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Interesting theory.Originally Posted by Manglor
Anyone who picks a side in the floyd vs. manny thing has already lost.
Floyd has ducked and dodged the BEST fighters most of his career. That's fact, he admits it openly saying that there are many guys more dangerous then the paychecks they would give him so he won't fight them. Even the best he has fought came with stipulations. Corrales was forced to go so low in weight he was DEAD before the bell rang to start the fight. He avoided mosley for a decade until he was so ring worn from fighting everyone floyd wouldn't that he isn't really a threat anymore yet he STILL had floyd out on his feet in the second round. When he fought Castillo he LOST hands down and everyone who knows boxing agrees though he did win the rematch easily. He will never fight guys in their prime like he is right now who pose a serious threat. Sergio Martinez would make for one of the most interesting matchups of the last few years and he calls out floyd regularly. Paul Williams would roast floyd but since floyd will have nothing to do with either of those great fighters they are gonna fight one another, again. He picks and chooses fights so carefully that his true legacy will be more like that of roy jones(duck and dodger)then a true champ like joe calzage who fought EVERYONE.
Manny is another story altogether. In the begining he fought everyone. He fought guys people gave him no chance to beat and he went to war. He won and he lost but he gained respect every single time cause that is what a fighter should do. Then he fought marquez and everything changed. He started forcing every single fighter to either move up to a weight that they aren't built for or move down to a weight that they can't make. It made every fight unfair physically. Look at the de la hoya fight which was supposedly his biggest win. They KILLED de la hoya at the weigh in. If you re-watch the fight you can see before it even started that roach tells manny to jump on him cause he's dead. In an interview after roach says right when they got in the ring he saw the needle marks on de la hoyas arm showing he needed fluids which happens when you cut weight too much and can't keep down food or water. Roach trained de la hoya and knew exactly what weight he could not survive and used that to smash him. Same thing with cotto. That fight at a higher weight class is an epic war for sure. Drained like that cotto is a punching bag. It's not cheating but it sure isn't boxing. The whole steriod thing is beyond laughable. Of course he juices. There is no question anymore. Look at how his SKULL has changed shape in recent years. That doesn't happen for ANY other reason. He refuses olympic style testing saying it's cause he's scared of needles? Really? Then when floyd busts mosleys ancient #!% roach says oh well ok we'll test up to two weeks before the fight like you wanted! Of course floyd won't accept that now after mosley buzzed him and after he beat mosley who is someone roach has said before that manny will never fight because he's too dangerous unless he comes down to a weight that would kill him. i honestly don't think most of this stuff is mannys fault. He's too stupid. Roach pulls all the strings and he has turned a once fearless warrior into a drug-using fight fixing chump.
The worst part is that they are both so horribly talented they COULD be giving us some of the best fights in the history of boxing. Instead one avoids the best there is and the other uses drugs and fame to force people into fights they can't win. Both cowards in their own ways that are too scared to fight one another for fear of losing the legacy neither of them actually have.
Interesting theory.Originally Posted by Manglor
Anyone who picks a side in the floyd vs. manny thing has already lost.
Floyd has ducked and dodged the BEST fighters most of his career. That's fact, he admits it openly saying that there are many guys more dangerous then the paychecks they would give him so he won't fight them. Even the best he has fought came with stipulations. Corrales was forced to go so low in weight he was DEAD before the bell rang to start the fight. He avoided mosley for a decade until he was so ring worn from fighting everyone floyd wouldn't that he isn't really a threat anymore yet he STILL had floyd out on his feet in the second round. When he fought Castillo he LOST hands down and everyone who knows boxing agrees though he did win the rematch easily. He will never fight guys in their prime like he is right now who pose a serious threat. Sergio Martinez would make for one of the most interesting matchups of the last few years and he calls out floyd regularly. Paul Williams would roast floyd but since floyd will have nothing to do with either of those great fighters they are gonna fight one another, again. He picks and chooses fights so carefully that his true legacy will be more like that of roy jones(duck and dodger)then a true champ like joe calzage who fought EVERYONE.
Manny is another story altogether. In the begining he fought everyone. He fought guys people gave him no chance to beat and he went to war. He won and he lost but he gained respect every single time cause that is what a fighter should do. Then he fought marquez and everything changed. He started forcing every single fighter to either move up to a weight that they aren't built for or move down to a weight that they can't make. It made every fight unfair physically. Look at the de la hoya fight which was supposedly his biggest win. They KILLED de la hoya at the weigh in. If you re-watch the fight you can see before it even started that roach tells manny to jump on him cause he's dead. In an interview after roach says right when they got in the ring he saw the needle marks on de la hoyas arm showing he needed fluids which happens when you cut weight too much and can't keep down food or water. Roach trained de la hoya and knew exactly what weight he could not survive and used that to smash him. Same thing with cotto. That fight at a higher weight class is an epic war for sure. Drained like that cotto is a punching bag. It's not cheating but it sure isn't boxing. The whole steriod thing is beyond laughable. Of course he juices. There is no question anymore. Look at how his SKULL has changed shape in recent years. That doesn't happen for ANY other reason. He refuses olympic style testing saying it's cause he's scared of needles? Really? Then when floyd busts mosleys ancient #!% roach says oh well ok we'll test up to two weeks before the fight like you wanted! Of course floyd won't accept that now after mosley buzzed him and after he beat mosley who is someone roach has said before that manny will never fight because he's too dangerous unless he comes down to a weight that would kill him. i honestly don't think most of this stuff is mannys fault. He's too stupid. Roach pulls all the strings and he has turned a once fearless warrior into a drug-using fight fixing chump.
The worst part is that they are both so horribly talented they COULD be giving us some of the best fights in the history of boxing. Instead one avoids the best there is and the other uses drugs and fame to force people into fights they can't win. Both cowards in their own ways that are too scared to fight one another for fear of losing the legacy neither of them actually have.
Originally Posted by RustyShackleford
That is complete BS. Most of his careerOriginally Posted by Manglor
Anyone who picks a side in the floyd vs. manny thing has already lost.
Floyd has ducked and dodged the BEST fighters most of his career. That's fact, he admits it openly saying that there are many guys more dangerous then the paychecks they would give him so he won't fight them. Even the best he has fought came with stipulations. Corrales was forced to go so low in weight he was DEAD before the bell rang to start the fight. He avoided mosley for a decade until he was so ring worn from fighting everyone floyd wouldn't that he isn't really a threat anymore yet he STILL had floyd out on his feet in the second round. When he fought Castillo he LOST hands down and everyone who knows boxing agrees though he did win the rematch easily. He will never fight guys in their prime like he is right now who pose a serious threat. Sergio Martinez would make for one of the most interesting matchups of the last few years and he calls out floyd regularly. Paul Williams would roast floyd but since floyd will have nothing to do with either of those great fighters they are gonna fight one another, again. He picks and chooses fights so carefully that his true legacy will be more like that of roy jones(duck and dodger)then a true champ like joe calzage who fought EVERYONE.
Manny is another story altogether. In the begining he fought everyone. He fought guys people gave him no chance to beat and he went to war. He won and he lost but he gained respect every single time cause that is what a fighter should do. Then he fought marquez and everything changed. He started forcing every single fighter to either move up to a weight that they aren't built for or move down to a weight that they can't make. It made every fight unfair physically. Look at the de la hoya fight which was supposedly his biggest win. They KILLED de la hoya at the weigh in. If you re-watch the fight you can see before it even started that roach tells manny to jump on him cause he's dead. In an interview after roach says right when they got in the ring he saw the needle marks on de la hoyas arm showing he needed fluids which happens when you cut weight too much and can't keep down food or water. Roach trained de la hoya and knew exactly what weight he could not survive and used that to smash him. Same thing with cotto. That fight at a higher weight class is an epic war for sure. Drained like that cotto is a punching bag. It's not cheating but it sure isn't boxing. The whole steriod thing is beyond laughable. Of course he juices. There is no question anymore. Look at how his SKULL has changed shape in recent years. That doesn't happen for ANY other reason. He refuses olympic style testing saying it's cause he's scared of needles? Really? Then when floyd busts mosleys ancient #!% roach says oh well ok we'll test up to two weeks before the fight like you wanted! Of course floyd won't accept that now after mosley buzzed him and after he beat mosley who is someone roach has said before that manny will never fight because he's too dangerous unless he comes down to a weight that would kill him. i honestly don't think most of this stuff is mannys fault. He's too stupid. Roach pulls all the strings and he has turned a once fearless warrior into a drug-using fight fixing chump.
The worst part is that they are both so horribly talented they COULD be giving us some of the best fights in the history of boxing. Instead one avoids the best there is and the other uses drugs and fame to force people into fights they can't win. Both cowards in their own ways that are too scared to fight one another for fear of losing the legacy neither of them actually have.. He has been doing that for his most recent fight but not most of his career. You're exaggerating bro![]()
Originally Posted by RustyShackleford
That is complete BS. Most of his careerOriginally Posted by Manglor
Anyone who picks a side in the floyd vs. manny thing has already lost.
Floyd has ducked and dodged the BEST fighters most of his career. That's fact, he admits it openly saying that there are many guys more dangerous then the paychecks they would give him so he won't fight them. Even the best he has fought came with stipulations. Corrales was forced to go so low in weight he was DEAD before the bell rang to start the fight. He avoided mosley for a decade until he was so ring worn from fighting everyone floyd wouldn't that he isn't really a threat anymore yet he STILL had floyd out on his feet in the second round. When he fought Castillo he LOST hands down and everyone who knows boxing agrees though he did win the rematch easily. He will never fight guys in their prime like he is right now who pose a serious threat. Sergio Martinez would make for one of the most interesting matchups of the last few years and he calls out floyd regularly. Paul Williams would roast floyd but since floyd will have nothing to do with either of those great fighters they are gonna fight one another, again. He picks and chooses fights so carefully that his true legacy will be more like that of roy jones(duck and dodger)then a true champ like joe calzage who fought EVERYONE.
Manny is another story altogether. In the begining he fought everyone. He fought guys people gave him no chance to beat and he went to war. He won and he lost but he gained respect every single time cause that is what a fighter should do. Then he fought marquez and everything changed. He started forcing every single fighter to either move up to a weight that they aren't built for or move down to a weight that they can't make. It made every fight unfair physically. Look at the de la hoya fight which was supposedly his biggest win. They KILLED de la hoya at the weigh in. If you re-watch the fight you can see before it even started that roach tells manny to jump on him cause he's dead. In an interview after roach says right when they got in the ring he saw the needle marks on de la hoyas arm showing he needed fluids which happens when you cut weight too much and can't keep down food or water. Roach trained de la hoya and knew exactly what weight he could not survive and used that to smash him. Same thing with cotto. That fight at a higher weight class is an epic war for sure. Drained like that cotto is a punching bag. It's not cheating but it sure isn't boxing. The whole steriod thing is beyond laughable. Of course he juices. There is no question anymore. Look at how his SKULL has changed shape in recent years. That doesn't happen for ANY other reason. He refuses olympic style testing saying it's cause he's scared of needles? Really? Then when floyd busts mosleys ancient #!% roach says oh well ok we'll test up to two weeks before the fight like you wanted! Of course floyd won't accept that now after mosley buzzed him and after he beat mosley who is someone roach has said before that manny will never fight because he's too dangerous unless he comes down to a weight that would kill him. i honestly don't think most of this stuff is mannys fault. He's too stupid. Roach pulls all the strings and he has turned a once fearless warrior into a drug-using fight fixing chump.
The worst part is that they are both so horribly talented they COULD be giving us some of the best fights in the history of boxing. Instead one avoids the best there is and the other uses drugs and fame to force people into fights they can't win. Both cowards in their own ways that are too scared to fight one another for fear of losing the legacy neither of them actually have.. He has been doing that for his most recent fight but not most of his career. You're exaggerating bro![]()
say what you want..i dont give a %#%%.i liked both fighters.i was talking about racist comments, not duckin, steroids....blah blah blah...its fine with me for fighters to diss, but choose words wisely....pac aint talking trash about , HOW CAN I NOT BEAT FLYOD, HIS LIPS ARE BIG ENOUGH TO HIT WHILE HES BLOCKIN, OR WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PIZZA AND A BLACK MAN....A PIZZA CAN FEED A FAMILY OF FOUR....hows that not offensive to black folks..****ttt , id be pissed....grow the $#%% up..OH YAH THIS IS NT, WE CAN MAKE FUN OF ALL OTHER RACES, BUT IF THEY BLACK , ITS A NO NO........Originally Posted by sbrar8
Originally Posted by j671
racist clown..hope he talks trash about the wrong person so they can kill this fool....so i can piss on his grave.
mad pacquiao nuthugger
say what you want..i dont give a %#%%.i liked both fighters.i was talking about racist comments, not duckin, steroids....blah blah blah...its fine with me for fighters to diss, but choose words wisely....pac aint talking trash about , HOW CAN I NOT BEAT FLYOD, HIS LIPS ARE BIG ENOUGH TO HIT WHILE HES BLOCKIN, OR WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PIZZA AND A BLACK MAN....A PIZZA CAN FEED A FAMILY OF FOUR....hows that not offensive to black folks..****ttt , id be pissed....grow the $#%% up..OH YAH THIS IS NT, WE CAN MAKE FUN OF ALL OTHER RACES, BUT IF THEY BLACK , ITS A NO NO........Originally Posted by sbrar8
Originally Posted by j671
racist clown..hope he talks trash about the wrong person so they can kill this fool....so i can piss on his grave.
mad pacquiao nuthugger
Manglor wrote:![]()
Floyd has ducked and dodged the BEST fighters most of his career. That's fact, he admits it openly saying that there are many guys more dangerous then the paychecks they would give him so he won't fight them. Even the best he has fought came with stipulations. Corrales was forced to go so low in weight he was DEAD before the bell rang to start the fight. I knew I shouldve have came in here..
LOL. I knew I shouldnt have come in here...
Chico and PBF were both undefeated 130 lbers when they matched up. How was Chico "forced" to 130, when he was campaigning at that weight? If you really did watch boxing, you would know that Chico was the favorite to win that bout.
Manglor wrote:![]()
Floyd has ducked and dodged the BEST fighters most of his career. That's fact, he admits it openly saying that there are many guys more dangerous then the paychecks they would give him so he won't fight them. Even the best he has fought came with stipulations. Corrales was forced to go so low in weight he was DEAD before the bell rang to start the fight. I knew I shouldve have came in here..
LOL. I knew I shouldnt have come in here...
Chico and PBF were both undefeated 130 lbers when they matched up. How was Chico "forced" to 130, when he was campaigning at that weight? If you really did watch boxing, you would know that Chico was the favorite to win that bout.
That's the point...he's gotta stay relevant to Manny Pacquiao and his supporters and the media even if there is no fight between the two right now. If Pacquiao starts taking all these other fights and Floyd just goes about his business, eventually the demand for the fight between them will go down. But as long as he keeps talkin #!+@ that fight is the only fight that matters in the boxing world right now. It makes fans put pressure on both of them to just fight already. Even Pacquiao fans don't want to see no Margarito vs. Pacquiao fight, they wanna see him fight Floyd and the more #!+@ Floyd talks the MORE they wanna see that fight. When it does happen (and I don't believe it's far off) it'll be the biggest grossing fight in boxing history just watch.Originally Posted by ualreadyknow23
Here's my gripe about it. Dude has been in hibernation for how long, never responded back from Manny's camp agreeing to fight in Floyd's terms.
Now we have to see this lame fight between Pacquiao and Margarito and ALL OF A SUDDEN this guy's face shows up and starts taking racial jabs. Now I can understand if it was done to promote a fight....BUT WHAT FIGHT IS THERE TO PROMOTE?
OH WAIT, YOU MEAN THE ONE ON NEVUARY 31, 2012....same day as Dr. Dre's Detox right?![]()
It only boils down to one thing...he's an attention %@%*! and we're only adding fuel to the fire.![]()
That's the point...he's gotta stay relevant to Manny Pacquiao and his supporters and the media even if there is no fight between the two right now. If Pacquiao starts taking all these other fights and Floyd just goes about his business, eventually the demand for the fight between them will go down. But as long as he keeps talkin #!+@ that fight is the only fight that matters in the boxing world right now. It makes fans put pressure on both of them to just fight already. Even Pacquiao fans don't want to see no Margarito vs. Pacquiao fight, they wanna see him fight Floyd and the more #!+@ Floyd talks the MORE they wanna see that fight. When it does happen (and I don't believe it's far off) it'll be the biggest grossing fight in boxing history just watch.Originally Posted by ualreadyknow23
Here's my gripe about it. Dude has been in hibernation for how long, never responded back from Manny's camp agreeing to fight in Floyd's terms.
Now we have to see this lame fight between Pacquiao and Margarito and ALL OF A SUDDEN this guy's face shows up and starts taking racial jabs. Now I can understand if it was done to promote a fight....BUT WHAT FIGHT IS THERE TO PROMOTE?
OH WAIT, YOU MEAN THE ONE ON NEVUARY 31, 2012....same day as Dr. Dre's Detox right?![]()
It only boils down to one thing...he's an attention %@%*! and we're only adding fuel to the fire.![]()
Originally Posted by j671
say what you want..i dont give a *+@#.i liked both fighters.i was talking about racist comments, not duckin, steroids....blah blah blah...its fine with me for fighters to diss, but choose words wisely....pac aint talking trash about , HOW CAN I NOT BEAT FLYOD, HIS LIPS ARE BIG ENOUGH TO HIT WHILE HES BLOCKIN, OR WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PIZZA AND A BLACK MAN....A PIZZA CAN FEED A FAMILY OF FOUR....hows that not offensive to black folks..****ttt , id be pissed....grow the $+%@ up..OH YAH THIS IS NT, WE CAN MAKE FUN OF ALL OTHER RACES, BUT IF THEY BLACK , ITS A NO NO........Originally Posted by sbrar8
Originally Posted by j671
racist clown..hope he talks trash about the wrong person so they can kill this fool....so i can piss on his grave.
mad pacquiao nuthugger
Originally Posted by j671
say what you want..i dont give a *+@#.i liked both fighters.i was talking about racist comments, not duckin, steroids....blah blah blah...its fine with me for fighters to diss, but choose words wisely....pac aint talking trash about , HOW CAN I NOT BEAT FLYOD, HIS LIPS ARE BIG ENOUGH TO HIT WHILE HES BLOCKIN, OR WHATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PIZZA AND A BLACK MAN....A PIZZA CAN FEED A FAMILY OF FOUR....hows that not offensive to black folks..****ttt , id be pissed....grow the $+%@ up..OH YAH THIS IS NT, WE CAN MAKE FUN OF ALL OTHER RACES, BUT IF THEY BLACK , ITS A NO NO........Originally Posted by sbrar8
Originally Posted by j671
racist clown..hope he talks trash about the wrong person so they can kill this fool....so i can piss on his grave.
mad pacquiao nuthugger