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this shoe makes me wish i played basketball on a more consistent/ competitive basis. simply amazing. chaos or bust, must cop those.
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I believe they are hoh only.Originally Posted by hotbutter
chaos release...... limited to hoh only?? anyone willing to help a brother out during the holiday season?
I thought I heard HOH, and other footlockers will get them.Originally Posted by NotoriousMJ23
I believe they are hoh only.Originally Posted by hotbutter
chaos release...... limited to hoh only?? anyone willing to help a brother out during the holiday season?
15mm zoom bag on the heelThe HD had 12mm, Kobe IV 8mm, Flight Clubs has 14mm
Damn that's almost double of the IVs. The LeBron VII is 20mm of air.
I thought I heard HOH, and other footlockers will get them.Originally Posted by FrenchBlue23
I believe they are hoh only.Originally Posted by NotoriousMJ23
hotbutter wrote:
chaos release...... limited to hoh only?? anyone willing to help a brother out during the holiday season?
The thickness of the bag is what Matt and Eric found appropriate after all those tests and analyzes during the whole process. The 15mm zoom bag isdefinitely better against forces and surely feels much better. It would surely hold up a lot longer too and bigger guys will definitely appreciate itOriginally Posted by al3x89
So is the 15mm zoom going to make the shoe more durable and comfortable? Or what...
what's the advantage of having pretty much double of what the IV's have, cause the IV's are the comfiest shoes IMO.
Originally Posted by Gggggas
The thickness of the bag is what Matt and Eric found appropriate after all those tests and analyzes during the whole process. The 15mm zoom bag is definitely better against forces and surely feels much better. It would surely hold up a lot longer too and bigger guys will definitely appreciate itOriginally Posted by al3x89
So is the 15mm zoom going to make the shoe more durable and comfortable? Or what...
what's the advantage of having pretty much double of what the IV's have, cause the IV's are the comfiest shoes IMO.
What I really think is that the reason they put such a thick bag was just something they could do considering the fact that after all these tests they surely ended up with the proper height the shoe should have in order to be perfect against all kind of forces(check the high speed vid on one of the videos). Thus what they could do better was to bring the zoom closer to the ground. I know you are thinking about the bottom loaded zoom now but they couldn't do that for some reasonsSo they ended up putting the bag just on 3mm foam over the outsole rubberSo the height of the midsole is 18mm on the heel and 10mm on the forefoot(2mm of foam under the forefoot zoom bag).
The IV's midsole is thicker both on the heel and forefoot. They did all the tests on those too but they just didn't go after the limitsSo what they did was to put more foam and place the zoom bag at just 8mm under the surface of the heel foam as well as the lunar foam on the forefoot. There is plenty of foam under but since Kobe wanted a lighter shoe they just had to push the limitsIn fact, the results of the midsole process are for sure Kobe's request translated by those guys.
I think I covered you and please correct me if I'm wrong
Yet Kobes not only perform better but look better. If the best LBVII release available is the Red Carpets the LeBron line is going down inflames.Originally Posted by Mister Friendly
Originally Posted by Gggggas
The thickness of the bag is what Matt and Eric found appropriate after all those tests and analyzes during the whole process. The 15mm zoom bag is definitely better against forces and surely feels much better. It would surely hold up a lot longer too and bigger guys will definitely appreciate itOriginally Posted by al3x89
So is the 15mm zoom going to make the shoe more durable and comfortable? Or what...
what's the advantage of having pretty much double of what the IV's have, cause the IV's are the comfiest shoes IMO.
What I really think is that the reason they put such a thick bag was just something they could do considering the fact that after all these tests they surely ended up with the proper height the shoe should have in order to be perfect against all kind of forces(check the high speed vid on one of the videos). Thus what they could do better was to bring the zoom closer to the ground. I know you are thinking about the bottom loaded zoom now but they couldn't do that for some reasonsSo they ended up putting the bag just on 3mm foam over the outsole rubberSo the height of the midsole is 18mm on the heel and 10mm on the forefoot(2mm of foam under the forefoot zoom bag).
The IV's midsole is thicker both on the heel and forefoot. They did all the tests on those too but they just didn't go after the limitsSo what they did was to put more foam and place the zoom bag at just 8mm under the surface of the heel foam as well as the lunar foam on the forefoot. There is plenty of foam under but since Kobe wanted a lighter shoe they just had to push the limitsIn fact, the results of the midsole process are for sure Kobe's request translated by those guys.
I think I covered you and please correct me if I'm wrong
Yeah great answer. That definitely seems to make sense. This shoe has me super excited to actually play basketball in! Just the videos about the ZKVs. You can tell they really only care about performance as opposed to watching the LBJ VII videos it seems like they are more into style. Lebron says in the videos the first thing he cares about is how they look while Kobe cares about how they perform.
I guess it just depends on what you want them for. I want mine more for basketball but it doesnt hurt that they look good too.
Originally Posted by never wear them
if only Kobe started the season with the ZKVs......... smh... Many highlights already.... just found out Kobe hit another buzzard shot...
Originally Posted by gdiemaster
IMO, Heath Ledgers version of the Joker has nothing to do with the ZKV but more of the animated one.