OFFICIAL Ye fka "kanYe West" x G.O.O.D. Music Thread - ¥$ (AKA YE X TY DOLLA SIGN) - VULTURES 2 (NOW AVAILABLE sorta)

[trynafeelmink]

And there's nothing risky about heaven. Great don't, but far from risky.

Risky in what sense?.... because as a Global Icon, in a partnership with one of the biggest companies in the world the LAST thing you want to do is release a record that asks you to forget religion as you know it, claim yourself as a God, and push Black Roots Ideology in America's face.... there is a hell of a risk doing that when your talking about Jay-Z

 

[tay1]

Risky in what sense?.... because as a Global Icon, in a partnership with one of the biggest companies in the world the LAST thing you want to do is release a record that asks you to forget religion as you know it, claim yourself as a God, and push Black Roots Ideology in America's face.... there is a hell of a risk doing that when your talking about Jay-Z

It's not risky in anyway. I don't care what position he's in, people have been shi**ing on religion for the longest. Just because most rappers are too pu**y to rap about serious topics doesn't make it risky just because Jay did it. This ni**a received $5 million before the album even came out. That sh*it ain't risky. You know what would be risky? Performing that sh*t in a church. Let me know when that happens.

 

[nako xl]

Rav and tyisny I see what you're saying.

 

[trynafeelmink]

It's not risky in anyway. I don't care what position he's in, people have been shi**ing on religion for the longest

and yet none of them have been the face of the most controversial genre in music, while also being backed by a Billion dollar company.

Kanye interrupted a white girl and damn near got exiled by the media, making this song is absolutely Risky

 

[tay1]

and yet none of them have been the face of the most controversial genre in music, while also being backed by a Billion dollar company.

Kanye interrupted a white girl and damn near got exiled by the media, making this song is absolutely Risky

Ye has been an ******* before that. And if it's so risky, why does nobody give a fu*k about it?

 

[nako xl]

^ There's a difference though.  Jay is loved by all.  He can go dap up a communist leader and get a free pass.

People were waiting for another reason to hate Ye.  Just look at the 12-12-12 show.  A bunch of white bands go up there and play 1 or 2 songs and sprint off stage and they get praised for going out of their way to show up.

Kanye does a 35 minute set (for free), says nothing controversial, and asks people to pray for NY and NJ and twitter and facebook are lighting up with people calling him a conceited douchebag and yelling "Get off the stage kanye! This isn't about you!  You're so self absorbed!"

The Taylor Swift **** was obnoxious, but it would have taken way less than that for people to try to lynch him.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

The Black Skinhead video is nice to me. Simple, straight to the point. One of the 5 songs I like on the album.

 

[tay1]

and yet none of them have been the face of the most controversial genre in music, while also being backed by a Billion dollar company.

Kanye interrupted a white girl and damn near got exiled by the media, making this song is absolutely Risky

He was paid before the record came out. No risk involved. Calling himself Hova was risky when he first started doing it, this is not

 

[thunderchunk69]

It would take a lot to be risky in this day in age, and MCGH isn't that.

The only risky thing surrounding MCHG and Yeezus is that they dropped out of nowhere.  But when you have the stature of Jay and Ye, it can be done.

The tweets were from a PRODUCER
so I assume we're talking about production.

beats weren't like this 10 years ago.
also, the WHOLE inspiration for this album was the title track which was taken from "The Dream"
pretty sure rappers weren't looking to RnB singers for inspiration on rap albums 10 years ago, in 2003.

 

[ravagebx]

I actually kinda liked the Black Skinhead vid.

Here's my problem with Yeezus. I feel like Ye is more interested in being avantgarde than making good music. Look at it like this. You know how fashion designers will put out completely crazy isht on the runway b/c they want to be avantgarde and dictate what's fashionable, and experiment? That's what Ye is doing with his music right now. And the media will love it because they love the pretense. The pageantry of it. But for us regular folks who just like nice clothes, the isht looks completely ridiculous. That's how I feel about Yeezus. Not that I think we should be wearing tall tees still but this...





is not hiphop lol.

did you Read the article featuring some of the producers posted a few post back?

Your dead on with your response because that is EXACTLY what he was trying to do with this album.

From Producer Hudson Mohawke

There are a lot of amazing songs that were left off [Yeezus]-- stuff that you might consider to be more melodic or in-line with Kanye's previous material-- purely because they didn't necessarily fit this rough-edged, 90s-industrial-type vibe. A lot of the record is trying to avoid obviousness. Through the entire process of putting it together, there were tons of easy slam dunks, but rather than just going for the hits and having an album that nobody's going to give a **** about in a month or two, he intentionally sidestepped the obvious route each time. I think that's what going to give it more longevity and put it in a category of records that you'll go back to in 10 years time.

From Producer Mike Dean

On Watch the Throne, we were gonna use the hook of "We Are Young" before [Fun.] got it. [Watch the Throne producer Jeff Bhasker co-wrote/produced "We Are Young".]

These guys are absolutely trying to go against everything conventional even if they know that the song is great.

The funny thing about what Hudson Mohawke said is that they got the exact opposite effect imo. People care about College Dropout, Graduation, etc. years later. No one is going to give a f about Yeezus years from now.

 

[nako xl]

I think he wanted Yeezus to be his "Kid A".

In other genres it takes years and hindsight for people to recognize those albums.

Maybe this is his "Kid A" / "Trans" ?

Or maybe it was just a cool experiment with some dope beats, mediocre rap verses in a lot of places, and he'll release "Yeezus 2: The Hits" and everyone will forgive him.

 

[tay1]

The funny thing about what Hudson Mohawke said is that they got the exact opposite effect imo. People care about College Dropout, Graduation, etc. years later. No one is going to give a f about Yeezus years from now.

You know that how?

 

[ravagebx]

The funny thing about what Hudson Mohawke said is that they got the exact opposite effect imo. People care about College Dropout, Graduation, etc. years later. No one is going to give a f about Yeezus years from now.

You know that how?

Lemme help you out.

 

[tay1]

Or maybe it was just a cool experiment with some dope beats, mediocre rap verses in a lot of places, and he'll release "Yeezus 2: The Hits" and everyone will forgive him.

That's exactly what it is. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy was barely released three years ago, and people are acting like this is the end of him or somethin

 

[Magic33]

It's not risky in anyway. I don't care what position he's in, people have been shi**ing on religion for the longest. Just because most rappers are too pu**y to rap about serious topics doesn't make it risky just because Jay did it. This ni**a received $5 million before the album even came out. That sh*it ain't risky. You know what would be risky? Performing that sh*t in a church. Let me know when that happens.

Name a rapper that has spit 5% ideology over the past 20 years, much less while being mainstream.

The reason none of you think it's risky, is because you don't know what the hell he's talking about or what any of it means.

He was paid before the record came out. No risk involved. Calling himself Hova was risky when he first started doing it, this is not

How many corporate sponsors does he have and now he's an agent.

 

[nako xl]

I think a comparison to make (even though RnB albums dont have the longevity of a lot of other genres) is that Usher album about a ecade ago that was super commercial and hit after hit after hit.  I don't remember how many records it sold but in my mind it was something like 10x platinum.

And aside from a Kendrick Lamar reference last year, I don't hear anyone talk about it.  It's still a great record, it's just forgotten.

I think what Kanye's trying to do hear is cook up controversy, because the same way we still talk about albums like "Kid A" etc. even though they're not Radiohead's best works, they're still good albums and discussed because of the fan backlash that essentially is "these dudes lost their minds".  One way or the other he wants this album remembered.

 

[tay1]

Name a rapper that has spit 5% ideology over the past 20 years, much less while being mainstream.

The reason none of you think it's risky, is because you don't know what the hell he's talking about or what any of it means.
How many corporate sponsors does he have and now he's an agent.

I don't know what it means? Okay, glad you know that. I can see that you think that song is just this revolutionary thing, so I'm gonna leave it alone

 

[trynafeelmink]

I think a comparison to make (even though RnB albums dont have the longevity of a lot of other genres) is that Usher album about a ecade ago that was super commercial and hit after hit after hit.  I don't remember how many records it sold but in my mind it was something like 10x platinum.

And aside from a Kendrick Lamar reference last year, I don't hear anyone talk about it.  It's still a great record, it's just forgotten.

I think what Kanye's trying to do hear is cook up controversy, because the same way we still talk about albums like "Kid A" etc. even though they're not Radiohead's best works, they're still good albums and discussed because of the critical backlash that essentially is "these dudes lost their minds"

If your talking about confessions I can't agree, I ain't even a big R&B fan and i still listen to that record and anytime i hear someone talk about R&B over the past decade that album is bought up.

and as far as having that WTF moment i think we would all agree that 808's was that experimental album (And i personally Loved it). That album is one where his fans either LOVED OR HATED, it's a polarizing album that will always be a discussion piece so i would hope he didn't make this album just to have that.

i like this album a bit but imo it's his weakest release not trash but not great either.

 

[Magic33]

I think a comparison to make (even though RnB albums dont have the longevity of a lot of other genres) is that Usher album about a ecade ago that was super commercial and hit after hit after hit.  I don't remember how many records it sold but in my mind it was something like 10x platinum.

And aside from a Kendrick Lamar reference last year, I don't hear anyone talk about it.  It's still a great record, it's just forgotten.

I think what Kanye's trying to do hear is cook up controversy, because the same way we still talk about albums like "Kid A" etc. even though they're not Radiohead's best works, they're still good albums and discussed because of the fan backlash that essentially is "these dudes lost their minds".  One way or the other he wants this album remembered.

There isn't any controversy though. I don't really hear any people talk about his album. It's not good enough to be controversial.

If you don't like it, you don't like it. Most people I know listened to it once or twice and don't want to listen to it again. Me, I gave it a chance. I'll probably pick it back up later.

It's a good looking cake, that taste mediocre. After eating it, you don't really care about how it looked. It's how it taste that matters. And the bad songs overshadow the good ones, because the good ones, only makes you realize what he is capable of.

How many people say 808's grew on them? Most people say they don't like it and have it as their least favorite Kanye CD.

 

[meek meals]

From Producer Mike Dean

On Watch the Throne, we were gonna use the hook of "We Are Young" before [Fun.] got it. [Watch the Throne producer Jeff Bhasker co-wrote/produced "We Are Young".]

These guys are absolutely trying to go against everything conventional even if they know that the song is great.

These dudes are idiots, that song was huge . . . Cudi would have killed that

 

[gllahone84]

Wack album...wack video..now what?

 

[the hater boxden]

Wack album...wack video..now what?

wack tour

 

[tay1]

These dudes are idiots, that song was huge . . . Cudi would have killed that

It'll sound totally different and wack with Cudi singing that. I think FUN was the right choice.

 

[krazyrodzilla]

Upon its release Yeezus received rave reviews from music critics. At Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from critics, the album received an average score of 85, which indicates "universal acclaim", based on 41 reviews.

Upon its release Magna Carta... Holy Grail received mixed to positive reviews from music critics. At Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from critics, the album received an average score of 62, based on 16 reviews, which indicates "generally favorable reviews."

 

[tay1]

Upon its release Yeezus received rave reviews from music critics. At Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from critics, the album received an average score of 85, which indicates "universal acclaim", based on 41 reviews.

Upon its release Magna Carta... Holy Grail received mixed to positive reviews from music critics. At Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from critics, the album received an average score of 62, based on 16 reviews, which indicates "generally favorable reviews."

a lot of angry responses are incoming