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Ya'll gotta remember it's not just an age thing with R Kelly . He's making them have sex before they want to and physically/mentally abusing them .
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“Making a song with R. Kelly was a mistake. I didn’t value the accusers’ stories because they were black women,” Chance the Rapper told Cassius‘ Jamilah Lemieux. “I made a mistake.”
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/chance-the-rapper-r-kelly-mistake-775431/
Wait wait.“Making a song with R. Kelly was a mistake. I didn’t value the accusers’ stories because they were black women,” Chance the Rapper told Cassius‘ Jamilah Lemieux. “I made a mistake.”
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/chance-the-rapper-r-kelly-mistake-775431/
Verbal memorization.
He freestyles off top, repeats, keeps what works, probably gets the hook and choruses first recorded then works on the verses.
That he's done that with his entire catalog and songs hes written for others not to mention he's taught himself to play instruments in similar manner is what makes him a musical genius.
Honestly society didn't value the accusers because they're black. Look at people (even in this thread) who've either blamed them or valued R's reputation over their horrible experiences . It was said before but if these girls where white, he'd be gone years ago. I feel like he knows that too.
Appreciate the response...Seems like he has a good memory more than anything.
If you're considering him a musical genius, would you mention him amongst the likes of Prince, Marvin Gaye, etc.?
For as many hits as he's put out back in the day, he has also put out some absolute trash. Now, folks eat it up...and it's a testament to him being able to turn just about anything into a song, but man...there are some stinkers
Whoa. Didn't realize xtentacion beat the chick that bad.people will try to shame you into not liking his music like thats gonna lock him up
dumb *** ***** dont own his masters so he not getting no real money off me enjoying these classics
how much energy have we put into shaming people for still “rocking” with kellz talent vs. actually trying to change the consent laws or pointing the finger at the old powerful rich men who created these laws and continue to uphold them
this is bigger than nino brown
is this about tangibly getting him locked up or is it about a spectacle and subsequently “i have better morals than you” like it is with every case that has the easy rallying cry of something that deals with abuse
example
whens the last time yall actually checked on geneva and not just retweeted an article by some 30+ year old white woman who needs content....
a lot of people benefitting off of this climate with hidden intentions.
“Making a song with R. Kelly was a mistake. I didn’t value the accusers’ stories because they were black women,” Chance the Rapper told Cassius‘ Jamilah Lemieux. “I made a mistake.”
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/chance-the-rapper-r-kelly-mistake-775431/
It was said before but if these girls where white, he'd be gone years ago
and like i said Kobe says otherwise.
The false equivalence people come up with is wild.
Appreciate the response...Seems like he has a good memory more than anything.
If you're considering him a musical genius, would you mention him amongst the likes of Prince, Marvin Gaye, etc.?
For as many hits as he's put out back in the day, he has also put out some absolute trash. Now, folks eat it up...and it's a testament to him being able to turn just about anything into a song, but man...there are some stinkers
Should it be higher or lowered?This is a patriarchy
And in a patriarchy, to put it bluntly men make the rules. Men with that much power have access to a ton, and they will NEVER enact laws that stop them from, among other things snatching young girls.
The age of consent thing in the U.S. is such a joke. 18 is comically bad.
Should it be higher or lowered?
Consent age
The trash wasn't until later on when he got desperate and tried to stay hot or reinvent himself. His first 4-5 albums is one of the best runs in music history. Then to think about all the other artists he wrote songs or full albums for.
Chance said he didn't value the accusers stories because they were black women? Wow, that's pretty ****in wild. Black women lie or black women are money hungry? What is he trying to say? He was trying to earn some points and apologize for **** he should have been quiet about and ended up doing more damage to his name. I hope he gets dragged for this.
Should it be higher or lowered?
Consent age
it should be 18 across the board and anyone under 18 it should be automatically legally wrong for someone older than a 4-5 year gap to fw someone who is 17. and 4-5 years is beimg generous but thats also potentially a college senior/super senior and a freshman.
I feel like Chance was tryna do the thing in which people try to get brownie points for admitting wrong behavior and now recognizing that it was wrong behavior to appeal to a certain group
Next time we hear from Chance, it's gonna be about him and how he had to recognize his Toxic Masculinity. Guaranteed.
See I think 18 is just too low. Its a bit patronizing IMO like a lot of people are in HS or jusssttt finished HS at 18. You probably have friends that are 16, 17 years old. You're not far enough removed from that age sector at 18, I think.
You aren't even an adult at 18. You can't even buy a drink.
It should probably be around 20, 21 if we're being honest. There's no reason for any 20, 21 year old to be dating a teenager and vice versa.
Dude moves like a dirty politician that's hiding something. Always tryna be extra PC and ends up putting his foot in his mouth like he did with the Kanye/Trump thing.The trash wasn't until later on when he got desperate and tried to stay hot or reinvent himself. His first 4-5 albums is one of the best runs in music history. Then to think about all the other artists he wrote songs or full albums for.
Chance said he didn't value the accusers stories because they were black women? Wow, that's pretty ****in wild. Black women lie or black women are money hungry? What is he trying to say? He was trying to earn some points and apologize for **** he should have been quiet about and ended up doing more damage to his name. I hope he gets dragged for this.
You’re right in that 18 is just some random age that we’re used to but I wouldn’t co-sign a 20 year old getting locked up for ****ing an 18 year old. Thats a junior and a freshman in college. This type of **** happens all the time and honestly I notice most long term married couples are like 2-3 years apart. My peoples had a scenario like that where one was a junior and one was a freshman.
I think whats more important than arbitrary ages that *****s just picked is the age gaps and like I said, it shouldn’t surpass 4-5 and thats generous.
Those are called Romeo and Juliet laws. A lot of states have them because rightfully legislators felt a 19-year-old having sex with a 17-year-old should not be treated the same as a 30-year old that has sex with a 14-year-old.You’re right in that 18 is just some random age that we’re used to but I wouldn’t co-sign a 20 year old getting locked up for ****ing an 18 year old. Thats a junior and a freshman in college. This type of **** happens all the time and honestly I notice most long term married couples are like 2-3 years apart. My peoples had a scenario like that where one was a junior and one was a freshman.
I think whats more important than arbitrary ages that *****s just picked is the age gaps and like I said, it shouldn’t surpass 4-5 and thats generous.