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Originally Posted by Wr
people more interested in fireworks shows than the actual source of the fire...
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Originally Posted by Wr
people more interested in fireworks shows than the actual source of the fire...
Originally Posted by NikeTalker23
I'm sorry but unless you yourself prove everything that science has accepted as how the universe was created, you are believing it based on faith. FAITH.
Well considering I've been learning about science for the last 8 years of my life and have taken everything from quantum mechanics to immunology to physical chemistry. I've either witnessed the proof or actually tested the theories or hypotheses myself. Soooooooo NOPE no FAITH necessary, really. NO faith at all.Originally Posted by NikeTalker23
I'm sorry but unless you yourself prove everything that science has accepted as how the universe was created, you are believing it based on faith. FAITH.
Originally Posted by NikeTalker23
I'm sorry but unless you yourself prove everything that science has accepted as how the universe was created, you are believing it based on faith. FAITH.
Science is just as faith based as every other human endeavor.Originally Posted by blackxme
Originally Posted by NikeTalker23
I'm sorry but unless you yourself prove everything that science has accepted as how the universe was created, you are believing it based on faith. FAITH.
Science hasn't even come to a conclusion of how the universe has been created, the "Big Bang Theory" is theory that is full of flaws. All it says is that the universe expanded from an infinitely dense point. It doesn't tell us why or how. Nothing in science is faith based, you either have sound evidence to back up an idea/theory or you don't.
Originally Posted by goldenchild9
Science is just as faith based as every other human endeavor.Originally Posted by blackxme
Originally Posted by NikeTalker23
I'm sorry but unless you yourself prove everything that science has accepted as how the universe was created, you are believing it based on faith. FAITH.
Science hasn't even come to a conclusion of how the universe has been created, the "Big Bang Theory" is theory that is full of flaws. All it says is that the universe expanded from an infinitely dense point. It doesn't tell us why or how. Nothing in science is faith based, you either have sound evidence to back up an idea/theory or you don't.
It is just another manifestation of the most elemental form of human faith; the confidence of what we coin "nature" and in man's ability to understand it.
Science and religion have the equal potentiality to be innocuous or hazardous...because they are essentially one in the same.
Originally Posted by goldenchild9
Science is a religion.
Originally Posted by kangaroobombs
Originally Posted by NikeTalker23
I'm sorry but unless you yourself prove everything that science has accepted as how the universe was created, you are believing it based on faith. FAITH.
You sound like an idiot right now.
Yes it is.Originally Posted by PleasurePhD
Originally Posted by goldenchild9
Science is a religion.
No, it is not.
^^ See how great my 4 word post was? Really contributes to the DISCUSSION board, doesn't it.
And, you know what, fine FINE you guys wanna call it a religion?
FINE, then ALLLLLLLL of you who talk smack about it, guess what? You are part of this bat $#!% crazy religion called science. You know how? You are living in the 21st century taking advantage of ALL that science has offered you. From even before you were born the "science religion" has been used for your benefit.
Sonograms when you were in mom's tummy, epidural shot for her when giving birth to you, pasteurization of your baby foods, vaccinations when you were growing up, clothes on your back, clean running water, the car you drive, the computer you use, the wireless internet you are on, the medicine which will save your life later when you're old and get a heart attack the inevitable day science discovers the origins of the universe.
You might think it takes blind faith, but if you look all around you, and at yourself, YOU are living proof of and validation of it's hypotheses and theories.
My reaction exactlyOriginally Posted by blackxme
Pretty much what I wanted to say.Originally Posted by PleasurePhD
So wrong. So so wrong.Originally Posted by NikeTalker23
Science might as well be a religion. To believe the whole universe expanding from nothing is just as hard to believe as there being one being responsible for creating everything. Scientists are just like priests. They both claim to know the origin of the universe. 99% of population will believe one or the other and that same 99% will nether be able to prove or disprove their theory themselves. They just take the scientist's and priets' word for it.&Science as a BODY OF KNOWLEDGE which is always being built upon, improved, tested, etc... is NOT the same as an organization in which one or a few individuals ideas/thought that are considered as an ABSOLUTE are used to manipulate people into following and acting in certain ways which are either morally wrong or right. Science doesn't force you to do anything. It's just there as knowledge. It CAN NOT manipulate or cause malice. Unlike religion which can and has been used to manipulate and cause people to act in malicious ways. Don't get me wrong science information and knowledge can be used TO manipulate or be used IN malicious ways, but this is due to people desiring to use the information in these ways (sometimes even due to religion). But the information itself doesn't contain any pernicious base.
People act like science is a thing, an entity, a book or writings, or a group of people. When will they understand that SCIENCE is just a body of knowledge built upon by MANY different fields of study which all compliment each other. This is why it is NOT a religion and CAN NOT be compared to a religion. It doesn't take blind faith and it is not an absolute. It takes evidence and testing. And NO true scientist would EVER claim to know the origins of the universe. It is currently untestable and there for that claim can not be scientifically made as a theory or even a hypothesis, at this point. In time though. In time. The Higgs discovery would be a step in the right direction.
Anyway.
This will mean nothing to believers. Even if the new news on Wednesday is that they truly have a "new discovery" (by definition of discovery when it comes to this field of physics, with sufficient confidence) of the Higgs.
First off most people don't even know what that would mean.
Secondly, believers would come up with something out of either *** to refute it or show it's inability to still fully answer the question of the beginning, ignoring how it would completely crush all that is believed in the organized religions.
Lastly, most believers would just be on that Prometheus tip, not even giving a damb and still believing.
I can't believe that people actually believe science is a religion.
Originally Posted by goldenchild9
1. Science is just as faith based as every other human endeavor.Originally Posted by blackxme
Originally Posted by NikeTalker23
I'm sorry but unless you yourself prove everything that science has accepted as how the universe was created, you are believing it based on faith. FAITH.
Science hasn't even come to a conclusion of how the universe has been created, the "Big Bang Theory" is theory that is full of flaws. All it says is that the universe expanded from an infinitely dense point. It doesn't tell us why or how. Nothing in science is faith based, you either have sound evidence to back up an idea/theory or you don't.
2. It is just another manifestation of the most elemental form of human faith; the confidence of what we coin "nature" and in man's ability to understand it.
3. Science and religion have the equal potentiality to be innocuous or hazardous...because they are essentially one in the same.
Originally Posted by goldenchild9
Science is a religion.
Originally Posted by PleasurePhD
Originally Posted by goldenchild9
1. Science is just as faith based as every other human endeavor.Originally Posted by blackxme
Science hasn't even come to a conclusion of how the universe has been created, the "Big Bang Theory" is theory that is full of flaws. All it says is that the universe expanded from an infinitely dense point. It doesn't tell us why or how. Nothing in science is faith based, you either have sound evidence to back up an idea/theory or you don't.
2. It is just another manifestation of the most elemental form of human faith; the confidence of what we coin "nature" and in man's ability to understand it.
3. Science and religion have the equal potentiality to be innocuous or hazardous...because they are essentially one in the same.
1. No it's not
2. No it's not. The endeavor of trying to understand something doesn't automatically push you towards having faith or needing to have faith in something else to understand it. That's a ridiculous statement.
3. No it doesn't and no they aren't. Read my other earlier posts as to why this is.
No, it's not.Originally Posted by goldenchild9
Yes it is.Originally Posted by PleasurePhD
Originally Posted by goldenchild9
Science is a religion.
No, it is not.
^^ See how great my 4 word post was? Really contributes to the DISCUSSION board, doesn't it.
And, you know what, fine FINE you guys wanna call it a religion?
FINE, then ALLLLLLLL of you who talk smack about it, guess what? You are part of this bat $#!% crazy religion called science. You know how? You are living in the 21st century taking advantage of ALL that science has offered you. From even before you were born the "science religion" has been used for your benefit.
Sonograms when you were in mom's tummy, epidural shot for her when giving birth to you, pasteurization of your baby foods, vaccinations when you were growing up, clothes on your back, clean running water, the car you drive, the computer you use, the wireless internet you are on, the medicine which will save your life later when you're old and get a heart attack the inevitable day science discovers the origins of the universe.
You might think it takes blind faith, but if you look all around you, and at yourself, YOU are living proof of and validation of it's hypotheses and theories.
The same system of experientially based hypotheses, reflection and imaginative theory is found in both science and religion.
You love bragging about you level of education but your propensity to jump to unsubstantiated conclusions about my personal beliefs and life experiences says more about the true level of your acuity than any of your academic braggadocio.
Originally Posted by goldenchild9
Science is a religion.
Originally Posted by VeintiSiete