. DWill reminds me more of a JKidd in that he runs a very disciplined offense, he can shoot WAAY better but is nowhere near the rebounder that Kidd is. At the end of the day it's going to come down to preference.

This @@#* is soo annoying... It seems like more and more people on this board use this statement to open up an argument about hoops.

Please let me know, what does that have to do with the point you are trying to prove? You just felt like saying it didnt you?

I ain't even responding to dudes that throw this %%#@ around anymore... Dudes acting like there ain't this thing I can order that'll let me watch damn near every damn game over the course of a season...

And as far as "Deron Williams actually runs an offense" ...

Get outta here, you're in over your head and clearly don't understand what you're talkin about...

And when has Jason Kidd ever ran a slow-paced, disciplined offense and been successful? Kidd has NEVER played well in that kinda offense... Hell, when has he ever even played in a slow paced offense like Utah's? Comparing the two based off that aspect only furthers the notion that you don't know what you're talkin about...

Keyword...some. You act like dudes DON'T base there opinions from highlights and what they hear/read in the media. Sooo you're telling meDeron doesn't run an offense? Because that's just...well....false. Utah has always ran that disciplined offense. And it's not really that slowpaced but whatever. I said a disciplined offense which Kidd ran in Jersey. I didn't mention anything about the pace they play at. If you think CP3 isbetter fine. If someone thinks D Wil is better fine. But to say that it's laughable to compare the two show that the ONLY person who doesn't know whatthey are talking about is....you.