devildog1776
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Poland was next in line to default... The bankers didn't want as much resistence as they had with Greece.... The world is a game with no rules... Nwo is in full effect...
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Originally Posted by finnns2003
Think Russia had anything to do with it?
Go @++@ yourself aight.Originally Posted by Sputnik
poland sucks anyways. rip to the people though
Originally Posted by devildog1776
Poland was next in line to default... The bankers didn't want as much resistence as they had with Greece.... The world is a game with no rules... Nwo is in full effect...
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy.Originally Posted by Sputnik
Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy.Originally Posted by Sputnik
Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
i rest my case.Originally Posted by kix4kix
Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy.Originally Posted by Sputnik
Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
Originally Posted by Sputnik
Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
Strawman argument much? I presented facts and you reply with essentially nothing? Fact: A democratic nation has never been at war with another Democratic nation. Aside from that fact Russian politics are still old school. Real old school obviously if they still putting hits out on cats. But go ahead with the sarcasm: I am sure North Korea or China would be lovely places to live.Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
i rest my case.Originally Posted by kix4kix
Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy.Originally Posted by Sputnik
Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
Spoiler [+]i hope ur being sarcastic
I aint wikipedia to give u any facts so do ur own research...for ur own sake. I, unlike u have lived in both the USSR and the US and i acknowledge that both systems are imperfect. U (We) have been conditioned to think democracy=good while communism/socialism/ etc. = bad...so u quick to jump to conclusions. like "still putting hits out on cats." lolOriginally Posted by kix4kix
Strawman argument much? I presented facts and you reply with essentially nothing? Fact: A democratic nation has never been at war with another Democratic nation. Aside from that fact Russian politics are still old school. Real old school obviously if they still putting hits out on cats. But go ahead with the sarcasm: I am sure North Korea or China would be lovely places to live.Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
i rest my case.Originally Posted by kix4kix
Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy.Originally Posted by Sputnik
Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
Spoiler [+]i hope ur being sarcastic
? bruh where did I state the U.S. is a guilt free nation? Or that we have never done our dirt. My original point (and one you have yet to even refute) is that Russia being a "bad guy" is a conditioned belief, when in fact it is absolutely true. Ever heard of the Orange Revolution in Ukraine? They still don't play over there. But keep coming back with things that have nothing to do with what I am saying.Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
I aint wikipedia to give u any facts so do ur own research...for ur own sake. I, unlike u have lived in both the USSR and the US and i acknowledge that both systems are imperfect. U (We) have been conditioned to think democracy=good while communism/socialism/ etc. = bad...so u quick to jump to conclusions. like "still putting hits out on cats." lolOriginally Posted by kix4kix
Strawman argument much? I presented facts and you reply with essentially nothing? Fact: A democratic nation has never been at war with another Democratic nation. Aside from that fact Russian politics are still old school. Real old school obviously if they still putting hits out on cats. But go ahead with the sarcasm: I am sure North Korea or China would be lovely places to live.Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
i rest my case.Originally Posted by kix4kix
Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy.Originally Posted by Sputnik
Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
Spoiler [+]i hope ur being sarcastic
u want facts? look up how many unofficial wars/armed conflicts has the US participated in the 20th century? How many democratic governments (including Iran), dictatorships, regimes and governments in general, has the US helped to overthrow? Please do ur own research. Thats all im saying. i apologize if i sound condescending. peace.
why we arguing then? the thing that was bugging me initially was that dudes were quick to blame Russia when in fact it could be the US or Russia.Originally Posted by kix4kix
? bruh where did I state the U.S. is a guilt free nation? Or that we have never done our dirt. My original point (and one you have yet to even refute) is that Russia being a "bad guy" is a conditioned belief, when in fact it is absolutely true. Ever heard of the Orange Revolution in Ukraine? They still don't play over there. But keep coming back with things that have nothing to do with what I am saying.Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
I aint wikipedia to give u any facts so do ur own research...for ur own sake. I, unlike u have lived in both the USSR and the US and i acknowledge that both systems are imperfect. U (We) have been conditioned to think democracy=good while communism/socialism/ etc. = bad...so u quick to jump to conclusions. like "still putting hits out on cats." lolOriginally Posted by kix4kix
Strawman argument much? I presented facts and you reply with essentially nothing? Fact: A democratic nation has never been at war with another Democratic nation. Aside from that fact Russian politics are still old school. Real old school obviously if they still putting hits out on cats. But go ahead with the sarcasm: I am sure North Korea or China would be lovely places to live.Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
i rest my case.Originally Posted by kix4kix
Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy.Originally Posted by Sputnik
Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
Spoiler [+]i hope ur being sarcastic
u want facts? look up how many unofficial wars/armed conflicts has the US participated in the 20th century? How many democratic governments (including Iran), dictatorships, regimes and governments in general, has the US helped to overthrow? Please do ur own research. Thats all im saying. i apologize if i sound condescending. peace.
Mind you this isn't a Good Guy/bad guy thing, its an argument on facts, the U.S. is no angel, and neither are the Russians.
Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
why we arguing then? the thing that was bugging me initially was that dudes were quick to blame Russia when in fact it could be the US or Russia.Originally Posted by kix4kix
? bruh where did I state the U.S. is a guilt free nation? Or that we have never done our dirt. My original point (and one you have yet to even refute) is that Russia being a "bad guy" is a conditioned belief, when in fact it is absolutely true. Ever heard of the Orange Revolution in Ukraine? They still don't play over there. But keep coming back with things that have nothing to do with what I am saying.Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
I aint wikipedia to give u any facts so do ur own research...for ur own sake. I, unlike u have lived in both the USSR and the US and i acknowledge that both systems are imperfect. U (We) have been conditioned to think democracy=good while communism/socialism/ etc. = bad...so u quick to jump to conclusions. like "still putting hits out on cats." lolOriginally Posted by kix4kix
Strawman argument much? I presented facts and you reply with essentially nothing? Fact: A democratic nation has never been at war with another Democratic nation. Aside from that fact Russian politics are still old school. Real old school obviously if they still putting hits out on cats. But go ahead with the sarcasm: I am sure North Korea or China would be lovely places to live.Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
i rest my case.Originally Posted by kix4kix
Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy.Originally Posted by Sputnik
Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
Spoiler [+]i hope ur being sarcastic
u want facts? look up how many unofficial wars/armed conflicts has the US participated in the 20th century? How many democratic governments (including Iran), dictatorships, regimes and governments in general, has the US helped to overthrow? Please do ur own research. Thats all im saying. i apologize if i sound condescending. peace.
Mind you this isn't a Good Guy/bad guy thing, its an argument on facts, the U.S. is no angel, and neither are the Russians.
U firmly believe that Russia has historically been and still is the bad guy based on the very "facts" that u were conditioned with. What do u want me to refute?Originally Posted by kix4kix
Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
why we arguing then? the thing that was bugging me initially was that dudes were quick to blame Russia when in fact it could be the US or Russia.Originally Posted by kix4kix
? bruh where did I state the U.S. is a guilt free nation? Or that we have never done our dirt. My original point (and one you have yet to even refute) is that Russia being a "bad guy" is a conditioned belief, when in fact it is absolutely true. Ever heard of the Orange Revolution in Ukraine? They still don't play over there. But keep coming back with things that have nothing to do with what I am saying.Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
I aint wikipedia to give u any facts so do ur own research...for ur own sake. I, unlike u have lived in both the USSR and the US and i acknowledge that both systems are imperfect. U (We) have been conditioned to think democracy=good while communism/socialism/ etc. = bad...so u quick to jump to conclusions. like "still putting hits out on cats." lolOriginally Posted by kix4kix
Strawman argument much? I presented facts and you reply with essentially nothing? Fact: A democratic nation has never been at war with another Democratic nation. Aside from that fact Russian politics are still old school. Real old school obviously if they still putting hits out on cats. But go ahead with the sarcasm: I am sure North Korea or China would be lovely places to live.Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
i rest my case.Originally Posted by kix4kix
Originally Posted by TeamJordan79
good point but dudes aint gonna pay attention cause we all got conditioned to view Russia/USSR as the bad guy. Plus u got that avy.Originally Posted by Sputnik
Yes Russia killed many men in Katyn, but those men were captured Polish officals during a time of war. These people were not civilians, however they fought on Germany's side, who did kill civilians. There's worse +%!# going on in Iraq than this but you guys focus on Russia's mistakes while ignoring your own. There were what, 20k officals killed in Katyn. Well Russia lost 20,000,000 men in WWII.
Conditioned? No, communism was a very real threat to democracy the proof in the countries that are communist= war. What one can argue is the extent to which our government exhaggerated the threat of communism when in reality the U.S. has to see the downfall of Russia coming.
Spoiler [+]i hope ur being sarcastic
u want facts? look up how many unofficial wars/armed conflicts has the US participated in the 20th century? How many democratic governments (including Iran), dictatorships, regimes and governments in general, has the US helped to overthrow? Please do ur own research. Thats all im saying. i apologize if i sound condescending. peace.
Mind you this isn't a Good Guy/bad guy thing, its an argument on facts, the U.S. is no angel, and neither are the Russians.