School Me On This Russia/Ukraine Kerfuffle

[mr jordan04]

What's the over/under on how much we end up spending on Ukraine??

Add another Billi

US pledges $1 billion in rockets, other arms for Ukraine

The Biden administration announced another $1 billion in new military aid for Ukraine on Monday, pledging what will be the biggest yet delivery of rockets, ammunition and other arms straight from Dept. of Defense stocks for Ukrainian forces.

www.foxla.com

 

[heelsandeers]

Now do how much the US has spent on hypothetical wars with Russia

 

[slaughterx]

Very little when you think about how all these weapons have been paid for and have just been sitting around waiting to be used. At the end of the day the defense dept is gonna spend billions on weapons and development regardless if we use them or not. Basically the weapons are free you just pay shipping and handling! Lol

 

[biggie62]

Very little when you think about how all these weapons have been paid for and have just been sitting around waiting to be used. At the end of the day the defense dept is gonna spend billions on weapons and development regardless if we use them or not. Basically the weapons are free you just pay shipping and handling! Lol

This is sort of the way I’d look at it. Some of these weapons are outdated per US tech as the new gen stuff would be coming out. The Us isn’t sending the latest and greatest stuff out there.

 

[fluid hips]

I remember the US sent weapons to Afghanistan in the 80s to "help" against the soviets. We all know how that turned out...

 

[fargin]

Afghans kicked their asses.

In nine years Afghans killed a third of what Ukrainians have in six months. So keep the arms coming!

 

[heelsandeers]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2022/russia-fsb-intelligence-ukraine-war/

"In the final days before the invasion of Ukraine, Russia’s security service began sending cryptic instructions to informants in Kyiv. Pack up and get out of the capital, the Kremlin collaborators were told, but leave behind the keys to your homes.

The directions came from senior officers in a unit of Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) with a prosaic name — the Department of Operational Information — but an ominous assignment: ensure the decapitation of the Ukrainian government and oversee the installation of a pro-Russian regime.

The messages were a measure of the confidence in that audacious plan. So certain were FSB operatives that they would soon control the levers of power in Kyiv, according to Ukrainian and Western security officials, that they spent the waning days before the war arranging safe houses or accommodations in informants’ apartments and other locations for the planned influx of personnel."

 

[John Wick]

Another 3 billion for Ukraine

US to send $3 billion in aid to Ukraine as war hits 6 months

U.S. officials say that as Russia’s war on Ukraine drags on, U.S. security assistance is shifting to a longer-term campaign that will likely keep more American military troops in Europe into the future.

apnews.com

Looks like we in for the long haul

 

[Extrait de Minimalisme]

When Putin gone drop the nuke? Considering he’s dying and obvs heartless, what’s there to lose?

 

[jape]

When Putin gone drop the nuke? Considering he’s dying and obvs heartless, what’s there to lose?

Literally everything

 

[fargin]

When Putin gone drop the nuke? Considering he’s dying and obvs heartless, what’s there to lose?

About fifteen of these.

 

[heelsandeers]

Ukrainian Nuke Plant Near Fighting Cut Off From Power Grid

Ukrainians are once again anxious about the fate of a nuclear power plant in a land that was home to the world’s worst atomic accident in 1986 at Chernobyl.

www.huffpost.com

 

[fargin]

Cautious optimism on the numbers coming out of the Kherson counter-offensive.

 

[wballz]

Another 3 billion for Ukraine

US to send $3 billion in aid to Ukraine as war hits 6 months

U.S. officials say that as Russia’s war on Ukraine drags on, U.S. security assistance is shifting to a longer-term campaign that will likely keep more American military troops in Europe into the future.

apnews.com

Looks like we in for the long haul

Small price to pay to maintain the USD as the world's reserve currency.

 

[gry60]

The US is not the only country contributing to the war effort in Ukraine.

Russia-Ukraine updates: Germany pledges €200 million in new aid — report | DW | 04.09.2022

The new financial aid package is aimed at assisting programs for internally displaced people. Ukraine's president has warned that Russia is waging an energy war on Europe. DW rounds up the latest.

www.dw.com

Which countries are sending military aid to Ukraine?

In the Russian-Ukraine war, many countries including neutral non-aligned Sweden have started to send military aid.

www.aljazeera.com

Russia is all in on making central/western Europe suffer this winter:

Nuclear plant loses power line as Moscow, West energy row escalates

A critical nuclear power plant in Ukraine again lost external power, international energy officials said on Saturday, heightening concerns as the energy battle between Moscow and the West ramped up in recent days amid the ongoing war.

www.reuters.com

EU nations announce measures to curb soaring energy prices

Several EU nations announce emergency plans to combat skyrocketing energy prices in the wake of Russia’s war in Ukraine.

www.aljazeera.com

None of this looks good...

 

[trynafeelmink]

this what we paying billions for while people don't have clean water in the "greatest country on earth"

 

[shogun]

So they took money from the clean water fund? Messed up.

 

[sneeker]

Afghans kicked their asses.

In nine years Afghans killed a third of what Ukrainians have in six months. So keep the arms coming!

you meant taliban.

 

[gry60]

this what we paying billions for while people don't have clean water in the "greatest country on earth"

We could also spend some of that money on civic education, so that folks could have a better understanding of the powers and responsibilities of the federal and state governments.

 

[slaughterx]

The Ukraine government actually quoted King Push? Wooooooooooow.

 

[heelsandeers]

We could also spend some of that money on civic education, so that folks could have a better understanding of the powers and responsibilities of the federal and state governments.

While depressing that we would see this in 2022 in the US, I don't see how anyone is surprised this would happen in MS and Jackson of all places

I guarantee you that MS has provided plenty of assistance to other areas of the state, probably in much greater per capita amounts

 

[heelsandeers]

They openly talked up the southern offensive for months and it looks like they were planning as big of an offensive in the Kharkiv area

The Russians moved a lot of their better units south not wanting to lose the only state capital (Kherson) that they have taken in the war. They will probably lose it anyway

 

[gry60]

They openly talked up the southern offensive for months and it looks like they were planning as big of an offensive in the Kharkiv area

The Russians moved a lot of their better units south not wanting to lose the only state capital (Kherson) that they have taken in the war. They will probably lose it anyway

Meanwhile, the new UK PM announced that she plans to cap the amount British households will spend on energy to 2500 GBP/year for the next two years. If other European countries follow suit with similar plans, that can dampen the impact of Russia cutting off energy supply to its western customers.

 

[ii flash ii]

Any updated map on what Russia has taken over?

 

[heelsandeers]

Any updated map on what Russia has taken over?

Can't vouch for how accurate but came across this account earlier