President to propose free community college on Friday

Most people I know take out loans and have part time jobs, and work full time in the summer or on breaks. Don't give me that "they're too expensive" BS. If you're highly motivated enough, have a set plan and go after a degree that can get you a profitable career, while also earning what you can while in enrolled, you can come out just fine. If you come out with a degree in fine art, liberals arts, music etc, don't get mad when you aren't earning what you wished you were.   not saying debt free, but you won't be an indentured servant your whole life

This is only opposition i can agree with. Degree selection is key.
 
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I guess you don't know anybody whose parents made too much money so they didn't qualify for grants but they didn't make enough to set aside minimum 7K a year without struggling? Financial aid solely looks at how much you make but doesn't account for expenses

I guess you don't know anybody whose parents made too much money so they don't qualify for grants but their parents refuse to help them with school?

Yeah .. this bill is surely for people who can afford to pay tuition and just choose not to :rolleyes


I do know families like that, plenty. Mine was one of them.


What did I do? I paid my own way through college, hell I'm still paying.


That's life, taking accountability for yourself.
 
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Now you just trolling bruh.

You got it.


Why bro? Why is it that people can't make sacrifices?


Why do folks NEED brand new cars? Why can't they push an old civic they bought for cash?


You're being completely irrational.


Why do people NEED to cop jordans and buy new clothes every season?

Why do people NEED the new iPhone?


Why is making sacrifices to better yourself looked down upon? Why do I need to come out of pocket for others when they won't do it for themselves?


Answer me instead of making deflective statements. Make a valid rebuttal or just don't address me. You sound type corny with these responses.
 
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Why bro? Why is it that people can't make sacrifices?


Why do folks NEED brand new cars? Why can't they push an old civic they bought for cash?


You're being completely irrational.


Why do people NEED to cop jordans and buy new clothes every season?

Why do people NEED the new iPhone?


Why is making sacrifices to better yourself looked down upon? Why do I need to come out of pocket for others when they won't do it for themselves?

How do you seem to have everyone's situation understood so clearly? Stop generalizing.
 
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I guess you don't know anybody whose parents made too much money so they didn't qualify for grants but they didn't make enough to set aside minimum 7K a year without struggling? Financial aid solely looks at how much you make but doesn't account for expenses

I guess you don't know anybody whose parents made too much money so they don't qualify for grants but their parents refuse to help them with school?

Yeah .. this bill is surely for people who can afford to pay tuition and just choose not to :rolleyes


I do know families like that, plenty. Mine was one of them.


What did I do? I paid my own way through college, hell I'm still paying.


That's life, taking accountability for yourself.

Good for you. If there's a way for my children to avoid your situation I'm all for it. I'm not one of those people who think right after High School graduation all of a sudden a financial responsibility like this should be placed on a teenager. I'm not volunteering my children to struggle, sorry that's not life :lol Going from free lunch to you owe 10K a year, yeah right .. that's a great way to start your adult life.
 
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That simple huh?

Yes that simple.


Buy a used car for ~3K, don't buy designer wear, scale back on the partying and socializing, and live spartan like for a few years.


Not the end of the ******* world.


But naw, ****** need to put on for the IG. They need to take pictures of new sneakers and fancy food to fit in.


Kids these days man.


I'm all for helping out the disadvantaged, but the folks ya'll apologizing for are not disadvantaged, they're just ******* selfish. Not willing to make sacrifices for themselves but are willing to let others sacrifice for them.
 
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Why bro? Why is it that people can't make sacrifices?


Why do folks NEED brand new cars? Why can't they push an old civic they bought for cash?


You're being completely irrational.


Why do people NEED to cop jordans and buy new clothes every season?

Why do people NEED the new iPhone?


Why is making sacrifices to better yourself looked down upon? Why do I need to come out of pocket for others when they won't do it for themselves?

How do you seem to have everyone's situation understood so clearly? Stop generalizing.

Those must be the only options out there, new whips and Js. I'm out, there's nothing sensible here. I keep forgetting NT arguments are a waste of time.

Yes only people who want to stunt for Instagram exist in that spectrum, you got it man.
 
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Why bro? Why is it that people can't make sacrifices?


Why do folks NEED brand new cars? Why can't they push an old civic they bought for cash?


You're being completely irrational.


Why do people NEED to cop jordans and buy new clothes every season?

Why do people NEED the new iPhone?


Why is making sacrifices to better yourself looked down upon? Why do I need to come out of pocket for others when they won't do it for themselves?
How do you seem to have everyone's situation understood so clearly? Stop generalizing.
Those must be the only options out there, new whips and Js. I'm out, there's nothing sensible here. I keep forgetting NT arguments are a waste of time.
new whips and Js are just an example he brought up

there are always things that people could go without

college is advertised as "the best years of your life", but some times people have to sacrifice all the partying and pointless spending and suck it up for a few years in order to do whats best for their futures

its not ideal, but its the world that we live in
 
How do you seem to have everyone's situation understood so clearly? Stop generalizing.


Then what's the excuse bro? Please tell me, because if you make enough not to qualify for pell grants then your money is going somewhere.


Where?
 
Just say thank you for that uniform my taxes paid for.
Implying military don't pay taxes. What an uneducated view. 

Maybe people like you really do need that free CC from Obama. 
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Those must be the only options out there, new whips and Js. I'm out, there's nothing sensible here. I keep forgetting NT arguments are a waste of time.

Yes only people who want to stunt for Instagram exist in that spectrum, you got it man.


Then WHERE is the money going b?


Where? Tell me bruh.


Tell me a rational answer to that question.


What extraneous circumstances does a person who doesn't qualify for government grants because their household makes too much money face other than not being willing to sacrifice certain luxuries?


Have kids? Not my fault. Have other debt? Not my fault.


So what? What else? Other than a medical situation I can't think of a valid pass for these folks who make enough money.

But not everyone is in a medical situation, so that's obviously not a logical explanation.


What else bro?
 
Then what's the excuse bro? Please tell me, because if you make enough not to qualify for pell grants then your money is going somewhere.


Where?

My mom makes too much money according to the school. Only 40K. Next question?
 
How do you seem to have everyone's situation understood so clearly? Stop generalizing.


Then what's the excuse bro? Please tell me, because if you make enough not to qualify for pell grants then your money is going somewhere.


Where?

What do you mean .. "you don't qualify" unless your parents are dead or you're emancipated it's your parents who don't qualify. At 18, what do you suggest? "Hey Dad don't pay the mortgage this month because SneakerHeaten said if you don't qualify for a Pell grant your money is going elsewhere"

:lol

"Hey mom and dad you guys have a combined income higher than 24K, your money is going elsewhere"

:lol
 
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How do you seem to have everyone's situation understood so clearly? Stop generalizing.


Then what's the excuse bro? Please tell me, because if you make enough not to qualify for pell grants then your money is going somewhere.


Where?

I'm confused, every family making over 20k has cash to spare? Let's not take into factor anything else like the location, col or amount of family members or anything . Either way nothing to gain here, proceed, best of luck to you all.
 
new whips and Js are just an example he brought up

there are always things that people could go without

college is advertised as "the best years of your life", but some times people have to sacrifice all the partying and pointless spending and suck it up for a few years in order to do whats best for their futures

its not ideal, but its the world that we live in


exactly bro.


one of my boys mantras was "I hate rich ****** god damn it". Dude came up from a nice middle class LI family, but it wasn't like they had long money, he had to make his own way. This kid had to push loud just to pay for books, clothes, and basic necessities. Didn't have a car had to hoof it or take the light rail to class.


But the dude loved his college experience. He understood a lot of folks had that mommy and daddy money but he did what he had to do to survive and hell he thrived.


Some other folks work through their college years, I know plenty of those types too.


A lot of sacrifice but generally everyone is happier for it.


Some weekends they had enough cash to eat steak and pop bottles, other weekends it was ramen noodles. **** it....


A lot didn't even have cars either.


Nobody is entitled to anything man. I'm all for helping out the disadvantaged but sometimes people who don't come from impoverished backgrounds need to struggle as well, it builds character.


Now the same dude just got accepted to NYU and has a great job. Dude is loving life and just bought a new whip. AND NOBODY HELPED HIM BUT HIM. PROUD OF MY *****.
 
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What do you mean .. "you don't qualify" unless your parents are dead or you're emancipated it's your parents who don't qualify. At 18, what do you suggest? "Hey Dad don't pay the mortgage this month because SneakerHeaten said if you don't qualify for a Pell grant your money is going elsewhere"

:lol

"Hey mom and dad you guys have a combined income higher than 24K, your money is going elsewhere"

:lol


Is it my fault that ****** parents got themselves into mortgages they can't pay?

Really?


Wow...


Entire paycheck going into the mortgage payment with nothing else, and we wonder why ****** lost their houses. :lol


Not my job to teach folks to be more fiscally responsible. Don't get mortgages you can't pay.
 
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Oh the it worked for me so it should work for everyone else argument huh? I thought NT was passed this.
 
What do you mean .. "you don't qualify" unless your parents are dead or you're emancipated it's your parents who don't qualify. At 18, what do you suggest? "Hey Dad don't pay the mortgage this month because SneakerHeaten said if you don't qualify for a Pell grant your money is going elsewhere"

:lol

"Hey mom and dad you guys have a combined income higher than 24K, your money is going elsewhere"

:lol


Is it my fault that ****** parents got themselves into mortgages they can't pay?

Really?


Wow...


Entire paycheck going into the mortgage payment with nothing else, and we wonder why ****** lost their houses. :lol


Not my job to teach folks to be more fiscally responsible. Don't get mortgages you can't pay.

What you gathered from that is a entire paycheck goes to a mortgage? Wow


I got a degree already, thanks ;)


Then people like you are proof college doesn't make you smarter as I previously stated ITT.

:lol reported, no more letting these dudes pretend like they take the high road.

Dude mad I helped finance his little bootcamp training :lol I have no problem paying it forward.
 
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