Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[iamdef]

Anybody else agree with Joe when Wale talked about Cole's bars about him and think that was a weak excuse? I don't have any homies that I will talk to on the phone and the next day hear him talkin' about me being bitter and basically fallin' off and think ish was sweet.

 

[iamdef]

 
Hip Hop is still relatively a new thing in DC. Go-Go ruled up until the 21st century. 

Never was real deep in who Wale was but have enjoyed his music since he came out but I gotta do some research on what "Go-Go" music is

 

[RIP sleazyy]

 
Hip Hop is still relatively a new thing in DC. Go-Go ruled up until the 21st century. 

Never was real deep in who Wale was but have enjoyed his music since he came out but I gotta do some research on what "Go-Go" music is

Start with the old and work your way up, a lot of the youngins out right now are garbage.

Chuck Brown and his crew, Rare Essence, TCB (Wale had them touring with him for a lil bit I think), Experience Unlimited, Backyard Band (Wale Pretty Girls is based on their track by the same name), UCB, Northeast Groovers are all good bands to start with.

A lot of cover songs cuz gogo really is club/house party music and it was just ****** remaking songs they loved then some original stuff (bounce beats, slow bounce, etc)

 

[VARNELL HILL]

It's really an acquired taste. If it's something that you weren't really exposed to from an early age...chances are you won't like it. 

 

[Deleted member 107398]

Sexy Lady - UCB
Welcome To DC - Mambo Sauce
Overnight Scenario - Reaction Band
Butterfly Whip Whop - CCB (?)


basically the four joints you gonna find with the most views if you go looking on youtube

 

[301216baller]

If wale sell outs the 9:30 its because howard students are there lol...and u forget shy glizzy dissed fat trel to get on

 

[iamdef]

Start with the old and work your way up, a lot of the youngins out right now are garbage.

Chuck Brown and his crew, Rare Essence, TCB (Wale had them touring with him for a lil bit I think), Experience Unlimited, Backyard Band (Wale Pretty Girls is based on their track by the same name), UCB, Northeast Groovers are all good bands to start with.

A lot of cover songs cuz gogo really is club/house party music and it was just ****** remaking songs they loved then some original stuff (bounce beats, slow bounce, etc)

Hopefully I remember to do this when I get home

Sexy Lady - UCB
Welcome To DC - Mambo Sauce
Overnight Scenario - Reaction Band
Butterfly Whip Whop - CCB (?)


basically the four joints you gonna find with the most views if you go looking on youtube

I'll be looking on Spotify first, haven't looked on YT for music in a millenia

 

[VARNELL HILL]

 
If wale sell outs the 9:30 its because howard students are there lol...and u forget shy glizzy dissed fat trel to get on

Wale could sell out 9:30 or The Fillmore in the summer time when all the Howard students go back home. I've seen it. Multiple times. He has plenty of fans here. 

I'm well aware of Shy Glizzy dissing Fat Trel. Not sure how that correlates with anything I said. 

 

[RIP sleazyy]

Trel wasted potential in human form. He was the one.

Still bump Freeze Me every day.

 

[301216baller]

A lot of heads didn't like how he left Studio43 and that whole clique behind, plus him dropping the "urrea" sound to go mainstream and adding Gaga on the radio version of Chillin to get a lil boost.

And then the whole "he not even really from DC" thing lol

Add in the salty aspect of the DMV and the rest is history.

I get the he's not really from DC thing but why would they be mad if he put lady gaga on the hook?..i remember when i first saw the video for chillin on mtv jams and realized it had lady gaga on the hook i thought for sure he was gonna blow up

 

[Deleted member 107398]

A lot of heads didn't like how he left Studio43 and that whole clique behind, plus him dropping the "urrea" sound to go mainstream and adding Gaga on the radio version of Chillin to get a lil boost.


And then the whole "he not even really from DC" thing lol


Add in the salty aspect of the DMV and the rest is history.

I get the he's not really from DC thing but why would they be mad if he put lady gaga on the hook?..i remember when i first saw the video for chillin on mtv jams and realized it had lady gaga on the hook i thought for sure he was gonna blow up

DC (DMV in general) is full of dusty hating people

 

[trynafeelmink]

honestly the only reason Wale is getting any flack at all about his "Sales" is because people figure he should be in the realm of Drake, Cole, Kendrick & there comparing him to that. Wale has proven countless times that he can make good music that can capture the average listener, i haven't heard the album but almost every review i saw not from some self proclaimed "music critic" has been positive. So i'm guessing there's atleast 1 or two songs that resonate with the people and will grow. this is no different from most of the new artist who don't sell many records at all and live off making hit singles & touring. Only difference is Wale has a deep catalog at this point.

So i don't understand how someone can say Wale is washed up or isn't getting support when he's basically going into the same strategy that most newer acts have gone too & they are praised for it.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Basically. He's being compared to his contemporaries.

The same way Carmelo Anthony's success will always be measured against Bron, Wade, etc. 

 

[RIP sleazyy]

****** was sayin he sold out cuz he went and got the white girl for his first real single and she straight bit MIA whole thing on the song. It was a lot of **** man it really wasn't warranted at all but I do like the OG version more.

[Video]

 

[ace rawstein]

today's episode was comedy!! the classic argument was hilarious both of them brought the laughs.

 

[301216baller]

ahhh I get it now..and word looking back she did bite MIA..i never really thought about that until now

 

[VARNELL HILL]

That single got backlash from everyone. It wasn't just DC.

It was a stark departure from the music he was making at the time. It just felt forced and unauthentic. To go from Mixtape About Nothing to having your first major debut single feature Lady Gaga...just didn't mix. It looked like the decision of some corporate suit with no footprints in the culture who said "hey...let's add Lady Gaga to this song. this'll work". 

 

[iamdef]

honestly the only reason Wale is getting any flack at all about his "Sales" is because people figure he should be in the realm of Drake, Cole, Kendrick & there comparing him to that. Wale has proven countless times that he can make good music that can capture the average listener, i haven't heard the album but almost every review i saw not from some self proclaimed "music critic" has been positive. So i'm guessing there's atleast 1 or two songs that resonate with the people and will grow. this is no different from most of the new artist who don't sell many records at all and live off making hit singles & touring. Only difference is Wale has a deep catalog at this point.

So i don't understand how someone can say Wale is washed up or isn't getting support when he's basically going into the same strategy that most newer acts have gone too & they are praised for it.

I've listened to it once and it's a good album but not to the level where I want to hear it over and over. May give it another listen because I remember I enjoyed it.

 

[tay1]

Like I said, I only watched the Logic and Wale video, and from those two videos I didn't see much of a problem. Y'all may no more about him but idc, I wasn't primarily focused on him. And he may be corny. He called himself corny.

From that video, Wale was definitely acting corny, whether you think the word is overused or not. The defensiveness. The I'm underrated and if somebody else made this song talk, the arrogance. All that. The part where he broke down his song was pure cringe.

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

His delivery is weak.

 

[trynafeelmink]

Like I said, I only watched the Logic and Wale video, and from those two videos I didn't see much of a problem. Y'all may no more about him but idc, I wasn't primarily focused on him. And he may be corny. He called himself corny.

From that video, Wale was definitely acting corny, whether you think the word is overused or not. The defensiveness. The I'm underrated and if somebody else made this song talk, the arrogance. All that. The part where he broke down his song was pure cringe.

Was it really tho? i think your forgetting the error of music that we're in right now. People got mad that Tory Lanez took a trap record and actually put bars to it. Focused storytelling rap isn't something that some of the newer generation fans understand or even wanna hear. Now we could say Cole/Kendrick make conceptually deep albums and they are given their credit, which is true but in this generation the amount of praise they get is based heavily upon there likeability.

take a project like Damn or TPAB, there's intricacies to these albums that your not gonna get if you haven't grown in a certain environment, or have certain knowledge on subjects. you can still like the music of course but your not really in tune with everything being said. What Wale was stating, is that those same kids who don't "get" or relate to a certain record will still bump it several times trying to understand or just front like it's amazing simply because thats the popular consensus of Kendrick nowadays. That same listener will then dismiss Wale's more introspective tracks or straight call them trash because it's him. I don't think it's corny to call people out on being **** riders.

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

When did the word cringe become so damn popular?

 

[iamdef]

Was it really tho? i think your forgetting the error of music that we're in right now. People got mad that Tory Lanez took a trap record and actually put bars to it. Focused storytelling rap isn't something that some of the newer generation fans understand or even wanna hear. Now we could say Cole/Kendrick make conceptually deep albums and they are given their credit, which is true but in this generation the amount of praise they get is based heavily upon there likeability.

take a project like Damn or TPAB, there's intricacies to these albums that your not gonna get if you haven't grown in a certain environment, or have certain knowledge on subjects. you can still like the music of course but your not really in tune with everything being said. What Wale was stating, is that those same kids who don't "get" or relate to a certain record will still bump it several times trying to understand or just front like it's amazing simply because thats the popular consensus of Kendrick nowadays. That same listener will then dismiss Wale's more introspective tracks or straight call them trash because it's him. I don't think it's corny to call people out on being **** riders.

Not cringe worthy but he made it much more dramatic than need be. Great bars but to act like likening coke to a woman was such a revolutionary concept has to be checked

 

[trynafeelmink]

Not cringe worthy but he made it much more dramatic than need be. Great bars but to act like likening coke to a woman was such a revolutionary concept has to be checked

thats pretty much his point tho, to a older hip-hop listener things like that may not be revolutionary. to this newer generation it is, & if the same song comes from any of the more liked rappers it probably gains a lot more praise even if the song isn't groundbreaking at all.

Not to mention that this VERY WELL have went over a lot of people's heads, we're are understating how short of an attention span casual rap fans have nowadays. There's fans of "rap" who want to hear the least rap possible on a track. so again to us that's just another one of those songs and there's nothing to examine. to a newer listener the concept might have flew directly over there head.

 

[iamdef]

IDK, then again I'm no longer a younger fan anymore after passing 25 a few years ago so idk how new that concept is. I mean I grew up with trap music and hearing about birds, bricks, yayo, white girl, snow, powder, bad b*****s, etc on thousands of tracks I'd be surprised if anybody between 16-21 would be amazed.

But if Uzi dropped a song like that yea we'd be impressed because that's not his lane to be deep, Wale making a song like that is expected so we less surprised.