Official Victor Ortiz vs Mayweather 9/17/11

[alleniversonfan01]

Originally Posted by piNoy805jAys

Originally Posted by goldenchild9

Originally Posted by piNoy805jAys

all you mayweather fans act like theres a big list of fighters manny fought after he already did. probably cant even name the fighters

Hatton
Mosley

DeLa Hoya

Marquez

 That what you call sloppy seconds.

let me school you son. yeah he fought hatton, mosley and de la hoya after mayweather did. marquez? pac fought marquez twice before floyd did. once in may of 04 and another in march of 08.

lets see who pac fought who mayweather hasn't that probably was ducking.
-margarito
-clottey
-cotto
-diaz
-barrera twice
-morrales twice
now sit down son and do some homework before replying.

O so now we have resorted to just naming people the other person hasnt fought and calling it ducking? OK. carry on.


And Clotty? Cmon son. you cant even be serious putting him in any list. He isnt even close to the league of May and Pac. Yet people still wanted to act like that was a "good fight" for Pacquio to take.

 

[rolaholic]

Originally Posted by AllenIversonFan01

Originally Posted by letsgetit22

Originally Posted by goldenchild9


Hatton
Mosley

DeLa Hoya

Marquez

 That what you call sloppy seconds.

He thought he shut the thread down

But props for the gifs

Should have been all that was needed to discredit anything he said. And its always a "good fight" when Manny take it. But when Floyd takes fights hes "scared to fight a real opponent". And just like he said in the post fight interview, when Pac finally mans up and does what he needs to do to book the fight, if Money wins people gonna say he waited till Pac was ready to hang em up.

The reality is any fight Mayweather fights is a lose lose in the haters eyes.

All of this QFT

 

[rolaholic]

Originally Posted by AllenIversonFan01

Originally Posted by letsgetit22

Originally Posted by goldenchild9


Hatton
Mosley

DeLa Hoya

Marquez

 That what you call sloppy seconds.

He thought he shut the thread down

But props for the gifs

Should have been all that was needed to discredit anything he said. And its always a "good fight" when Manny take it. But when Floyd takes fights hes "scared to fight a real opponent". And just like he said in the post fight interview, when Pac finally mans up and does what he needs to do to book the fight, if Money wins people gonna say he waited till Pac was ready to hang em up.

The reality is any fight Mayweather fights is a lose lose in the haters eyes.

All of this QFT

 

[el producto79]

Did homie just include David Diaz in a list of people that Floyd possibly ducked? lawdhamercy

 

[el producto79]

Did homie just include David Diaz in a list of people that Floyd possibly ducked? lawdhamercy

 

[DownByLaw]

You have a better chance @ beating Jesus in a b-boy battle than getting a Mayweather fan to admit Floyd's ever ducked anyone.

 

[DownByLaw]

You have a better chance @ beating Jesus in a b-boy battle than getting a Mayweather fan to admit Floyd's ever ducked anyone.

 

[pinoy805jays]

Originally Posted by AllenIversonFan01

Originally Posted by piNoy805jAys

Originally Posted by goldenchild9


Hatton
Mosley

DeLa Hoya

Marquez

 That what you call sloppy seconds.

let me school you son. yeah he fought hatton, mosley and de la hoya after mayweather did. marquez? pac fought marquez twice before floyd did. once in may of 04 and another in march of 08.

lets see who pac fought who mayweather hasn't that probably was ducking.
-margarito
-clottey
-cotto
-diaz
-barrera twice
-morrales twice
now sit down son and do some homework before replying.

O so now we have resorted to just naming people the other person hasnt fought and calling it ducking? OK. carry on.


And Clotty? Cmon son. you cant even be serious putting him in any list. He isnt even close to the league of May and Pac. Yet people still wanted to act like that was a "good fight" for Pacquio to take.

so what you only follow "big name" boxers? dude has a good record but you're going to bash him because you dont "follow" him or because he aint a big name. all his losses were to good fighters. dont judge a boxer cause you dont watch his fights

 

[pinoy805jays]

Originally Posted by AllenIversonFan01

Originally Posted by piNoy805jAys

Originally Posted by goldenchild9


Hatton
Mosley

DeLa Hoya

Marquez

 That what you call sloppy seconds.

let me school you son. yeah he fought hatton, mosley and de la hoya after mayweather did. marquez? pac fought marquez twice before floyd did. once in may of 04 and another in march of 08.

lets see who pac fought who mayweather hasn't that probably was ducking.
-margarito
-clottey
-cotto
-diaz
-barrera twice
-morrales twice
now sit down son and do some homework before replying.

O so now we have resorted to just naming people the other person hasnt fought and calling it ducking? OK. carry on.


And Clotty? Cmon son. you cant even be serious putting him in any list. He isnt even close to the league of May and Pac. Yet people still wanted to act like that was a "good fight" for Pacquio to take.

so what you only follow "big name" boxers? dude has a good record but you're going to bash him because you dont "follow" him or because he aint a big name. all his losses were to good fighters. dont judge a boxer cause you dont watch his fights

 

[swagger2much4you]

[h1]Proof the Floyd Mayweather vs Victor Ortiz fight was fixed?[/h1]
1. Ortiz headbutts Mayweather twice. First was hard to notice but if you rewind you will see. Second one was the one they agreed to work with because it was more noticeable.
2. The referees looks away from the fighters for way too long. It's as if he is protecting himself so if in the future he were to ever get questioned, he can simply say I was not looking. Any boxing referee knows that you keep your eye on the fighters at all times.
3. Ortiz's post fight attitude. He was HAPPY! For someone who had so much riding on the fight, that attitude simply did not match one of a fighter who just did the most regrettable thing in his life.
4. Mayweathers mention of a rematch (another cash cow for both).
5. How Ortiz overdid the hugging. Ok he did it once, cool, but it seems like he kept on doing it so as to allow Floyd to continue with the preplan of sucker punching him.

Ok now lets analyze this big fix from another angle. Think to yourselves, what is the best way to fix the fight so as to allow both fighters to retain their dignity while allowing for a rematch and a lot of media hype. The answer is exactly what you saw unfold before your eyes. Keep watching the fight on youtube with all of this in mind and I'll promise you that you will see the truth. Nothing is real anymore in this world. From 'reality' shows to big sport matches, they are all businesses with investors and money at stake. Profits are the only thing that matter not an athletes dignity. Please feel free to add your thoughts to this and/or dispute anything you feel may be incorrect

I would also like to add how when Ortiz got sucker punched the first time he simply stood there waiting for the second punch. A person that has trained non-stop for the past god knows how long is prepared to react in an instant. At least move or put your arm up to defend your face, but no Ortiz simply stood there and took the hit. ALSO, if you watch past Ortiz fights, he NEVER headbutts! Fighters that headbutt are usually serial headbutters, as in its a move they constantly do. This was basically Ortiz's first ever headbutt. Which brings me back to the fact that a headbutt is the ONLY act that would warrant such a reaction like hugging and apologizing further allowing the opportunity to be sucker punched while being 'unaware.'

 

[swagger2much4you]

[h1]Proof the Floyd Mayweather vs Victor Ortiz fight was fixed?[/h1]
1. Ortiz headbutts Mayweather twice. First was hard to notice but if you rewind you will see. Second one was the one they agreed to work with because it was more noticeable.
2. The referees looks away from the fighters for way too long. It's as if he is protecting himself so if in the future he were to ever get questioned, he can simply say I was not looking. Any boxing referee knows that you keep your eye on the fighters at all times.
3. Ortiz's post fight attitude. He was HAPPY! For someone who had so much riding on the fight, that attitude simply did not match one of a fighter who just did the most regrettable thing in his life.
4. Mayweathers mention of a rematch (another cash cow for both).
5. How Ortiz overdid the hugging. Ok he did it once, cool, but it seems like he kept on doing it so as to allow Floyd to continue with the preplan of sucker punching him.

Ok now lets analyze this big fix from another angle. Think to yourselves, what is the best way to fix the fight so as to allow both fighters to retain their dignity while allowing for a rematch and a lot of media hype. The answer is exactly what you saw unfold before your eyes. Keep watching the fight on youtube with all of this in mind and I'll promise you that you will see the truth. Nothing is real anymore in this world. From 'reality' shows to big sport matches, they are all businesses with investors and money at stake. Profits are the only thing that matter not an athletes dignity. Please feel free to add your thoughts to this and/or dispute anything you feel may be incorrect

I would also like to add how when Ortiz got sucker punched the first time he simply stood there waiting for the second punch. A person that has trained non-stop for the past god knows how long is prepared to react in an instant. At least move or put your arm up to defend your face, but no Ortiz simply stood there and took the hit. ALSO, if you watch past Ortiz fights, he NEVER headbutts! Fighters that headbutt are usually serial headbutters, as in its a move they constantly do. This was basically Ortiz's first ever headbutt. Which brings me back to the fact that a headbutt is the ONLY act that would warrant such a reaction like hugging and apologizing further allowing the opportunity to be sucker punched while being 'unaware.'

 

[goldenchild9]

Originally Posted by piNoy805jAys

Originally Posted by goldenchild9

Originally Posted by piNoy805jAys

all you mayweather fans act like theres a big list of fighters manny fought after he already did. probably cant even name the fighters

Hatton
Mosley

DeLa Hoya

Marquez

 That what you call sloppy seconds.

let me school you son. yeah he fought hatton, mosley and de la hoya after mayweather did. marquez? pac fought marquez twice before floyd did. once in may of 04 and another in march of 08.

lets see who pac fought who mayweather hasn't that probably was ducking.
-margarito
-clottey
-cotto
-diaz
-barrera twice
-morrales twice
now sit down son and do some homework before replying.

Everyone knows that Marquez and Pacquiao fought twice before...but we also know the outcome of those fights.

 



Marquez has been calling out Pacquiao for the rematch, since the conclusion of their controversial second fight....Pacquiao ducked him for years. Now that Floyd has ran through him, father time took his toll and Marquez's body has been weakened by jumping up and down in weight, Pac makes the fight.

As soon as Marquez called out Floyd after his victory over Juan Diaz, Mayweather made the fight.

 

[goldenchild9]

Originally Posted by piNoy805jAys

Originally Posted by goldenchild9

Originally Posted by piNoy805jAys

all you mayweather fans act like theres a big list of fighters manny fought after he already did. probably cant even name the fighters

Hatton
Mosley

DeLa Hoya

Marquez

 That what you call sloppy seconds.

let me school you son. yeah he fought hatton, mosley and de la hoya after mayweather did. marquez? pac fought marquez twice before floyd did. once in may of 04 and another in march of 08.

lets see who pac fought who mayweather hasn't that probably was ducking.
-margarito
-clottey
-cotto
-diaz
-barrera twice
-morrales twice
now sit down son and do some homework before replying.

Everyone knows that Marquez and Pacquiao fought twice before...but we also know the outcome of those fights.

 



Marquez has been calling out Pacquiao for the rematch, since the conclusion of their controversial second fight....Pacquiao ducked him for years. Now that Floyd has ran through him, father time took his toll and Marquez's body has been weakened by jumping up and down in weight, Pac makes the fight.

As soon as Marquez called out Floyd after his victory over Juan Diaz, Mayweather made the fight.

 

[pinoy805jays]

Originally Posted by goldenchild9

Originally Posted by piNoy805jAys

Originally Posted by goldenchild9


Hatton
Mosley

DeLa Hoya

Marquez

 That what you call sloppy seconds.

let me school you son. yeah he fought hatton, mosley and de la hoya after mayweather did. marquez? pac fought marquez twice before floyd did. once in may of 04 and another in march of 08.

lets see who pac fought who mayweather hasn't that probably was ducking.
-margarito
-clottey
-cotto
-diaz
-barrera twice
-morrales twice
now sit down son and do some homework before replying.

Everyone knows that Marquez and Pacquiao fought twice before...but we also know the outcome of those fights.

 



Marquez has been calling out Pacquiao for the rematch, since the conclusion of their controversial second fight....Pacquiao ducked him for years. Now that Floyd has ran through him, father time took his toll and Marquez's body has been weakened by jumping up and down in weight, Pac makes the fight.

As soon as Marquez called out Floyd after his victory over Juan Diaz, Mayweather made the fight.

whats those pictures prove? that going in a fight you eventually gets bumps and cuts yeah. first fight they had it was a draw when pac knocked down marquez 3 times in the first round. second fight pac won by decision. you can post all the pics you want on how messed up pacs face is but the outcome is still what it is. you act like pac only wants to fight him now because floyd "ran through him". did u just not read pac fought marquez first twice before mayweather even did? pac and marquez 2nd match was at 129lbs. the next six fights were at 135-140 lbs except the mayweather fight which was at 146lbs. so dont use jumping up and down in weight an excuse

 

[pinoy805jays]

Originally Posted by goldenchild9

Originally Posted by piNoy805jAys

Originally Posted by goldenchild9


Hatton
Mosley

DeLa Hoya

Marquez

 That what you call sloppy seconds.

let me school you son. yeah he fought hatton, mosley and de la hoya after mayweather did. marquez? pac fought marquez twice before floyd did. once in may of 04 and another in march of 08.

lets see who pac fought who mayweather hasn't that probably was ducking.
-margarito
-clottey
-cotto
-diaz
-barrera twice
-morrales twice
now sit down son and do some homework before replying.

Everyone knows that Marquez and Pacquiao fought twice before...but we also know the outcome of those fights.

 



Marquez has been calling out Pacquiao for the rematch, since the conclusion of their controversial second fight....Pacquiao ducked him for years. Now that Floyd has ran through him, father time took his toll and Marquez's body has been weakened by jumping up and down in weight, Pac makes the fight.

As soon as Marquez called out Floyd after his victory over Juan Diaz, Mayweather made the fight.

whats those pictures prove? that going in a fight you eventually gets bumps and cuts yeah. first fight they had it was a draw when pac knocked down marquez 3 times in the first round. second fight pac won by decision. you can post all the pics you want on how messed up pacs face is but the outcome is still what it is. you act like pac only wants to fight him now because floyd "ran through him". did u just not read pac fought marquez first twice before mayweather even did? pac and marquez 2nd match was at 129lbs. the next six fights were at 135-140 lbs except the mayweather fight which was at 146lbs. so dont use jumping up and down in weight an excuse

 

[Sir San Diego]

Originally Posted by Swagger2Much4You

YOU WANT TO BELIEVE...

 

[Sir San Diego]

Originally Posted by Swagger2Much4You

YOU WANT TO BELIEVE...

 

[illphillip]

Originally Posted by RetroSan


they may not be "legal" but those elbows are serious  

Serious though? The first one rolls on top of Ortiz's right shoulder. I can't quite tell where the 2nd lands. Somewhere between the shoulder/chest and the neck it seems. Maybe get got some chin. But Ortiz never says anything.

You're getting crowded by a big fighter. I actually give Floyd props because people think of him as a dancer, and look at him in the clip. Getting crowded by a younger, possibly physically stronger fighter, and he just stays in the pocket, blocks everything and returns fire.

Dude is fighting in a phone booth.

Those elbows don't even bother me much. They looked more like space makers than vicious shots that did any damage.

 

[illphillip]

Originally Posted by RetroSan


they may not be "legal" but those elbows are serious  

Serious though? The first one rolls on top of Ortiz's right shoulder. I can't quite tell where the 2nd lands. Somewhere between the shoulder/chest and the neck it seems. Maybe get got some chin. But Ortiz never says anything.

You're getting crowded by a big fighter. I actually give Floyd props because people think of him as a dancer, and look at him in the clip. Getting crowded by a younger, possibly physically stronger fighter, and he just stays in the pocket, blocks everything and returns fire.

Dude is fighting in a phone booth.

Those elbows don't even bother me much. They looked more like space makers than vicious shots that did any damage.

 

[mycoldyourdone]

Originally Posted by AllenIversonFan01

Originally Posted by letsgetit22

Originally Posted by goldenchild9


Hatton
Mosley

DeLa Hoya

Marquez

 That what you call sloppy seconds.

He thought he shut the thread down

But props for the gifs

Should have been all that was needed to discredit anything he said. 

das racist

trolol

 

[mycoldyourdone]

Originally Posted by AllenIversonFan01

Originally Posted by letsgetit22

Originally Posted by goldenchild9


Hatton
Mosley

DeLa Hoya

Marquez

 That what you call sloppy seconds.

He thought he shut the thread down

But props for the gifs

Should have been all that was needed to discredit anything he said. 

das racist

trolol

 

[thapointguy]

"If a man makes 40 million for knocking someone out when he's not paying attention we can't call it a cheap shot."

Saw this tweet on twitter.

 

[thapointguy]

"If a man makes 40 million for knocking someone out when he's not paying attention we can't call it a cheap shot."

Saw this tweet on twitter.

 

[tim teufel]

mayweather hasnt fought any top rated contender in his weight class that was worthy of anything.look who manny has fought at their prime antonio margarito,david diaz,miguel cotto,joshua clottey,erik morales in his prime,barrera in his prime. who the hell has mayweather faced in their prime? besides victor ortiz and we saw what he needed to do to win that fight 

 may is a fraud. may fought arturo gatti 

 washed up zab judah,notice he avoided morales and barrera while they were in their prime 

 this dude tap dances around real competition to face washed up fighters 

 

[tim teufel]

mayweather hasnt fought any top rated contender in his weight class that was worthy of anything.look who manny has fought at their prime antonio margarito,david diaz,miguel cotto,joshua clottey,erik morales in his prime,barrera in his prime. who the hell has mayweather faced in their prime? besides victor ortiz and we saw what he needed to do to win that fight 

 may is a fraud. may fought arturo gatti 

 washed up zab judah,notice he avoided morales and barrera while they were in their prime 

 this dude tap dances around real competition to face washed up fighters